Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22793824)

Bullshit. You know that is a lie.

I will not participate in this discussion beyond that and you know why. It amazes me that you would bring it up here though. You have no honor and even less dignity. You are scum.

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Originally Posted by beaner (Post 22793799)

or as sara likes to say... retarder

Originally Posted by beaner (Post 22793831)

cheater,,,,:2 cents:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 53761)

The code you showed me was my code, straight and simple. You said you had a programmer recreate my script. What you showed me was not a re-creation, it was my code including my mistakes and my comments.

The server side-back end of your script I could not see and on this particular script does not matter much, all the action was in the front end, in the layout and the javascript, and the version of that that you showed me was written by me.

I don't think I said that any one stole anything, if I did it was way into the conversation after you refused to acknowledge that I was looking at my own code, shitty as it is.

Originally Posted by sarettah

I am not going to go and try to compare all my code against yours. I changed some of the code quite a bit between then and now. But I will compare a couple of things to prove my point.

Whoever put that together for you used the code that was live at the time, not the downloaded script. I had made a couple of changes that were picked up in the code you used.

From my October 22 - 2014 backup of camfoxes (I have changed the code a lot since then so had to go to a back up) from main.js - the loadit function:

From your site's functions.js.pagespeed.jm.2VpSPJnG2I.js file just a few minurtes ago.

On yours, some of the variable names have been changed and the function was renamed to loadwindow() instead of loadit().

But here are the tells that that came from my site.

1. The url being (refurl on yours, url2use on mine) is pulling from chaturbate without an affiliate reference. I did that to get around the adblockers for my popup windows.

2. The function input variable names are the same. urlin,userin,namein,chaturl. If 2 programmers did the coding there would be different variable names, in different orders and they probably would not end up using the same number of pass ins.

3. The big long stacked if..then..else. Most programmers would not do that. Most would use a case structure (switch statement in php) or an elseif structure instead of stacking them like that. That is a nasty habit I have when I am doing things up quick.

4. The order of the statements within the function are identical. This would not happen if there were 2 different programmers here.

5. The innerHTML sections being written are virtually identical. Again, this would not happen with 2 different coders.

6. The hideshow() function being called is one that is also in my javascript. Very basic but I named it hideshow(), I don't know that 2 programmers would have come up with the same name.

So, your programmer (in this part) changed a couple of division names and a variable name. The rest of that is mine. That is not the only example of it I can come up with. And I already know that you are going to say, oh, well that is just a snippet or some such. Doesn't matter. You told me that you had a programmer recreate my site from scratch and that is not true.

Oh and yours has 4 popup window, at one point I had a version with 4, a version with 6 and a version with 1, so I don't know if they added that div in there or if it was in there when they grabbed the copy to work from.

I did not care then and I really do not now (except you called me a liar). As you said, I gave the script away for free. I stand by what I said though, nobody wrote your version from scratch, they used mine as the base. I know my fucking code when I see it.

Enough said. I don't want to play these games with you Mark, I had left that conversation alone and at the end of the part about code I did try to give you any insight that I could (if you recall) So, you can go ahead and hold a grudge about absolutely nothing if you want to, I don't do shit that way.

Originally Posted by beaner (Post 53771)

here is what I did, and also what I told you I did...

You offered your script, for free, and instead of taking you up on said script I asked a programmer to re-script your code, from scratch, to exactly mimick your site because it was doing well on google with no back links.

I was 100% upfront about that and you turned it around and said I stole your code then denied I stole your code. I did exactly what I said "above" and I never downloaded your script, and the person who coded it doesn't belong to this forum. I simply said... something is up with this model, and try to mimick it. Here is what it does... basically simply scrape chaturbate in a fashion that doesn't seem like it is being scraped.

Originally Posted by beaner (Post 22793839)

show me the evidence Sara!

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22793843)

If you spent a minute or 2 reading you would realize that the evidence has been posted.

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22793843)

If you spent a minute or 2 reading you would realize that the evidence has been posted.

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Originally Posted by beaner (Post 22793846)

There is no real evidence, you have no standing, and i'll have to say you have failed.

I'm fairly certain anyone can re-engineer a site and see what's up... your model is failing bigly though. It is no good

And I told the programmer to download your script and I gave your URL as a reference... it actually seems to me that you purposely put an open source script that wouldn't rank so you could seem like you were doing something helpful to the "community".

