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Bladewire 03-10-2017 01:16 PM

Great News! The American Jobs Report is out First Full Month Under New POTUS
 
But Trump says don't believe the job reports aka unemployment reports, they are fake :thumbsup






JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-10-2017 01:18 PM

The unemployment rate is not 5%

Just like Hillary didnt have a 98.1% chance of winning

Wake up, cuck

Relic 03-10-2017 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21614638)
But Trump says don't believe the job reports aka unemployment reports, they are fake :thumbsup

**ATTNT: admin, op's fake nick 200%, ban away 2x**

Bladewire 03-10-2017 01:25 PM

Please stop trolling every thread with you fake nics JohnnyClips / relic / JoshuaG

Get a real life dude

People need to report his threads / posts or email [email protected]

It's clear JoshuaG / relic / JohnnyClips are the same negative obsessed user

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-10-2017 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21614656)
Please stop trolling every thread with you fake nics JohnnyClips / relic / JoshuaG

Get a real life dude

Please stop responding to my every post

Get a real life dude

Relic 03-10-2017 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 21614668)
Please stop responding to my every post

Get a real life dude

He actually replies to people he has on ignore. What a tool.

Relic 03-10-2017 01:29 PM

Go fuck yourself stalker op


JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-10-2017 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relic (Post 21614680)
He actually replies to people he has on ignore. What a tool.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

He's got serious issues tho

Relic 03-10-2017 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 21614686)
He's got serious issues tho

Yeah don't we all

Matt-ADX 03-10-2017 01:48 PM

BladeWire why are you reading Huff Post. Even CNN posts that he is on pace to deliver the jobs after month 1. Huff post predicted 99% Hillary would win. If after that you can't discount them as wrong what do you need

U.S. economy added 235,000 jobs in Trump's first full month - Mar. 10, 2017

Bladewire 03-10-2017 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt-ADX (Post 21614779)
BladeWire why are you reading Huff Post. Even CNN posts that he is on pace to deliver the jobs after month 1. Huff post predicted 99% Hillary would win. If after that you can't discount them as wrong what do you need

U.S. economy added 235,000 jobs in Trump's first full month - Mar. 10, 2017

I just posted a clip of the many times Trump said not to believe the jobs reports because they can be manipulated and they are fake.

Can you acknowledge that Trump said in those clips that the jobs report can't be trusted because it can be manipulated?

Trump said last month the real unemployment rate was 20%-42% yet his first jobs report says what? It's says 4.7% 1% lower than last month.

So Trump is manipulating the jobs report to make it seem better than Obama.

Matt-ADX 03-10-2017 01:54 PM

You think they might have an agenda?

https://i.imgur.com/hAzXe8M.jpg

Bladewire 03-10-2017 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt-ADX (Post 21614800)
You think they might have an agenda?


I posted a YouTube smashup of Trump saying the no a report is fake & can't manipulated.

Why do you keep mentioning a left wing blog?

Because you're trying to deflect.

Focus on Trumps words from his own mouth, I know it must be hard for you to take because you won't answer me about acknowledging what he said in the clips.

thommy 03-10-2017 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt-ADX (Post 21614779)
BladeWire why are you reading Huff Post. Even CNN posts that he is on pace to deliver the jobs after month 1. Huff post predicted 99% Hillary would win. If after that you can't discount them as wrong what do you need

U.S. economy added 235,000 jobs in Trump's first full month - Mar. 10, 2017

you guys have to look a bit deeper at the numbers. the numbers that dropped where some lower middle educated and the very high educated (in this last mentioned group the drop is since years)

in the group with no high school diploma the number raised from 7,7 to 7,9 %
in the group with some college the number raised from 3,8 to 4%
in the group with a bachelors degree, the number dropped from 2,5 to 2,4%
in the group with high school diploma, the number dropped from 5,3 to 5,0

in this last group are usually a lot of people who work in the construction business.
as the winter in the north of US was warmer than last year the "construction season" season already started in february.

if you look additionally in the gender data you will see, that unemployment rate of man did not change at all. all the "new jobs" went to women (maybe because man are getting replaced with cheaper work from women because women earn in average 29% less than man do).

and if you want to read that now or not, the BIGGEST drops in unemployment rates are in hispanic and asians (because a lot of them got kicked out and canīt be unemployed anymore)
so a very funny maths.

so in fact the all in all paid wages did not change at all - i would even assume that the wages paid in total are lower than before.

HERE YOU CAN PLAY A BIT WITH THIS NUMBERS AND SEE THE REALITY

Robbie 03-10-2017 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21614797)
I just posted a clip of the many times Trump said not to believe the jobs reports because they can be manipulated and they are fake.

