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Sarn 01-18-2017 09:34 AM

Joe Biden criticises Russia
 
the light turned off :1orglaugh

crockett 01-18-2017 10:01 AM


H-Tom 01-18-2017 10:10 AM

what a fucking idiot. usa has attacked ukraine. i'm glad that after 4 days this fool will be gone.

just a punk 01-18-2017 10:19 AM

The president of the Ukraine:

http://rada.gov.ua/images/baydendep1.jpg

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21462079)

He just went to the Dark Side.

PR_Glen 01-18-2017 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by H-Tom (Post 21462175)
what a fucking idiot. usa has attacked ukraine. i'm glad that after 4 days this fool will be gone.

when did that happen?

just a punk 01-18-2017 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 21462346)
when did that happen?

Have you been banned by Google? The search function doesn't work for you anymore?

The United States spent $5 billion on Ukraine anti-government riots | PunditFact
Ukraine: Did Uncle Sam buy off the Maidan? |ÂhaZEIT ONLINE
The Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity : Victoria Nuland's 'Ukraine-gate' Deceptions
and a billion of similar articles on the topic and the sources are not RT.com...



Victoria Nuland (known as "fuck the EU" bitch) has confirmed the USA have spent 5 fuckin' billion dollars (taken from the clueless US taxpayer pockets of course) to initiate the coup on the Ukraine. The US taxpayers have paid for every single drop of the Ukrainian blood. Do you understand that? Please don't tell me that's a news for you. The Internet is not forbidden in your country... I hope.

You know that I'm not a Putin's fan but you won't dispute the fact that the Russian army has annexed Crimea w/o a single death:





Was the US Army able to do something similar? Never. Man, it has happened just about... never. The only thing you can do is to bomb, burn and rape the civilians. Sad but true.

Have something to say? Go on, it's a free board!

Bladewire 01-18-2017 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21462367)

From your own link :1orglaugh


Since 1992, the government has spent about $5.1 billion to support democracy-building programs in Ukraine, Thompson said, with money flowing mostly from the Department of State via U.S. Agency for International Development, as well as the departments of Defense, Energy, Agriculture and others. The United States does this with hundreds of other countries.

Sarn 01-18-2017 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 21462346)
when did that happen?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh really!
https://www.kyivpost.com/wp-content/...and-troops.jpg

crockett 01-18-2017 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21462367)
Have you been banned by Google? The search function doesn't work for you anymore?

The United States spent $5 billion on Ukraine anti-government riots | PunditFact
Ukraine: Did Uncle Sam buy off the Maidan? |ÂhaZEIT ONLINE
The Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity : Victoria Nuland's 'Ukraine-gate' Deceptions
and a billion of similar articles on the topic and the sources are not RT.com...



Victoria Nuland (known as "fuck the EU" bitch) has confirmed the USA have spent 5 fuckin' billion dollars (taken from the clueless US taxpayer pockets of course) to initiate the coup on the Ukraine. The US taxpayers have paid for every single drop of the Ukrainian blood. Do you understand that? Please don't tell me that's a news for you. The Internet is not forbidden in your country... I hope.

You know that I'm not a Putin's fan but you won't dispute that the Russian army has annexed Crimea w/o a single death:



Was the US Army able to do something similar? Never. Man, it has happened just about... never. The only thing you can do is to bomb, burn and rape the civilians. Sad but true.

Have something to say?

There was at least 6 deaths during the Crimea take over..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexa...ian_Federation


1 Crimean SDF trooper killed
2 soldiers killed
3 protesters died (2 pro-Russian and 1 pro-Ukrainian)

but lets be realistic here and you know as well as I that Russia couldn't have annexed Crimea with out the fighting in other parts of Ukraine. There were shitloads of deaths in Ukraine lots of civilians and a fucking airliner shot down by Russian backed rebels.. Not exactly death free coup..

just a punk 01-18-2017 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 21462496)
There was at least 6 deaths during the Crimea take over..

