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anexsia 06-02-2017 07:44 PM

Nastydollars move to Adultforce
 
So I see Nastydollars is now moving over to Adultforce...anyone know what's going to happen to all the Nastydollars promo material (FHGs, content, banners, etc)?

jscott 06-02-2017 07:53 PM

I really hope their old system continues to work, if not, it'll be the end of an era :(

TheDynasty 06-02-2017 08:06 PM

I wonder the same heres a bump

adultchatpay 06-02-2017 08:42 PM

I am promoting babes.com for so long, since the merge, the FHG, banners and everything were removed. So i can't update anything. Adultforce is offering limited promotional materials.

ruff 06-02-2017 08:55 PM

Adultforce does not seem to be affiliate friendly. If all I have to promote a site is a link, what do I need Adultforce for?

klinton 06-02-2017 09:12 PM

bump for an answer from AF rep...
What will happen to FHGs, CDNs with hosted content, hosted trailers & hosted movies ?

Thanks

incredibleworkethic 06-02-2017 10:03 PM

I hope it goes well, but mainly for reasons like this is why I went to cams.

3xmedia 06-02-2017 11:06 PM

Babesmoney moved there recently and I had to stop promoting it as there is absolutely no promo content :disgust

CrazyMartin 06-03-2017 12:35 AM

the same with Twistys, no FreehostedGalleries

i don't get it

j3rkules 06-03-2017 03:46 AM

Such a nice sponsors back in the day...

CaptainHowdy 06-03-2017 07:45 AM

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anexsia 06-03-2017 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultchatpay (Post 21809185)
I am promoting babes.com for so long, since the merge, the FHG, banners and everything were removed. So i can't update anything. Adultforce is offering limited promotional materials.

Yeah this is what I'm worried about...I login to Adult Force and there's like no promo material, the place is bare.

I'm really hoping they actually migrate the promo material for ND.

Holy Damage 06-03-2017 10:34 AM

adultforce is a garbage... no promo tools, only links and banners?
no thanks

xXXtesy10 06-03-2017 03:40 PM

fuck manwin in the ass!! Fuck them right in the fucking ass!!

cybermike 06-03-2017 09:08 PM

They don't give a shit.. if they did they would at least host the clips they use on their tubes for affiliates

Beaver1 06-03-2017 09:29 PM

That means more or less sales for other tube owners?

klinton 06-03-2017 11:51 PM

hey adultforce rep, please reply, thx.
does it mean that if I have hosted tubes using your content they all be dead now ?
Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21809209)
bump for an answer from AF rep...
What will happen to FHGs, CDNs with hosted content, hosted trailers & hosted movies ?

Thanks


SomeCreep 06-04-2017 03:33 AM

Damn, they are? AdultForce affiliate support is TERRIBLE. Essentially non-existent. Fuck. If this isn't the death of the adult industry, then I don't know what is.

8pt-buck 06-04-2017 04:00 AM

With their limited promotional tools, we've terminated promotion.

Marshal 06-04-2017 01:14 PM

That's what I was trying to point out when talking to their affiliate managers. But looks like nobody's really listening... :2 cents:

Sharon1974 06-05-2017 12:20 AM

There's only one conclusion: they do not need affiliates any more.

redwhiteandblue 06-05-2017 12:39 AM

Correction, they do not need affiliates who want everything hosted for free any more.

Beaver1 06-05-2017 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sharon1974 (Post 21812866)
There's only one conclusion: they do not need affiliates any more.

thats wrong!

The only conclusion is: they need just one affiliate

and that was planed 10 years ago.

3xmedia 06-05-2017 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 21810928)
AdultForce affiliate support is TERRIBLE.

correct, they have listed many aff. managers on their site but they are all useless and can be fired. none of them responds.

VikingMan 06-05-2017 03:47 AM

congrats to the winners and shit

emmasexytime 06-05-2017 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redwhiteandblue (Post 21812872)
Correction, they do not need affiliates who want everything hosted for free any more.


They are getting traffic and conversions

Nothing free :2 cents:

anexsia 06-05-2017 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redwhiteandblue (Post 21812872)
Correction, they do not need affiliates who want everything hosted for free any more.

1. FHGs are just a single promo tool offered by Nastydollars, things like content zips, videos, banners, etc are hosted on affiliate servers for promotion

2. Bandwidth is cheap as fuck

Holy Damage 06-05-2017 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redwhiteandblue (Post 21812872)
Correction, they do not need affiliates who want everything hosted for free any more.

We can make our own galleries, but where is the zip files with these content?
Like said previous, bandwidth nowdays is cheap

Denny 06-05-2017 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anexsia (Post 21813142)
1. FHGs are just a single promo tool offered by Nastydollars, things like content zips, videos, banners, etc are hosted on affiliate servers for promotion

2. Bandwidth is cheap as fuck

Exactly :2 cents:

robwod 06-05-2017 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anexsia (Post 21809146)
So I see Nastydollars is now moving over to Adultforce...anyone know what's going to happen to all the Nastydollars promo material (FHGs, content, banners, etc)?