Looking at it again it looks like you were just trying to gaslight your peers

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22793848)

Oh, just fuck off.

You can look at the code at camfoxes right now and still see that the original base code is there.

you can then check Google and Semrush and wherever else you want to and see that Camfoxes is still on the first page for some of the same terms it was. It still makes me a pretty regular 2-3k a month.

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Originally Posted by beaner (Post 22793850)

you gave an open script source code to others that would never rank.

... and you did it on purpose

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22793855)

Just because you could not replicate the results does not make me a cheater or a liar. It does, however, make you incompetent.

And stupider.

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Originally Posted by beaner (Post 22793858)

i'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you actually provided code that helped somebody.

can they post here that your chaturbate code made anyone money?

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22793859)

Anybody can post anything they want.

I have no idea what money people made or didn't make. I never released the code on gfy, it was released where it was released for a reason, because of what the place it was posted was supposed to be.

I do know that there are people on GFY that have made bank as a result of code and advice I gave them. They have stated so in various threads.

You have tonight violated an oath by making the thread and comments that you did.

As I said, you have no honor or dignity and tonight you have proven it beyond any doubt. You could care less what promises you made to a community. The only other poster that I know of that has done that was Venusblogger so that puts you on his level as to what kind of person you are. Piriod.

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Originally Posted by beaner (Post 22793860)

Sara... that is because I consider you a traitor. Your words for months are very unpatriotic and I, and many others, won't put up with your bullshit. I simply called out your stunt to try and provide people with code to rank on chaturbate and your code was inherently flawed... meaning noboby would rank with your code.

Originally Posted by beaner (Post 22793864)

and what does that show exactly? How does that relate to bunghole code?

Originally Posted by beaner (Post 22793866)

and why do you have a spike in traffic in the middle of the month?

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 22793959)

I still preferred sarettahs posting back when she poosted as saraswirls...

Why the name change hun? Its confusing....

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22793862)

https://www.madspiders.com/images/semrush12222020.jpg

https://www.madspiders.com/images/gq12222020.jpg

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Originally Posted by Pink24 (Post 22793963)

Nice stats. How the fuck do you do that?

Or is it paid traffic?

Originally Posted by csnmf (Post 22793962)

Just goes to show no good deed goes unpunished. You provide a script for free for people to use and only brings you trouble. Meanwhile im paying my dev alot more than 0 to build my custom whitelabel.

I'm new to the adult niche but spent many years internet marketing in different niches and adult is certainly toxic.

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 22793991)

Who is Sara?

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 22793959)

I still preferred sarettahs posting back when she poosted as saraswirls...

Why the name change hun? Its confusing....

Originally Posted by csnmf (Post 22793929)

I am not a coder. But what does code have to do with ranking? If the code works in terms of loading the cams, it works, it is not flawed. Coding and ranking are two different things.

I am paying a dev to build a cam site for me, his job is to make it function correctly, not for it to rank. It's my job to rank the thing.

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22793956)

Thank you mods for putting this in the main forum where it belongs. Much appreciated.

For anybody just joining, a little history.

In January, 2014, in a different place, someone asked "how do you make a cam site from Chaturbate's API?" (or something ot that effect).

I put together a quick little script. Bought a domain, Put the script up. Tuned it a touch and then presented it to that forum as an answer to the question. I put up a zip file of the code so people could grab it and use it.

I answered whatever questions people had about it and helped whoever wanted to use it install it on their servers.

I then moved forward with other stuff and just kind of forgot about it.

Move forward 6 months and all of a sudden I am seeing traffic. When I check, I find that I am in the number 1,2 or 3 position on google for a shitload of good cam keywords.

A while later, people hit me up with questions about how I am getting it ranked. I answered quite truthfully that I have no idea.

Then Beanboy hits me up and tells me that he had his programmer create a site like mine from scratch and it didn't seem to be ranking, could I take a look and provide insight into why. I took a look and what I saw was my code. I informed him that his programmer had not coded it from scratch and a conversation occurred that resulted in him claiming I said he stole my code. I did not claim that. I claimed his programmer bullshitted him.

Move forward 2 years and Beanboy is on a rave (still in the other place) and he brings this up and the conversation that I quoted above, with the code comparison ensued.

Beaner then brought it up again yesterday, in the politics section and this is the thread he created there that I asked the mods to move here because it is most definitely a business discussion and should not be hidden away in the politics section.

So, that is the history behind this conversation.

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