I beat at least 100 have died of diarrhea, HIV, gonorrhea, constipation, drunk subbing, hear attacks and vodka poisons during the annexation, but these cases have no relation to the military operation of the Russian Army. So please don't post your bullshit anymore. I know about two deaths only. One Russian and one Ukrainian solider have killed each other because of some conflict. They haven't follow the commands of their officers, it was their own personal conflict - not a result of military operation. Two idiots with guns have decided to find out whose dick is bigger. Man, that's not a military lose.

You are quoting wirkpedia? Go quote the article about the My Lai Massacre when the US soldiers have raped and killed even babies. You call these guys heroes, don't you?

2MuchMark 01-18-2017 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by H-Tom (Post 21462175)
what a fucking idiot. usa has attacked ukraine. i'm glad that after 4 days this fool will be gone.

Yeah, his replacement is a real winner.

crockett 01-18-2017 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21462526)
I beat at least 100 have died of diarrhea HIV, gonorrhea, constipation, drunk subbing, hear attacks and vodka poisons during the annexation, but these cases have no relation to the military operation of the Russian Army. So please don't post your bullshit anymore.

Don't try to lie.. I even linked you the source..

Ukraine crisis: Pro-Russian troops storm naval base as Clinton warns of 'aggression' from Putin | The Independent

Russian marine kills Ukraine navy officer in Crimea, says ministry | Reuters

Gunmen seize government buildings in Ukraine's Crimea region, fly Russian flags; 2 dead - UPI.com

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just a punk 01-18-2017 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 21462544)
Don't try to lie..

In contrast to you, I don't.

Sarn 01-18-2017 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 21462496)
There was at least 6 deaths during the Crimea take over..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexa...ian_Federation


1 Crimean SDF trooper killed
2 soldiers killed
3 protesters died (2 pro-Russian and 1 pro-Ukrainian)

but lets be realistic here and you know as well as I that Russia couldn't have annexed Crimea with out the fighting in other parts of Ukraine. There were shitloads of deaths in Ukraine lots of civilians and a fucking airliner shot down by Russian backed rebels.. Not exactly death free coup..

Ukraine for USA games was red line!

Bladewire 01-18-2017 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21462565)
Ukraine for USA games was red line!

What do you mean?

just a punk 01-18-2017 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21462565)
Ukraine for USA games was red line!

The Ukrainians were just puppets for Uncle Sam. I've already posted this image: http://rada.gov.ua/images/baydendep1.jpg

5 billion dollars is nothing for the US taxpayers, especially if nobody asks them if they are ready to pay it "for the fun". After that they are proud of their GDP. Course your GDP is high when your government is wasting your taxes for shit worldwide :2 cents:

crockett 01-18-2017 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21462565)
Ukraine for USA games was red line!

I bet it's all USA's fault in Serbia & Kosovo as well... That's obviously about to boil over.. and of course Russia dindu nuttins..

Sarn 01-18-2017 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21462577)
What do you mean?

Europe it not place for make profit on blood. We rise damages.

Bladewire 01-18-2017 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21462580)
The Ukrainians were just puppets for Uncle Sam. I've already posted this image: http://rada.gov.ua/images/baydendep1.jpg

5 billion dollars is nothing for the US taxpayers, especially if nobody asks them if they are ready to pay it "for the Ukrainian fun". After that they are proud of their GDP. Course the GDP is high when your government is spending your taxes to shit worldwide :2 cents:

Ukraine came to us and asked for help. We didn't stick our nose in their business. They came to us and said Putin & CyberSEO have dicks that are too big for us we want to stay Ukraine.

Disintegration of the Soviet Union and the U.S. Position on the Independence of Ukraine.

Ukrainian president asks U.S. Congress for help - NY Daily News

pimpmaster9000 01-18-2017 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21462367)
Have you been banned by Google? The search function doesn't work for you anymore?

The United States spent $5 billion on Ukraine anti-government riots | PunditFact
Ukraine: Did Uncle Sam buy off the Maidan? |ÂhaZEIT ONLINE
The Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity : Victoria Nuland's 'Ukraine-gate' Deceptions
and a billion of similar articles on the topic and the sources are not RT.com...

the USA would never do anything like that noooooooooo :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh where do you get these ideas? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-st...1225566-37.jpg

just a punk 01-18-2017 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21462601)
Ukraine came to us and asked for help. We didn't stick our nose in their business.

