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Shap 10-10-2007 08:50 AM

Here is a breakdown of how much of our traffic has spyware! (Stats included)
 
Hey Guys. We just went thru our logs and here is the breakdown of spyware traffic we found going to our site today.

Zango 0.75%
Seekmo 0.82%
hbtools 0.37%
hotbar 0.28%
peoplepal 0.16%

Those are the top five. I'm going to research some more to see what else i find. So far it looks like at the very bare minimum 2% of our traffic is infected.

Anybody else have any results to share?

RP Fade 10-10-2007 08:54 AM

We're tracking as we speak...results shortly.

Shap 10-10-2007 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by RP Fade (Post 13215221)
We're tracking as we speak...results shortly.

I'm going to track our free sites and hosted gals now as well to see what the difference would be.

Shap 10-10-2007 09:09 AM

HOLY SHIT.

4.6% of our traffic has funweb

fuzebox 10-10-2007 09:10 AM

I remember reading that most Zango infected computers don't actually reveal this in the User-Agent header string, only if they have a certain feature turned on.

12clicks 10-10-2007 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 13215201)
Hey Guys. We just went thru our logs and here is the breakdown of spyware traffic we found going to our site today.

Zango 0.75%
Seekmo 0.82%
hbtools 0.37%
hotbar 0.28%
peoplepal 0.16%

Those are the top five. I'm going to research some more to see what else i find. So far it looks like at the very bare minimum 2% of our traffic is infected.

Anybody else have any results to share?

so you ADMIT to accepting spyware traffic!




I had to be the first one with that. :winkwink:

Axeman 10-10-2007 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 13215278)
HOLY SHIT.

4.6% of our traffic has funweb

Holy shit, I've never even heard of them. DAMN.

Sosa 10-10-2007 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 13215278)
HOLY SHIT.

4.6% of our traffic has funweb

gotta love all those smileys !

RP Fade 10-10-2007 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 13215241)
I'm going to track our free sites and hosted gals now as well to see what the difference would be.

Yeah..good idea. I'll have Mike look into that as well.

Shap 10-10-2007 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 13215292)
so you ADMIT to accepting spyware traffic!




I had to be the first one with that. :winkwink:

lol. Yeah apparently i am. It's even worse on our members traffic.

Since Midnight here is the percentage of file requests that had the following companies in the user agent info.
funweb 14%
Zango 2.6%
seeko 1.1%
hbtools 0.2%
hotbar 1%

Right now the test is on file requests so it may be skewed in the members area if someone with it downloads the entire site. Still 19% is insane.

HS-Trixxxia 10-10-2007 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 13215201)
Hey Guys. We just went thru our logs and here is the breakdown of spyware traffic we found going to our site today.

Zango 0.75%
Seekmo 0.82%
hbtools 0.37%
hotbar 0.28%
peoplepal 0.16%

Those are the top five. I'm going to research some more to see what else i find. So far it looks like at the very bare minimum 2% of our traffic is infected.

Anybody else have any results to share?

Your other enemy, if I may add - are the 'codec' installers - probably doing more damage.

Here's why - they look legit and are on free galleries. Surfer sees that he's missing a codec - he can 'hear' the moaning but can'T see the action or he can't hear or see anything but the thumb was DAMN good. Anyhow... they install this codec and THEN the traffic belongs to them.

What they do is:
Overwrite affiliate codes - they will hijack on the join form.
You find something suspicious and shut down the account? They send this traffic, which is destined for you (or your galleries) to a 'fake trading site' and then either resell this traffic to search engines OR to traffic companies. Fucking you over twice when you're buying the traffic at a higher cost.

polish_aristocrat 10-10-2007 09:25 AM

shap, zango is pretty known here, but what do the other spyware programs do?

Shap 10-10-2007 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat (Post 13215351)
shap, zango is pretty known here, but what do the other spyware programs do?

No clue yet. Just gathering the data now.

tranza 10-10-2007 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 13215328)
lol. Yeah apparently i am. It's even worse on our members traffic.

Since Midnight here is the percentage of file requests that had the following companies in the user agent info.
funweb 14%
Zango 2.6%
seeko 1.1%
hbtools 0.2%
hotbar 1%

Right now the test is on file requests so it may be skewed in the members area if someone with it downloads the entire site. Still 19% is insane.

Wow, that's just insane!!

:(

rvincent 10-10-2007 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 13215201)
Anybody else have any results to share?

tell me which regex you used to match each spyware and I'll be able to share similar stats from my program...