Can you acknowledge that Trump said in those clips that the jobs report can't be trusted because it can be manipulated?

Trump said last month the real unemployment rate was 20%-42% yet his first jobs report says what? It's says 4.7% 1% lower than last month.

So Trump is manipulating the jobs report to make it seem better than Obama.

Dude...Trump doesn't "manipulate" the report. The report is put out by the Bureau Of Labor Statistics.

And as you have already been shown over and over...the BLS changed the way they count unemployment a few years ago to make it appear lower than it really is.

Having said that....the new Unemployment numbers are just as b.s. as the ones were under Obama.
They mean nothing.
The only thing that matters is GDP growth and the Labor Force Participation (and of course the quality of jobs...if unemployment were ZERO but everybody had a minimum wage job...that would obviously not be good).

Will Trump "like" the first unemployment rate number of his administration? Sure.
He's not gonna say it's "bad" now that he's President. Would you? Of course not.

But is he working to truly make the real numbers better? Yes. That's what his ideas on trade, taxes, and regulations are all about.

In the meantime, you can bask in glory if and when Trump touts the unemployment number because it would obviously be hypocritical of him to do so.

If he is truthful about it, he'll say that it sucks...but that he is working to change that.

baddog 03-10-2017 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21614656)
Please stop trolling every thread with you fake nics JohnnyClips / relic / JoshuaG

Get a real life dude

People need to report his threads / posts or email [email protected]

It's clear JoshuaG / relic / JohnnyClips are the same negative obsessed user

What is clear is that you don't have a clue

Bladewire 03-10-2017 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 21615028)
What is clear is that you don't have a clue

Did you watch the clips of Trump saying the jobs report is fake?

Reality is a bitch sometimes I know






baddog 03-10-2017 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21614884)
you guys have to look a bit deeper at the numbers. the numbers that dropped where some lower middle educated and the very high educated (in this last mentioned group the drop is since years)

in the group with no high school diploma the number raised from 7,7 to 7,9 %
in the group with some college the number raised from 3,8 to 4%
in the group with a bachelors degree, the number dropped from 2,5 to 2,4%
in the group with high school diploma, the number dropped from 5,3 to 5,0

in this last group are usually a lot of people who work in the construction business.
as the winter in the north of US was warmer than last year the "construction season" season already started in february.

if you look additionally in the gender data you will see, that unemployment rate of man did not change at all. all the "new jobs" went to women (maybe because man are getting replaced with cheaper work from women because women earn in average 29% less than man do).

and if you want to read that now or not, the BIGGEST drops in unemployment rates are in hispanic and asians (because a lot of them got kicked out and canīt be unemployed anymore)
so a very funny maths.

so in fact the all in all paid wages did not change at all - i would even assume that the wages paid in total are lower than before.

HERE YOU CAN PLAY A BIT WITH THIS NUMBERS AND SEE THE REALITY

In other words, Trump can do no good.

Sorry dude, the numbers show Trump is doing good, even if you hate it.

baddog 03-10-2017 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21615037)
Did you watch the clips of Trump saying the jobs report is fake?

Reality is a bitch sometimes I know






When Obama was in office YOUR ILK said it was accurate; now it isn't.

Bladewire 03-10-2017 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21614944)

Having said that....the new Unemployment numbers are just as b.s. as the ones were under Obama.
They mean nothing.
...Will Trump "like" the first unemployment rate number of his administration? Sure.
He's not gonna say it's "bad" now that he's President. Would you? Of course not.

But is he working to truly make the real numbers better? Yes..

Trump said today, very clesrly, that today's report is real:

"I talked to the president prior to this, and he said to quote him very clearly: 'They may have been phony in the past, but it's very real now.'Spicer quotes Trump: Jobs reports 'may have been phony in the past, but it's very real now' | TheHill

So Trump lied before about the real unemployment rate being 20%-42%.

OR

He's lying now.

Just admit it Robbie.

Bladewire 03-10-2017 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 21615043)
When Obama was in office YOUR ILK said it was accurate; now it isn't.

So you agree Trump is lying and the report is fake despite Trumps quote today:

"I talked to the president prior to this, and he said to quote him very clearly: 'They may have been phony in the past, but it's very real now.'Spicer quotes Trump: Jobs reports 'may have been phony in the past, but it's very real now' | TheHill

Why is Trump lying to us Baddog?

Relic 03-10-2017 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 21615028)
What is clear is that you don't have a clue

http://i.imgur.com/DcuYUh7.gif

thommy 03-10-2017 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 21615040)
In other words, Trump can do no good.