Of course not. You've just paid 5 billion dollars for the coup there. Just like with Georgia in 2008. You've paid for their military training, provided them with weapons, promised help... man your officers have leaded the Georgian military units... But in case of a real military conflict you just disappear and your "friends" had the only opinion to do this:



On a serious note. His army was trained by Americans. It was equipped by American weapon. It was commanded by Americans. What kind of help he's got form the USA when his army was involved into a war with Russia?

Bladewire 01-18-2017 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21462631)
Of course not. It was just like with Georgia. You pay for their military training, provide them with weapons, promise help, but in can of a real military conflict you just disappear and your
"friends" have the only opinion to do this:

On a serious note, His army was trained by Americans. It was equipped by American weapon. It was commanded by Americans. What kind of help he's got form the USA when his army was involved into a real military conflict with Russia?

Apparently Obama wasn't strong on military maybe Trump will be strong, but when it cums to Putin he rolls on his tummy and puts his butt in the air so who knows what will happen.

You can't blame Ukraine & Georgia for wanting away.

just a punk 01-18-2017 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21462637)
Apparently Obama wasn't strong on military

In case of so-called 5-day war with Georgia it was Bush Jr.

Sarn 01-18-2017 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21462637)
You can't blame Ukraine & Georgia for wanting away.

who gave them independence? it was we! But not for USA blood games and not for put NATO military against us over there. If it is not executed, they will lose their independence. For us, our National Security is more important.

Bladewire 01-18-2017 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21462697)
who gave them independence? it was we! But not for USA blood games and not for put NATO military against us over there. If it is not executed, they will lose their independence. For us, our National Security is more important.

Why do you give them freedom then take it back?

just a punk 01-18-2017 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21462721)
Why do you give them freedom then take it back?

Un??? Who gave a freedom to Ukraine a Georgia and who has taken it back? Who is sitting in the chair of the Ukrainian president on the picture above? Which country pays the salary to the Georgian officials? Please explain.

Bladewire 01-18-2017 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21462739)
Un??? Who gave a freedom to Ukraine a Georgia and who has taken it back? Who is sitting in the chair of the Ukrainian president on the picture above? Which country pays the salary to the Georgian officials? Please explain.

It looks like Putin is stealing back Ukraine & Georgia almost like Crimea but not as forcefully. . . yet

Like he's pulling strings before pulling gun.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 01-18-2017 01:48 PM

Joe Biden is a cuck

Putin is a real man

Sarn 01-18-2017 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21462721)
Why do you give them freedom then take it back?

We not take they freedom. When he want. they stay independent - it was 23 years ago.
But when the United States overthrew democratically elected President and the McCain participates in the civil war in the Ukraine - it is not independent. We not allowed this near our borders.

just a punk 01-18-2017 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21462811)
It looks like Putin is stealing back Ukraine & Georgia almost like Crimea but not as forcefully.

It's like you are watching some propaganda news and don't understand what happens around. If Putin wanted to take Georgia back, he could do it 2008. Their US-trained army was totally destroyed and it was unable to resist. Putin has needed a few hours to take over the Georgian capital and execute their president, but he didn't that.



The US-trained Georgian army retirement (speaking Georgian):



The same was in the Ukraine (Russian Army storms the Ukrainian military base):



If Russians wanted to conquer them, they would do it just easily. The questions are what for and who will feed them?

Bladewire 01-18-2017 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21462886)
It's like you are watching some propaganda news and don't understand what happens around. If Putin wanted to take Georgia back, he could do it 2008. Their US-trained army was totally destroyed and it was unable to resist. Putin has needed hour to take over the Georgian capital and execute their president, but he didn't that.

The Georgian army retirement:


The same was in the Ukraine (Russian Army storms the Ukrainian military base):

If Russians wanted to conquer them, they would do it just easily. The questions are what for and who will feed them?