Shap 10-10-2007 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HS-Trixxxia (Post 13215344)
Your other enemy, if I may add - are the 'codec' installers - probably doing more damage.

Here's why - they look legit and are on free galleries. Surfer sees that he's missing a codec - he can 'hear' the moaning but can'T see the action or he can't hear or see anything but the thumb was DAMN good. Anyhow... they install this codec and THEN the traffic belongs to them.

What they do is:
Overwrite affiliate codes - they will hijack on the join form.
You find something suspicious and shut down the account? They send this traffic, which is destined for you (or your galleries) to a 'fake trading site' and then either resell this traffic to search engines OR to traffic companies. Fucking you over twice when you're buying the traffic at a higher cost.

Do you know of any examples that I could download and try myself?

polish_aristocrat 10-10-2007 09:32 AM

I just checked - seekmo is zango

http://www.seekmo.com/partnerwithseekmo.aspx

Are you a webmaster or do you have content like games and videos to publish? Partner with Seekmo to earn cash and give your users a satisfying, free content experience! Go to Zangocash.com where you can learn more about our partner programs and sign up to start earning now.

Shap 10-10-2007 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rvincent (Post 13215385)
tell me which regex you used to match each spyware and I'll be able to share similar stats from my program...

he just ran
grep -ci "seekmo" /path/to/your-access.log


on each of the different spyware. funweb, zango, etc

Shap 10-10-2007 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat (Post 13215405)
I just checked - seekmo is zango

http://www.seekmo.com/partnerwithseekmo.aspx

Are you a webmaster or do you have content like games and videos to publish? Partner with Seekmo to earn cash and give your users a satisfying, free content experience! Go to Zangocash.com where you can learn more about our partner programs and sign up to start earning now.

I believe they may all be zango but just the different names it's distributed under.

HS-Trixxxia 10-10-2007 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 13215394)
Do you know of any examples that I could download and try myself?

I uninstalled it last night cuz when I wanted to download Zango, it was giving me a blank page for zango, although I could reach it fine from my other computers... hehehe funny, the fuckers don't want other fuckers to fuck with their traffic...

Anyhow - Zango cut my connection - wonder how they will bounce me around if I can't connect to the internet anymore??

Just uninstalled Zango so I could connect to the net and once I can, I will email it to you if you want.

Once I figure out how to fix my dns settings...

Shap 10-10-2007 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by HS-Trixxxia (Post 13215444)
I uninstalled it last night cuz when I wanted to download Zango, it was giving me a blank page for zango, although I could reach it fine from my other computers... hehehe funny, the fuckers don't want other fuckers to fuck with their traffic...

Anyhow - Zango cut my connection - wonder how they will bounce me around if I can't connect to the internet anymore??

Just uninstalled Zango so I could connect to the net and once I can, I will email it to you if you want.

Once I figure out how to fix my dns settings...

Sure that would be great tw-shap at twistys dot com

I was trying to run zango tests last night but had to give up. Zango has killed my computer. I can't even surf anymore. It takes 15 minutes to open IE

Ray@TastyDollars 10-10-2007 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by HS-Trixxxia (Post 13215344)
Your other enemy, if I may add - are the 'codec' installers - probably doing more damage.

Yepp, a ton more damage. Id say a good 20% of all TGP traffic surfers are infected with this shit in their machines.

Anyone notice how TGP traffic hit the shitter the past few months?

Oh and they stared passing this shit around with mailers as well. Thats a LOT of traffic folks.

Read more about it here
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=720781

Ray

Roald 10-10-2007 09:44 AM

we checked this some while ago for zango alone and had like 0.7% on our main.

This shit is a serious problem.

And I agree with Trixxxia about the codec crap, we had some guys targeting freeones in the serps and then come up with the codec crap. All going to the same french (if I am correct) aff. program, obviously they never responded to the complaints showing they just don't give a shit (duhhh). The program is gone already (videoscash) and probably running under another name now.

Shit like this makes me sad :(

Roald 10-10-2007 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 13215457)
Sure that would be great tw-shap at twistys dot com

I was trying to run zango tests last night but had to give up. Zango has killed my computer. I can't even surf anymore. It takes 15 minutes to open IE

wouldn't that actually be a good thing? When the shit fucks up your browser that bad, maybe they will be more carefull installing toolbar crap the next time.

Shap 10-10-2007 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by QuaShe (Post 13215486)
wouldn't that actually be a good thing? When the shit fucks up your browser that bad, maybe they will be more carefull installing toolbar crap the next time.

