Please please please let Boris Johnson be the next PM
 

The whole fucking country will lose their minds lol.

Would be interesting

If Matt Hancock gets anywhere near to power we’re in big trouble

Would be only the third PM of my lifetime whom I don't despise. (Major and Brown are the others)

So would Corbyn, to be fair.

Do you like his cock? :pimp

Yes great idea. Lets put another bumbling self obsessed narcissistic twat into high office.

That will be fucking hilarious.

However for those of us with businesses to run, mortgages, employees, actual responsibilities, we would like to see a return to good sense prevailing.

OP I get it, your life is shit, you made bad choices. Your life will always be shit. But the notion that having comedy politicians running the place is “funny”, is so fucking obtuse that I start to question the notion of democracy.

Vote for someone who will work for the common good, or dont fucking bother.

Alinsky alert.

Which rules out ANYONE in the Tories or Labour.

They are all lying cunts who don't give a shit !!

I cunt trust his bumbling persona. It's obviously an act. Anyone who gets as far as he has not stupid at all. Yet he presents himself as such. Cunt be trusted. :2 cents:

Probably why you're so in love with the EU.

Brown spent Britain into the dumps before the financial crash, Corbyn will do the same. The lesson some people refuse to learn is spending on Public services raises £000.00 in profits and billions in losses, so if private enterprise can't pay for it. The country has to.

Greece is another example of how stupid that philosophy is.

So to defeat Jeremy is the prime concern. It has to be someone who can rally support and speak to the people.

It's true. He literally drives a 1994 Ford Escort and was complaining one day that he couldn't afford a new heater core for it. His wife weighs over 300lbs and supports his lazy dumb ass.

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Which politician isn't a bumbling self obsessed narcissistic twat? That description could be anyone of many. Most certainly it wasn't something I would describe May as, she was just obstinate and dumb to the point of why weren't the rest of the party aware of it before they voted her in?

Trying to pick a leader out of the lot is pretty hard unless you're looking for someone to bankrupt the country by spending more than it can pay back, or giving in to big corporations or the EU.

Nigel Farage is the only politician to make a mark in the 21st century and he wouldn't work as too many are against him. His only plus point is he would get a deal out of the EU or walk away.

Farage ???

A one trick pony with one answer for every thing.

What would Farage do with the NHS, would he increase funding or move more to the private sector ?

What is his answer to inner city knife crime ?

How does Farage feel about building social housing to meet the demands of a growing population ?

What are the Farage policy objectives regarding an ageing population ? Will he cut the state pension or raise the entitlement age ? How will he fund long term care for the elderly ?

Thats the problem with the silly pub bore politics of the populist. The difficult complex problems that real politicians have to try fix are not wished away by blaming the fucking EU.

Jesus. I am debating politics with Markham.

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Leaving the EU without a deal will be a disaster for thousands of UK businesses. It will also be a disaster for the government of the day as they see their tax receipts reduced and costs increased dramatically.

I however will see the profitability of my company increase. No deal means no EU VAT treaty and the vast sums my EU based company pays to the UK HMRC will cease.

So leaving the EU in the manner the Brexit nutters want will make me rich yet bankrupt the country.

It will also see the company formation agents in Dublin, Amsterdam, Cyprus, Luxembourg, etc rushed off their feet. A fucking boom town as every company currently selling non tangible goods to UK end users simply relocates their operations with a few clicks of the mouse.

So yes I think the EU has delivered 70 years of peace, stability, rising living standards, improved healthcare, all of the workplace entitlements and benefits we now enjoy, limits to the working week from the working time directive, rights for women in the workplace, and lots of other basic fundamental rights that you dismiss in the populist rants of the likes of Farage. The EU did more to help and fund the rebuilding of Liverpool, Sheffield, Newcastle etc etc after Thatcher and the Tories washed their hands of the North post miners strike.