He's created a frozen conflict with them all to cause instability and stop growth & solid government from forming. This explains it very well, very clear: Putin’s Frozen Conflicts | Foreign Policy

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 01-18-2017 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21462922)
He's created a frozen conflict with them all to cause instability and stop growth & solid government from forming. This explains it very well, very clear: Putin?s Frozen Conflicts | Foreign Policy

lol oh yea I believe that

just a punk 01-18-2017 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21462922)
He's created a frozen conflict with them

You're kidding now, right? :winkwink:

Sarn 01-18-2017 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21462922)
He's created a frozen conflict with them all to cause instability and stop growth & solid government from forming. This explains it very well, very clear: Putin’s Frozen Conflicts | Foreign Policy

But not putin was president when it happened (in Georgia) :1orglaugh

klinton 01-18-2017 02:33 PM

lol @ US attacking Ukraine...you have to be really retarded to think like that...or being power greedy exKGB (Putin and his chronies) that sees conspiracies everywhere and foreign influencies

what happened IMO was the will of Ukrainians (well, HALF of them) to search for better life without corruption, better salaries, blablabla...What they got so far instead is even worse struggle than they had before....
Reasons ? many...foreign manipulations can be just one of them, not most important

klinton 01-18-2017 02:38 PM

its a little more complicated then that...what if "democratically elected" president turns his back on his citizens? Do nation have right to overthrow him ? I guess so...
when they will overthrow Poroshenko ? you never know...
were they naive with EU deal ? yes they were....
there are like milions of Ukrainians already in EU....later there will robots probably :-P
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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21462847)
But when the United States overthrew democratically elected President and the McCain participates in the civil war in the Ukraine - it is not independent. We not allowed this near our borders.


Sarn 01-18-2017 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21463033)
lol @ US attacking Ukraine...you have to be really retarded to think like that...or being power greedy exKGB that sees conspiracies everywhere and foreign influencies

what happened IMO was the will of Ukrainians (well, HALF of them) to search for better life without corruption, better salaries, blablabla...What they got so far instead is even worse struggle than they had before....
Reasons ? many...foreign manipulations can be just one of them, not most important

But why they not make reform now? 3 years gone. salary down, corrupt rise etc..
but Mccain make funny selfie for trolling Putin

klinton 01-18-2017 02:44 PM

because you cant make gold from water and its deep rooted into their mentality (corruption, post communist thinking etc).... every government that they had ended like that :1orglaugh
when I look now who my nation elected I feel the same, like worse thieves instead of former thieves.
you never know....
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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21463093)
But why they not make reform now? 3 years gone. salary down, corrupt rise etc..
but Mccain make funny selfie for trolling Putin


Sarn 01-18-2017 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21463066)
its a little more complicated then that...what if "democratically elected" president turns his back on his citizens? Do nation have right to overthrow him ? I guess so...
when they will overthrow Poroshenko ? you never know...
were they naive with EU deal ? yes they were....
there are like milions of Ukrainians already in EU....later there will robots probably :-P

Few radical groups not have rigths overthrow President.

just a punk 01-18-2017 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21463033)
what happened IMO was the will of Ukrainians

From the beginning it was. And you know, I was supported them (read my posts here of that time). But after that it went wrong. Wrong from about here:

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9328/...aff6d_orig.jpg

http://cdn-st1.rtr-vesti.ru/p/o_882655.jpg

http://inpress.ua/uploads/news/2014/...f7e255de79.jpg

Course it's ok to burn police officers alive because it's not America. In America the police officers will just shot you dead for that (they don't like to feel a flaming gasoline on their faces). Everything is ok in the Ukraine. Right? Because those are just Ukrainian cops, not the American ones so everyone can burn them at will. They have no wives, no kids, no parents, so who cares till their names are not Bruce Willis and they are not shown on the US TV?

This has nothing to do with the will of the Ukrainian people. The 5 billion dollars were spent not for nothing (the US government knew it). Should I post a video where Ukrainian "rebels" discus what should whey do to a guy with an emerged eye? They have decided to finish him because he's a cop. I won't post it here for a known reason, but you can easily find it on the Net.


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