Based on the other sites they've migrated, I would not count on the current promo tool assortment to be migrated over.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jscott (Post 21809152)
I really hope their old system continues to work, if not, it'll be the end of an era :(

I seriously doubt their old system will continue to work. Having been frustrated with every program they have migrated to AdultForce so far, I had tried to login to twistyscash, babesmoney, etc and ultimately get redirected to adultforce. My guess is they'll do the same with ND.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3xmedia (Post 21809365)
Babesmoney moved there recently and I had to stop promoting it as there is absolutely no promo content :disgust

There's a very limited amount in zip files, but certainly no traditional promo tools.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyMartin (Post 21809440)
the same with Twistys, no FreehostedGalleries

i don't get it

I ended up going to Nats.CherryPimps.com as the primary replacement for BabesMoney and Twistyscash. Lots of content, tons of top pornstars and models, plus fresh faces to the business, FHG's, downloadable content, tube content, people who respond to inquiries in a timely manner, and the promotional tools are constantly updated. And it uses NATS which, in my opinion, is infinitely more affiliate friendly than AF. More importantly, they're very receptive to suggestions and custom tools. Give CherryPimps a try. Seriously.

PornDiscounts-V 06-05-2017 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robwod (Post 21813769)
Based on the other sites they've migrated, I would not count on the current promo tool assortment to be migrated over.



I seriously doubt their old system will continue to work. Having been frustrated with every program they have migrated to AdultForce so far, I had tried to login to twistyscash, babesmoney, etc and ultimately get redirected to adultforce. My guess is they'll do the same with ND.



There's a very limited amount in zip files, but certainly no traditional promo tools.



I ended up going to Nats.CherryPimps.com as the primary replacement for BabesMoney and Twistyscash. Lots of content, tons of top pornstars and models, plus fresh faces to the business, FHG's, downloadable content, tube content, people who respond to inquiries in a timely manner, and the promotional tools are constantly updated. And it uses NATS which, in my opinion, is infinitely more affiliate friendly than AF. More importantly, they're very receptive to suggestions and custom tools. Give CherryPimps a try. Seriously.

Agreed. Cherry Pimps will talk to you from the ground up to the CEO. They have provided us with everything we've ever asked for.

Adult Force system sucks. Can't this hundred million dollar company hire one guy for $70,000 per year and all he does it add content and other things we want?

OneMillionGirls 06-05-2017 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holy Damage (Post 21810022)
adultforce is a garbage... no promo tools, only links and banners?
no thanks

true words

Tjeezers 06-05-2017 04:44 PM

Affiliates are the most important aspect of your business, unfortunately this idea is dead for long time now. The only reason we remain with sponsors is cause we still have some sort of hope, seen the name CherryPimp, classic good program, we will move most to them also and to other names that have proven to remain stable.

Tjeezers 06-05-2017 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marshal (Post 21811669)
That's what I was trying to point out when talking to their affiliate managers. But looks like nobody's really listening... :2 cents:

the Knife always cuts on both sides, affiliates are seen as profiteers of the business, we are the little fish that swim with the sharks. And to be honest, a lot of program owners feel proud to be seen as a shark :)

Bladewire 06-05-2017 05:00 PM

Looks like the gravy train of the sponsor giving you 50% profits for life & doing EVERYTHING but putting up the fucking link for you is over :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Time for you lazy fucks to actually WORK! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:(

robwod 06-05-2017 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21814522)
Looks like the gravy train of the sponsor giving you 50% profits for life & doing EVERYTHING but putting up the fucking link for you is over :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Time for you lazy fucks to actually WORK! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:(

Some of us actually do work. You should learn to not tar everyone with the same brush as you ultimately end up sounding like an ill-informed troll.

Axeman 06-05-2017 05:34 PM

Some people have Fuck You money. Well it seems in their eyes, they have Fuck You traffic and brand awareness. To them, the cost to provide and support affiliates, plus pay 50% or PPS is just not worth it to them. They have obviously made the choice that they save money by working with a few whale affiliates that they have, and don't give a piss about anyone else. Been obvious for a very long time that MindGeeK has been going that way.

We don't share that mindset at all.

Barry-xlovecam 06-05-2017 06:28 PM

This is a lost marketing opportunity or a culling of the herd -- without the real numbers I have no idea. If your traffic is valuable (will convert) find a new home for it and move on -- lessons learned. Use a dynamic linking schema -- JavaScript/AJAX perhaps with a server side database that you can switch over in a heartbeat.

wankawonk 06-05-2017 07:11 PM

they got rid of most of the promo materials because they don't work any more and they're a waste of everyone's time.

if mindgeek actually wants your traffic, they contact you directly and offer you custom banner codes like the ones on pornhub, and they tell you that you can take videos directly off of their paysites (brazzers, etc) and cut them down to 5-10 minutes and put them on your own sites...as long as you show their custom banners.

Point is, their whole business model revolves around getting cut-down videos from brazzers/etc on lots of different tube sites (even competitors like xhamster, xvideos) and showing their own banners (for brazzers/etc) next to them. So if you're not a tube owner with lots of traffic, they don't care about you anymore.

Konda 06-05-2017 07:34 PM

For most affiliate programs these days probably 90% of their sales come from ad networks, media buyers, etc. who don't need any free promo tools, just good ads.

For most of them it's not worth spending all the time on creating all the promo tools and having support for the 1000s of 'small accounts'. They rather put that time and money into creating the best banners for the networks and their big affiliates and also things like backend development, billing flow optimizations, machine learning, etc. as that makes them more money.

It's a business, the old school affiliate model is pretty dead so I can imagine they don't want to put more time and money into that but focus on the things that work instead.

As others mentioned there are still some programs left that get most of their sales from affiliates and still update their promo tools like clockwork so the best is to switch to those kind of programs if you still need those.


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