This does not mean I love the EU or think it is perfect, I just have a grown up view of the world. Farage et al will have you believe that the UK is about to embark on a new industrial revolution. Bring back the empire ffs. When the reality is Brexit will completely fuck up the country, and the poor suckers from the working class areas will suffer the worst. Its like red necks voting for MAGA and thinking the Billionaire Orange baboon is on their side.

You could not make it up.

So he's got no idea how to solve these problems, just like every other politician. So he'll fit in great with the other bunch of losers.

Getting a grip on immigration is one way of solving problems. Those who really add to the community of the UK in a way that doesn't burden the country with more welfare payments would help. Getting people off the welfare system by offering them jobs that don't need taxpayers to subsidise their wage packets or pay their rant would help. This puts more money into people's pockets and more money into tax revenues and reduces welfare payments. Allowing government more money to fund areas that need funding.

Removing all welfare to migrants until they have been in the UK for 5 or more years and contributed into the system would also help.

Privatising the Health service is a stupid idea. There is no way a privately owned company can run it cheaper that a Nationalised organisation. The problem is the layers of bureaucracy that comes with a nationalised organisation. Get rid of those layers so only essential layers are required would help.

The same goes for education. Too many exams, too many bureaucrats with no teaching experience telling professionals how they should teach.

Cutting down on immigration of cultures who have large families would also help the housing, welfare, NHS, etc crisis.

But as you point out the population is continuing to grow and the politicians we have do nothing to slow it down and actually speed up the problem. Because they are no better and some a lot worse than Farage.

Yes I would love to debate these points with you. Are you up for it? Without resorting to the fact that I migrated to Czech and obtained a Residence and Business license before Czech joined the EU? And that I'm pro migration of people who bring something to their new country.

Your previous post pointed out all the problems the EU has brought to the UK. You can't have it two ways unless you think stability, rising living standards, improved healthcare, only apply to other countries.

The peace you claim is due to the EU is bullshit. The EU is only 25 years old, there was no political unity before then, peace is down to USSR and Putin being on our doorstep, disarming Germany and France, Nato, US and the Nuclear bombs.

As for workplace entitlements etc. The migration of millions of low skilled and non skilled EU workers has meant a deterioration in wages and an increase in part time and zero hours contracts. An excess of unemployed has made employers the top dogs in negotiations and an increase in people relying on welfare. Poland blocked Cameron's plan to introduce a minimum period migrants had to be in work before they become eligible for benefits.

The EU is on course to rule from the centre. Something that few Common Market countries voted for, Eire, France and Denmark voted against it, the UK would have voted against it if Blair had held a referendum as he promised. He didn't when he know he would lose. I'm all for the Common Market something that most of the prosperity most claim is a result of the EU. It isn't. All the other pluses are things individual countries could achieve without rule from the centre.

Lastly with Thatcher and the North. The only businesses Thatcher could close is those who were reliant on tax payers money to stave off bankruptcy. No business man closes or doesn't open a business because a PM closes a few.

Whether the South East should fund loss making industries in the North is a question you have to answer before blaming Thatcher. Closing those businesses created a large workforce, yet businesses do not go there and not because of a railway getting there 1 hour sooner. Most freight is moved by road these days. Check trucks on the motorways and count the European trucks to see how getting to Manchester in an hour less will effect business.

Company formation agents in Dublin, Amsterdam, Cyprus, Luxembourg, etc. Will be single offices and that won't effect their manufacturing plants. Companies that risk moving their entire operation to Europe because of Brexit are gambling that the UK and Britain will never do a trade deal. That won't happen.

The UK will have the entire world to trade with and on their terms. There is the problem. If they allow open door trade deals to the Third World they risk losing more manufacturing, R&D, Science, Technology and eventually everything the UK has to places where workers are on 20% to 10% of a British wage. Another factor of where businesses go to do business.

Paul, he's not coming at it from a philosophical or economic starting point.

He's coming from a completely different place. White man bad.