Sorry dude, the numbers show Trump is doing good, even if you hate it.

well, you can read the numbers as a blind or as someone who understand them.
you might fit into the first group

Rochard 03-10-2017 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt-ADX (Post 21614779)
BladeWire why are you reading Huff Post. Even CNN posts that he is on pace to deliver the jobs after month 1. Huff post predicted 99% Hillary would win. If after that you can't discount them as wrong what do you need

U.S. economy added 235,000 jobs in Drumpf's first full month - Mar. 10, 2017

We've had 76 months of straight growth. Trump hasn't been in office long enough to fuck this up. He hasn't done jack shit to the economy yet. In fact, other than ordering a failed military strike, he really... hasn't done anything. At all.

Barry-xlovecam 03-10-2017 06:58 PM

I think he may just be testing the waters to see who actually believes him -- found some suckers here -- LMAO.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-10-2017 07:00 PM

Trump bringing jobs back alredy1

pimpmaster9000 03-10-2017 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 21615427)
Trump bringing jobs back alredy1

Trickle up is the only show in town IRL

Robbie 03-11-2017 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21615049)
Trump said today, very clesrly, that today's report is real:

"I talked to the president prior to this, and he said to quote him very clearly: 'They may have been phony in the past, but it's very real now.'Spicer quotes Trump: Jobs reports 'may have been phony in the past, but it's very real now' | TheHill

So Trump lied before about the real unemployment rate being 20%-42%.

OR

He's lying now.

Just admit it Robbie.

Trump wasn't "lying" then. And if you just use your brain you already would understand what has been explained to you over and over and over...complete with links to the Bureau Of Labor Statistics.

And if you simply READ what I wrote instead of pretending like you didn't see it...you would see that I clearly said that IF Trump proclaims that the unemployment rate numbers are accurate...then he is being a hypocrite about it when he plainly knows (Just like EVERYBODY with a brain does) that those numbers are not accurate.

Apparently the only people in the world who just can't grasp the "adjusted" unemployment numbers NOT matching the Labor Force Participation numbers...are you, President Obama, and now...if Trump is being disingenuous (though I haven't heard him say it yet)...President Trump.

Other than the three of you...most people can easily see for themselves.

Bladewire 03-11-2017 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21615733)
Trump wasn't "lying" then. And if you just use your brain you already would understand what has been explained to you over and over and over...complete with links to the Bureau Of Labor Statistics.

And if you simply READ what I wrote instead of pretending like you didn't see it...you would see that I clearly said that IF Trump proclaims that the unemployment rate numbers are accurate...then he is being a hypocrite about it when he plainly knows (Just like EVERYBODY with a brain does) that those numbers are not accurate.

Apparently the only people in the world who just can't grasp the "adjusted" unemployment numbers NOT matching the Labor Force Participation numbers...are you, President Obama, and now...if Trump is being disingenuous (though I haven't heard him say it yet)...President Trump.

Other than the three of you...most people can easily see for themselves.

There is no "IF Trump proclaims that the unemployment rate numbers are accurate...then he is being a hypocrite" I posted you his quote and the link it was televised today at the press conference.

I'm glad you agree he's lying, it's clearly undeniable. :1orglaugh:thumbsup

hyp·o·crite
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noun

a person who indulges in hypocrisy.

synonyms: liar, pretender, dissembler, deceiver, pietist, sanctimonious person, plaster saint.

Barry-xlovecam 03-11-2017 05:33 AM

Donald Trump now likes jobs reports

Quote:

While candidate Trump questioned the validity of the monthly reports from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the new president welcomed Friday's better-than-expected report showing that the economy added 235,000 jobs last month.

"I talked to the president prior to this and he said to quote him very clearly," Trump spokesman Sean Spicer told reporters. "'They may have been phony in the past, but it's very real now.'"
In the alt world ANYTHING can happen!

thommy 03-11-2017 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21615976)
They may have been phony in the past, but it's very real now.

what a fucking liar !!!!
if they are clear NOW they were clear before also.
he just wants to blame others with lies and canīt stand the truth on him.

and as i said - if you look INSIDE the numbers NOTHING have changed except manīs jobs went to women with 29% less wages.
and a natural decrease of season workers because of the good weather.

the truth will come up soon and i recommend you to get your money out of the stockmarket before june - it will crash HORRIBLE !!!

just wait what happens after wednesday when US government is not able to pay anything anymore OR agree for even more depth as 20 TRILLION dollars.


JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-11-2017 08:09 AM

Making America Great Again already!

Damn that didn't take too long

Good job Mr Trump!

thommy 03-11-2017 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 21616168)
Making America Great Again already!