Yep I agree.

GonZo 10-10-2007 09:48 AM

Them rogue affiliates sure have been busy!

Are they kin to the rogue programmers from last year that used copyrighted images for some of the tours?

I dont expect an answer though. Im sure all the people involved blacked out and dont remember a thing . . . and you thought tossing a chair at guys from 10 stories up was wild...

HS-Trixxxia 10-10-2007 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 13215457)
Sure that would be great tw-shap at twistys dot com

I was trying to run zango tests last night but had to give up. Zango has killed my computer. I can't even surf anymore. It takes 15 minutes to open IE

For me, it's screwed up all my DNS and I can't seem to renew it or anything of the sort.

TampaToker 10-10-2007 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 13215457)
Sure that would be great tw-shap at twistys dot com

I was trying to run zango tests last night but had to give up. Zango has killed my computer. I can't even surf anymore. It takes 15 minutes to open IE

Funny you said my ie all shot to hell as well....

Quickdraw 10-10-2007 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HS-Trixxxia (Post 13215444)
I uninstalled it last night cuz when I wanted to download Zango, it was giving me a blank page for zango, although I could reach it fine from my other computers... hehehe funny, the fuckers don't want other fuckers to fuck with their traffic...

Anyhow - Zango cut my connection - wonder how they will bounce me around if I can't connect to the internet anymore??

Just uninstalled Zango so I could connect to the net and once I can, I will email it to you if you want.

Once I figure out how to fix my dns settings...

You just 'uninstalled' the zlob?

will76 10-10-2007 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 13215278)
HOLY SHIT.

4.6% of our traffic has funweb

funwebproducts hits about 5 - 10% of my traffic

Shap 10-10-2007 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 13215525)
funwebproducts hits about 5 - 10% of my traffic

Any idea who they are or how bad they are messing with traffic?

yys 10-10-2007 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuaShe (Post 13215486)
wouldn't that actually be a good thing? When the shit fucks up your browser that bad, maybe they will be more carefull installing toolbar crap the next time.

The problem is that if they are stupid enough to install these programs they are probably too dense to figure out what is causing their computer to run like shit.

Probably the exact kind of surfer who is more likely to pay for their porn as well

Shap 10-10-2007 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yys (Post 13215543)
The problem is that if they are stupid enough to install these programs they are probably too dense to figure out what is causing their computer to run like shit.

I agree with that as well. I've seen that with family members. No idea how it showed up. All they know is their computer is slow as shit.

Roald 10-10-2007 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 13215533)
Any idea who they are or how bad they are messing with traffic?

http://www.sophos.com/security/analyses/funweb.html

* Displays pop-up advertising
* Modifies browser settings
* Installs adware
* Installs a browser toolbar

Roald 10-10-2007 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yys (Post 13215543)
The problem is that if they are stupid enough to install these programs they are probably too dense to figure out what is causing their computer to run like shit.

Probably the exact kind of surfer who is more likely to pay for their porn as well

yeah probably

fuzebox 10-10-2007 10:07 AM

Looks like 0.5% of my gallery traffic is tagged with zango.

Shap 10-10-2007 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 13215591)
Looks like 0.5% of my gallery traffic is tagged with zango.

Which is similar to what we see. But check out funweb

yys 10-10-2007 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 13215548)
I agree with that as well. I've seen that with family members. No idea how it showed up. All they know is their computer is slow as shit.

My exact experience with relatives and friends. You format the computer and reinstall everything for them and then you get a call a week later that their computer isn't working properly and you must have done something wrong. When you boot up out pops a purple guerrilla or some other form of adware/spyware.

I was over at one friends parents house and I shit you not, they had about 5 tool bars on their browser eating up half of the laptop screen.

Roald 10-10-2007 10:09 AM

not sure how funweb works but I read here and there that they show popups and I am pretty sure that if they do so you can bid on certain words to to trigger it. hm

Roald 10-10-2007 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by yys (Post 13215599)
My exact experience with relatives and friends. You format the computer and reinstall everything for them and then you get a call a week later that their computer isn't working properly and you must have done something wrong. When you boot up out pops a purple guerrilla or some other form of adware/spyware.

I was over at one friends parents house and I shit you not, they had about 5 tool bars on their browser eating up half of the laptop screen.

lol my girl likes to play some online games every now and then and after that I have to spend my time again removing the crap she installed "just to play the game" Like you said, internet stupidity


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