Just what the world needs, another fat slob who isn't fit to run anything

+ fucking 1

What was your last nic that got thrown out of this forum ?


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Oppotten ??? was that it ?


You Sir dont even have the mental capacity of the cows in my field. Dont you dare try and debate politics or economics here. You are the archetypal one trick pony. IT IS DER DEWS !!!

Fucking idiot.

He's following the propaganda too close and not looking at it from a logical point. All the problems the UK has are ones that have developed while in the EU and subject to EU laws.

Will you debate with me?

Or will you use the same get out?

Boris is by no means a great leader, but who is?

The only thing Corbyn has going for him is he will spend, spend, spend until the country's back in the mess it was when Brown was kicked out.

Leaving the people he spent it on without a bill and the people slightly above that paying off the bills. Which is why few people with something to lose will vote for him. The rest of Labour are also pretty useless.

Boris is one of the best of a poor bunch. This is the problem with politicians these days. They're not very good at their jobs and giving power over to the EU only means the politicians in the EU are further away from the people. Look at the current leaders and pick a winner. The biggest danger is the countries who take out funds will rule from inside Brussels and the countries who contribute will be subservient to them every time they vote.

see you talking about logic is kind of very funny.

a British vote in the EU elections is worth 7% that of a Luxembourger’s vote

"Every single one of the 73 British MEPs will each be representing an electorate which is
more than double that of the entire electorate of the country of Luxembourg."

This is what passes for democracy in the EU.

So tell me where I'm wrong or shut the fuck up.

The second or third largest contributor to the budget has 7% of the vote.

Look at how the votes are spread between the countries who give and those who take.

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/resour...8_original.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dn8CC4LXsAE2MoR.jpg

Check out the population of countries like Malta, Luxembourg etc and the votes they get. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._by_population

Which side holds the power?

Who will hold the balance as the EU enlarges?

Is the deciding country Luxembourg?

too much where you are wrong. i better tell you where you are right:

NOWHERE !

After giving you facts, you have no argument. Welcome to my ignore list.

i don´t know how many arguments from me and all the others you simply ignored.

so don´t come up with this right wing shit by just ignoring arguments and then say there are no.

you are an old dumbfuck and it does not make sense to discuss anything with you as your IQ-level is lower than the temperature in my fridge.

go on to call out for the dictatorship of the dumbs - it will not happen anyway.

Bumping this to help Newnick get into a reasonable debate with me.

Dig up the Iron Lady she will kick them into shape :thumbsup:thumbsup

The world needs more populism to answer such metaphysical questions such as are “who are we as a nation”

so wheres the mother fucking MAGA?...UK brexited...freedom and shit...

where...is...the...motherfucking...MAGA? <-------- legit question....

no MAGA??!?! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

suckers LOL

Paul I have no intention of debating with you. You are a frightful hypocrite who never listens to a word anyone says.

Your walls of text are legendary, but your ability to grasp complex issues, not so much.

that isn't a metaphysical question... and the answer to that question for hundreds of years in western nations is a nation that will stand up to tyranny and do all within their power to let their nation along with others prosper.

You lose countries in the EU to fend for themselves what happens? They get lured into opposing countries, they falter and dictators make a run for power then what happens at that point? Having a united front protects against that. The UK leaving doesn't change that, it just leaves them less united and weakens the process.

If russia wasn't run by people with serious pride issues then they would join as well and prosper like many of the nations within the EU. But they insist on spending their money on their nuclear program and to be a constant threat instead and MOST of their people suffer in poverty for it.

I'd have bet you'd write that. ;-)

short - simple - true !

they have never thought why russia is trying toi break this union.
because THEY lost power when their union broke. they try to tell the west it is not good to be in a union and in the meantime the will do all to become a union again.

and for this they do not even need weapons or an army. they found their army in the dumbs in the west. the dumbs are happy to make someone else guilty for their own incapacity. this is why they are so easy victims.