Damn that didn't take too long

Good job Mr Trump!

dreamer - in 5 or 6 months you will see that amercia is the greatest loser on this planet with the biggest loser president ever.
you blind kid canīt even read the numbers he have presented and even when you could you would not understand them.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-11-2017 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21616192)
dreamer - in 5 or 6 months you will see that amercia is the greatest loser on this planet with the biggest loser president ever.
you blind kid canīt even read the numbers he have presented and even when you could you would not understand them.

Go back to bed, eurotrash tommy boy!

Barry-xlovecam 03-11-2017 08:22 AM

HAHAHA

If you want to argue that 10% of employed workers are 'underemployed' that isn't a viable argument because they are not worth employing at their old wages (*in most cases).

The new dollar value makes imports cheaper and decreases exports. It is also inflationary as the lower import costs will make a border tax less noticeable (for a while) until the dollar value drops and import costs increase. The net cost of imports are then with taxes destined to increase 20% or 30%

The US standard of living will decrease and we will have the overdue recession expected.

thommy 03-11-2017 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21615976)
Donald Trump now likes jobs reports



In the alt world ANYTHING can happen!

here another interessting number:

inflation rate december january 0,4%
expected increase of hourly wages 0,3%
reached increase of hourly wages 0,23%

where are the mathematics geniuses which can show me a positive development from this numbers ?

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-11-2017 08:34 AM

200,000+ jobs and all you can do is cry

Robbie 03-11-2017 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21615751)
I posted you his quote and the link it was televised today at the press conference.

No you didn't.

THIS is what you linked to:
------
“I talked to the president prior to this, and he said to quote him very clearly: 'They may have been phony in the past, but it’s very real now.'"
Spicer and reporters present laughed, though it wasn't immediately clear whether Trump was joking.

------
"It wasn't immediately clear whether Trump was joking" when he said that to Spicer.
So "no", so far Trump has not stood in front of the press and said that the unemployment rate is "real".

BUT...he is talking about the actual job NUMBERS for the first period of his Presidency.

The number expected was 190,000 +
The number created was 235,000 +

So yeah, he can be happy about that.

I was just watching the Saturday morning business shows. And the main topic was ObamaCare.
Every single analyst is in agreement that the replacement bill AS IT STANDS NOW won't bring any healthcare costs down ($10 for an aspirin at the hospital kind of stuff). They all said that it is just shifting around who is paying the insurance companies.

The reason I bring that up is...they also discussed the economy. And every one of them also agreed that the higher than expected job growth is from a bump caused by the business community being happy that Trump was elected.
They stated that (and I 100% agree) business is now optimistic because of proposed tax, trade, and regulatory changes.

Anything that relieves govt. burden on business is a good thing.
Our govt. was never meant to harm our economy. But sometimes politicians pass laws that favor their cronies who have giant corporations and strangle small business who can't afford the regulatory cost, healthcare, and taxes.

Just watch Bladewire...all of your doom and gloom and negativity will be proven to have been a waste of your time.
Unleashing the American businessman from the govt. is like waking up a sleeping giant that is our economy.

I believe that 100% from MY life experiences and personal knowledge. I've been my own boss since I turned 17 in 1978. Never worked for anyone else. And I've seen a thing or two in this world running my own businesses.
It might not be a bad idea to at least consider what I'm saying to you.

As Trump told the African American voters..."What the hell do you have to lose?"
Nothing.
And when the economy grows you will have everything to GAIN.

thommy 03-11-2017 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21616201)
HAHAHA

If you want to argue that 10% of employed workers are 'underemployed' that isn't a viable argument because they are not worth employing at their old wages (*in most cases).

The new dollar value makes imports cheaper and decreases exports. It is also inflationary as the lower import costs will make a border tax less noticeable (for a while) until the dollar value drops and import costs increase. The net cost of imports are then with taxes destined to increase 20% or 30%



Initial applications for unemployment benefits
expected: 237.000
actual: 243.000

ISM-Index Industrie Feb
expected: 56,0
actual: 54,2

Producer prices
expected: +0,3
actual: +0,6

i can not see any glory somewhere.

Barry-xlovecam 03-11-2017 09:06 AM

I expect inflation will increase to 5% to 7% depending on the dollar values.
If the stock market tanks again it could be a lot worse.
I expect a new US war to try and stimulate the economy -- we don't have the money for Trump's infrastructure plans it would cost more than a trillion dollars -- money better spent (or worth going further in debt) than fighting the 'new enemy.'
Same shit new day. Same swamp new slime.

We will have a national debt of 25 Trillion or more in 10 years. Leopards don't change their spots.


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