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RedFred 12-28-2018 06:22 AM

Trump threatens to close entire border if Democrats don't fund border wall
 
What's next? Is he going to threaten a nuclear war if Mueller doesnt stop his investigation?

"We will be forced to close the Southern Border entirely if the Obstructionist Democrats do not give us the money to finish the Wall & also change the ridiculous immigration laws that our Country is saddled with," the president tweeted. "Hard to believe there was a Congress & President who would approve!"


President Trump threatens to 'close Southern Border entirely' if Democrats don't fund border wall

Busty2 12-28-2018 06:36 AM

“The Boy Who Cried 'Wolf'”

For Wolf substitute man child

Matt 26z 12-28-2018 07:55 AM

This is what a real president sounds like.

Get over it and grab yourself by the bussy, fake nic bladewire redfred.

crockett 12-28-2018 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 22387668)
This is what a real president sounds like.

Get over it and grab yourself by the bussy, fake nic bladewire redfred.

Isnt it odd you were not posting for the last 2 days nor were all the other alt right nicks.. now suddenly you are all back at once..

Things that make you go hummmm.

2MuchMark 12-28-2018 08:08 AM

What? The deal maker can't make a deal? Poor guy.

MaDalton 12-28-2018 08:09 AM

sounds like a reasonable solution to the problem...

Paul Markham 12-28-2018 08:12 AM

It was an election promise. So what's wrong with that?

Changing your immigration laws would be a good thing as well.

RedFred 12-28-2018 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22387674)
It was an election promise. So what's wrong with that?

Changing your immigration laws would be a good thing as well.


His election promise was that Mexico would pay for it. And how is closing border crossings going to solve people coming in illegally when they are not using border crossings to begin with?

That's whats wrong with that. Him and his cult members (you) have issues with common sense.

Busty2 12-28-2018 08:38 AM

Chump and government are so far removed from the real world, they have no clue how these guys come to the USA illegally.

They drive through San Ysidro with fake papers
They overstay there temporary visas via flights into the USA
They come in from Canada ( Route 1 )
They hike in from Acadia National Park on the Canadian borders ( there is no wall here, i know I've hiked it a few times )

And i'm sure there are many other ways besides climbing over some wall ?

tony286 12-28-2018 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22387674)
It was an election promise. So what's wrong with that?

Changing your immigration laws would be a good thing as well.

He also said I will close the government and I will be proud to say I did it. Now he is blaming the Dems and the GOP his own party which had both houses and wouldn't touch it, ran away for the rest of year like the cowards they are.

This was the way he gins up the base who haven't cracked open a newspaper in years. Illegal immigration has been dropping in this country for years.

Remember the hordes that were coming before the election and he used the military for a political stunt. Nothing happened except kids are dying.

its not about safety it's he wants his name on a wall.

directfiesta 12-28-2018 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22387674)
It was an election promise. So what's wrong with that?

Changing your immigration laws would be a good thing as well.

Promise was that Mexico was to pay for it.

Rochard 12-28-2018 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22387674)
It was an election promise. So what's wrong with that?

You really have no idea what you are talking about...

He is not talking about "locking down" the border or putting up a wall; He is talking about physically closing the border... Meaning NO ONE gets through. Meaning NOTHING gets through. Meaning products made in Mexico can no longer come across the border. Meaning Americans on vacation in Mexico cannot come home. Meaning Mexicans who cross the border every day legally to buy American goods cannot come over.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22387674)

Changing your immigration laws would be a good thing as well.

There is nothing wrong with our immigration laws. We have a path for people to come here legally. Just like any other country.

Paul, you really have no idea what is happening here.

J. Falcon 12-28-2018 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22387674)
It was an election promise. So what's wrong with that?

Changing your immigration laws would be a good thing as well.

Do you think a giant wall is a reasonable solution to prevent illegal immigration?

Paul Markham 12-28-2018 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22387710)
You really have no idea what you are talking about...

He is not talking about "locking down" the border or putting up a wall; He is talking about physically closing the border... Meaning NO ONE gets through. Meaning NOTHING gets through. Meaning products made in Mexico can no longer come across the border. Meaning Americans on vacation in Mexico cannot come home. Meaning Mexicans who cross the border every day legally to buy American goods cannot come over.

So the Democrats had best give in.

Quote:

There is nothing wrong with our immigration laws. We have a path for people to come here legally. Just like any other country.
There are laws against murder, but that doesn't stop people. If the border was effective, why do I see these on American roads in the South?


Rochard, you really have no idea what is happening in your own country.

Bladewire 12-28-2018 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22387674)
It was an election promise. So what's wrong with that?

Why are you lying Paul?

Trump never said he would shut down the American government until American citizens pay for more border wall.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

Bladewire 12-28-2018 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 22387712)
Do you think a giant wall is a reasonable solution to prevent illegal immigration?

Paul knows we already have 700 miles of border wall. He's just trolling.

beerptrol 12-28-2018 10:53 AM

Spoiled elitist man child who is worshipped by the alt right cultist
His campaign promise was that Mexico was going to pay for it. Funny how you cultist ignore that part of the promise

Bladewire 12-28-2018 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22387724)
So the Democrats had best give in.

You are so ignorant to how our country works.

It's almost funny how stuoid you are to our balance of power government structure in America.

The sad part about you is you're getting joy out of being an asshole rooting for the losing team.

Our Republican & Democrat congress in our legislative branch will pass a funding bill again, Trump in the executive branch will veto it, then congress will override his veto with 2/3 votes. Also, the judicial branch won't let Trump close the border to fund a wall, they've stopped a lot of his stupid tyrant moves.

It's sad you're so ignorant about

onwebcam 12-28-2018 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22387710)
You really have no idea what you are talking about...

He is not talking about "locking down" the border or putting up a wall; He is talking about physically closing the border... Meaning NO ONE gets through. Meaning NOTHING gets through. Meaning products made in Mexico can no longer come across the border. Meaning Americans on vacation in Mexico cannot come home. Meaning Mexicans who cross the border every day legally to buy American goods cannot come over.



There is nothing wrong with our immigration laws. We have a path for people to come here legally. Just like any other country.

Paul, you really have no idea what is happening here.

There are problems. Those who wish to not follow the legal path and instead go around the line.. In addition, those who wish to take 2 separate issues, 1 being illegals and 2 those who come legally and making those 1 issue.

Bladewire 12-28-2018 11:08 AM

↑↑↑ Alt-right hate Russian pretending to be American

Fake nic reply in 3.. 2.. 1...

He has no impulse control as part of his mental defect

Acepimp 12-28-2018 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22387678)
His election promise was that Mexico would pay for it. And how is closing border crossings going to solve people coming in illegally when they are not using border crossings to begin with?

So you're in favor of rampant illegal immigration, crime, drug cartels, and human smuggling. Sounds like we need a wall / fence, which all the Democrats voted for in the past.


Quote:

Originally Posted by beerptrol (Post 22387740)
Spoiled elitist man child who is worshipped by the alt right cultist
His campaign promise was that Mexico was going to pay for it. Funny how you cultist ignore that part of the promise

Funny how you ignore what's actually happening.

https://i.imgur.com/lGb8NNg.jpg

Bladewire 12-28-2018 11:22 AM

↑↑↑ I was right again!

Rochard 12-28-2018 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22387724)
So the Democrats had best give in.

No, not at all. Trump said he would be proud to shut down the government and he did. There was an offer on the table - which passed the senate - that offered up over a billion dollars for border protection. Trump refused it. This is a Trump shutdown. Trump is proud of this.

If Trump wants to shut down the border... Great. American products ship billions of dollars to Mexico too. Let's just hurt American companies more.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22387724)
If the border was effective, why do I see these on American roads in the South?


LOL. This just validates the entire point of not having a need for a wall. What these signs say is ports of entry are restricted, and people might try to flee through the port of entry. There is already walls around the ports of entry.

RedFred 12-28-2018 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22387751)



Funny how you ignore what's actually happening.

https://i.imgur.com/lGb8NNg.jpg


Your gullible dumbass also believes the military got a 10% raise.

kane 12-28-2018 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22387751)
So you're in favor of rampant illegal immigration, crime, drug cartels, and human smuggling. Sounds like we need a wall / fence, which all the Democrats voted for in the past.




Funny how you ignore what's actually happening.

https://i.imgur.com/lGb8NNg.jpg

There is a real easy way to do this. When the Dems take the House over next week they pass a bill that gives Trump direct access to the extra money that will now be coming in from Mexico and he can use that to pay for his wall. This way his wall gets built, Mexico actually pays for it, and everyone is happy. If they do this and Trump refuses to sign the bill, then we know just how much he really believes in this new deal.

Acepimp 12-28-2018 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22387755)
↑↑↑ I'm being hysterical again!

^^ Fixed it for you

onwebcam 12-28-2018 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 22387773)
There is a real easy way to do this. When the Dems take the House over next week they pass a bill that gives Trump direct access to the extra money that will now be coming in from Mexico and he can use that to pay for his wall. This way his wall gets built, Mexico actually pays for it, and everyone is happy. If they do this and Trump refuses to sign the bill, then we know just how much he really believes in this new deal.

They won't. But he's already doing it anyway..

Donald J. Trump

Verified account

@realDonaldTrump

I am in the Oval Office & just gave out a 115 mile long contract for another large section of the Wall in Texas. We are already building and renovating many miles of Wall, some complete. Democrats must end Shutdown and finish funding. Billions of Dollars, & lives, will be saved!

3:24 PM - 24 Dec 2018

RedFred 12-28-2018 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22387777)
They won't. But he's already doing it anyway..

Donald J. Trump

Verified account

@realDonaldTrump

I am in the Oval Office & just gave out a 115 mile long contract for another large section of the Wall in Texas. We are already building and renovating many miles of Wall, some complete. Democrats must end Shutdown and finish funding. Billions of Dollars, & lives, will be saved!

3:24 PM - 24 Dec 2018

Another Trump lie. You cultists are amazing on the bullshit you'll believe.

Acepimp 12-28-2018 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22387771)
Your gullible dumbass also believes the military got a 10% raise.

I don't know about military pay rates, but I do know they got 700 billion in funding. The Army Corp of Engineers builds things. They have the funds and will build the wall. You alt-left dupes don't seem to realize that the shutdown over border security is just theater. The wall is funded, he just wants to expose the Democrats as being against border security and being in favor of rampant crime (to get new voters)

RedFred 12-28-2018 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22387784)
I don't know about military pay rates, but I do know they got 700 billion in funding. The Army Corp of Engineers builds things. They have the funds and will build the wall. You alt-left dupes don't seem to realize that the shutdown over border security is just theater. The wall is funded, he just wants to expose the Democrats as being against border security and being in favor of rampant crime (to get new voters)


Okay, for the 47th time.....TRUMP CANNOT SPEND MILITARY MONEY WITHOUT CONGRESS

kane 12-28-2018 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22387784)
I don't know about military pay rates, but I do know they got 700 billion in funding. The Army Corp of Engineers builds things. They have the funds and will build the wall. You alt-left dupes don't seem to realize that the shutdown over border security is just theater. The wall is funded, he just wants to expose the Democrats as being against border security and being in favor of rampant crime (to get new voters)

He likely doesn't have the legal authority to reallocate that money and even if he does, where are they going to cut to give it to him? He just made a big deal about giving more money to rebuild the "greatly depleted' military left to him by Obama and now he wants to take it back.

kane 12-28-2018 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22387777)
They won't. But he's already doing it anyway..

Donald J. Trump

Verified account

@realDonaldTrump

I am in the Oval Office & just gave out a 115 mile long contract for another large section of the Wall in Texas. We are already building and renovating many miles of Wall, some complete. Democrats must end Shutdown and finish funding. Billions of Dollars, & lives, will be saved!

3:24 PM - 24 Dec 2018

This is either a straight up lie or he is referring to things that happened back in March when Congress approved funds for about 80 miles of wall in a few locations. Of course, this was months before Trump even signed the new NAFTA replacement deal so there is no way this money is coming from Mexico. Not to mention this deal of his doesn't go into effect until it actually passes through Congress which has not happened.

I know facts aren't your thing, but here is something from the AP.

TRUMP, speaking Tuesday: "We gave out 115 yesterday, and we gave it out at a great price."

THE FACTS: It's unclear where the figure of 115 miles is coming from.

According to DHS , the March funding from Congress will pay for 84 miles (135 kilometers) along the southern border, including the 33 miles (53 kilometers) for Texas. And if the Trump administration gets the $5 billion it's requested, DHS says it would build 215 miles (346 kilometers) that it considers the "highest priority," include 159 miles (256 kilometers) in Texas.

RedFred 12-28-2018 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 22387798)
This is either a straight up lie or he is referring to things that happened back in March when Congress approved funds for about 80 miles of wall in a few locations. Of course, this was months before Trump even signed the new NAFTA replacement deal so there is no way this money is coming from Mexico.

I know facts aren't your thing, but here is something from the AP.

TRUMP, speaking Tuesday: "We gave out 115 yesterday, and we gave it out at a great price."

THE FACTS: It's unclear where the figure of 115 miles is coming from.

According to DHS , the March funding from Congress will pay for 84 miles (135 kilometers) along the southern border, including the 33 miles (53 kilometers) for Texas. And if the Trump administration gets the $5 billion it's requested, DHS says it would build 215 miles (346 kilometers) that it considers the "highest priority," include 159 miles (256 kilometers) in Texas.

These people just cannot get it through their heads that Trump constantly lies. It's funnier than shit every time they post one of his tweets as proof of something.

NatalieK 12-28-2018 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 22387668)
This is what a real president sounds like.

Get over it and grab yourself by the bussy, fake nic bladewire redfred.

he sounds like a baby in a push chair not getting his toys...


honestly, you´re mental if you can´t see what 80% of the world can!


We´re laughing at Trump and the 50% US trump loving idiots! :1orglaugh

Bladewire 12-28-2018 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 22387874)
We´re laughing at Trump and the 50% US trump loving idiots! :1orglaugh

Only 19% of Americans (63 million) voted for Trump. Our population is 325,700,000

Rochard 12-28-2018 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 22387668)
This is what a real president sounds like.

Get over it and grab yourself by the bussy, fake nic bladewire redfred.

Yes, he is a real man's man. You know, the kind of man that gets a doctor's note to avoid the draft.

It's bad enough Mr. trump is "proud" to shut down the government, adding holiday stress to a million government employees... But now he wants to shut down the borders costing American businesses hundreds of billions of dollars? Shutting down the border means shutting down nearly all trade with Mexico. How much money do you think Mexicans spend in the United States each day when they legally cross the border? How many tens of millions of dollars do you think the United States sends to Mexico every day?

You Trumpers are freaking insane. You have a million people who aren't going to be able to pay their mortgage and Christmas bills, yet you want to do MORE damage the Americans?

Acepimp 12-28-2018 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22387786)
Okay, for the 47th time.....TRUMP CANNOT SPEND MILITARY MONEY WITHOUT CONGRESS

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 22387787)
He likely doesn't have the legal authority to reallocate that money and even if he does, where are they going to cut to give it to him? He just made a big deal about giving more money to rebuild the "greatly depleted' military left to him by Obama and now he wants to take it back.


Normally that would be true. However, the President has declared a Human Rights Emergency AND has notified Congress that he's invoking the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985. By making these two declarations President Trump has communicated that he has the authority to NOT spend any funds he doesn't deem necessary and will return them to the US Treasury.

If he determines that building a Wall on the Southern Border is a defense against Human Trafficking, he can move funds from anywhere else in the Defense Dept Allocation & simply build the Wall. Congress is powerless to stop cash reallocations on an omnibus bill AND cannot stop the DOD from taking measures under a declared Emergency. Despite their language in the Omnibus Bill about the Border Wall, it is trumped by the State of Emergency that Trump declared.

This article is from March, 2018:

President Trump hints he may use Defense budget to build the border wall now

:rasta

kane 12-28-2018 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22387882)
Normally that would be true. However, the President has declared a Human Rights Emergency AND has notified Congress that he's invoking the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985. By making these two declarations President Trump has communicated that he has the authority to NOT spend any funds he doesn't deem necessary and will return them to the US Treasury.

If he determines that building a Wall on the Southern Border is a defense against Human Trafficking, he can move funds from anywhere else in the Defense Dept Allocation & simply build the Wall. Congress is powerless to stop cash reallocations on an omnibus bill AND cannot stop the DOD from taking measures under a declared Emergency. Despite their language in the Omnibus Bill about the Border Wall, it is trumped by the State of Emergency that Trump declared.

This article is from March, 2018:

President Trump hints he may use Defense budget to build the border wall now

:rasta

This isn't a clusterfuck at all.

RedFred 12-28-2018 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22387882)
Normally that would be true. However, the President has declared a Human Rights Emergency AND has notified Congress that he's invoking the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985. By making these two declarations President Trump has communicated that he has the authority to NOT spend any funds he doesn't deem necessary and will return them to the US Treasury.

If he determines that building a Wall on the Southern Border is a defense against Human Trafficking, he can move funds from anywhere else in the Defense Dept Allocation & simply build the Wall. Congress is powerless to stop cash reallocations on an omnibus bill AND cannot stop the DOD from taking measures under a declared Emergency. Despite their language in the Omnibus Bill about the Border Wall, it is trumped by the State of Emergency that Trump declared.

This article is from March, 2018:

President Trump hints he may use Defense budget to build the border wall now

:rasta


Sure buddy, that's why he shut the govt down, because he doesn't need the $5 billion.

:1orglaugh

crockett 12-28-2018 07:42 PM

I'll take "Things a wannabe dictator would say" for $500, Bob..


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