TGP's and free porn?
 

what would happen if all the sponsors stopped excepting TGP traffic untill it got censored or cleaned up some like no hardcore or showing pink ?

Then maybe we would all take a little hit for a short period but we would clean things up then conversions and reaccuring would pick back up.
In the long run this would benefit all of us for many reasons

Like conversions,chargebacks,cancels,reaccuring

Why should people stay a member and join or not cancel trials
when they can jack off with out paying a dime

let me bump this up for you....

shemp

Perhaps Pornkings should be the first to step up to the plate?

Ok, what kind of traffic would you want? There's only so many different sources, and most of them involve showing free porn. Or am I wrong?

Search engine and AVS are really the only two sources I can think of. I'm sure I'm missing something though...

can someone tell me how this guy gets away with it?

http://www.blondeangels.6x.to

And who cares about better conversions if you can't send the same amount of traffic? Remember Roger, it's all about the bottom line... :winkwink:

Well, I fully support the motion myself and I would love to see the sponsors step up to do this, unfortunately, I think someone will break down. If all the big boys agreed to ban TGP traffic, then the smaller sponsors would start accepting it and start growing. Unless you have the support of everyone, this won't work. The TGP's would literally lose so much money that they'll be forced to take any sponsor that's willing to take the traffic and hence it will break down.

I wish this would happen, but realistically, I don't think it will ever be possible.

WG

It's a great idea in Theory, but as a sponsor how would you carry it out, other than canning webmasters for posting hardcore and not paying them...That I'm thinking, wouldn't go over to well??

Am I missing something?

Roger,

great idea, me and others been saying it for along time, but will it end. Nope don't think so..

It's ok to give a tease away, but not the whole orgasm:))

peace

I think RogerV is heading in the right direction..

The ONLY way this would work is..

If the large TGP's stop accepting hardcore galleries and only shown softcore like RogerV mention, then the ratio of signups/convertions would increase naturally. If the surfer wants to see the good stuff, then the surfer need to pay. Member retention would increase, TGP owners would get paid more (more signups), and on a differant note.. maybe the government would get off our ass a bit because we are "trying to clean up the adult internet"..

But you really need the backing of guys like Shemp, Ampland, Hun, and WorldSex..

You get those guys to do it.. Victory

If you really think about it, its a WIN WIN situation for everyone..

Everyone makes money..


Jason - CherryBucks

Cut off the supply and demand goes up. pay more etc.

It cleans things up and the traffic will be better targeted.

If all the sponsors do it It might work and we will all make more money for many more years.

Just ask your friends why they wouldn't pay for porn they will all tell you they can get it for free.

Watch what happens when surfers can't get anymore free porn

but most people only care about how much traffic who cares if they don't pay and they are under aged.
the traffic might drop a little if it were softcore but the conversions will get better and so will the retention.

Its just better for us in the long run

We need to start focusing on the savvy surfers not just newb's

I have the answer to this and Im nearly finished the programeing and It will work this time because it will make alot of money for the tgp owner unlike other attemps. We can make alot more money slow down free porn and lower BW if you wish to know more ICQ me. 77762980

Trust me when i step up to plate it won't just be me.

I'm not saying get rid of tgp's just make them softcore only tits no pink.
the traffic might drop a little but conversions would go up

I'm not saying get rid of them just tease the surfer not give them the whole cake

Ahhh, yes. I understand now. I already do that. :)

Good to hear :thumbsup

I don't want it to sound like I'm whoreing my shit out but I do have some thoughts....

It's impossible to just expect the big TGP owners to change their ways. They need incentive which is what I tried to do with Diabolical Galleries. I'm giving the TGP owner 50% of my gallery designs... so he's willing to accept galleries that he normally would NEVER accept. It's a trade off cuz I started building galleries like Roger suggested... with less and less of the good shots. Even my hadcore galleries don't show any penetration... and they wouldn't get listed... but now the same gallery is everywhere.

An example
And even this gallery is too much I think. There is only 1 pussy shot with no pink and one penetration shot with the dildo but it's from a distance... and would be just enough to frustrate me into clicking thru...
:winkwink:

i wanna force all the savvy surfers to kazza ;)

Captain P, when are you guys going to put pics on HTML pages?

You just have to look at the gallery captain P posted in another thread. If you follow a few of the links, you'll find this page:

http://www.bangels.host.sk/main.php

1282 pics in just 6 galleries.

Just like anything else cut off the supply and the demand will go up.

Just show them enough to get them to pay on a trial and stick around. with all the shit out there they realize they can get it all for free.

If you can jack off to it then it's all pointless

I think having hardcore sponser companies stop paychecks to anyone who has a hardcore gallery is a GREAT IDEA, especially since I don't sell hardcore pics with the hardcore galleries I have. That way I'll have the only true free hardcore galleries out there. Please try and get this idea off the ground. Please please please please please please please please.

I suggest to buy all the traffic from The Hun for 24 hours and see if their's a difference in the signup. Then we would have some proof and reference... and this is possible :)

::cough:: ::cough::

http://teen.sexplanets.com/superboycd/index.htm

http://www.blondeangels.6x.to

it's not possible to buy all the hun's traffic. Cybercat represents me as well and I know this for a fact. TheHUn has some strict rules about who he posts - including paid galleries.

I think all TGPs should do this:
1. Throw the TGPs away.
2. Redirect ALL traffic to a new PaySite that offers every niche.
3. Track traffic w/ referral IDs.
4. Payout via referral ID tracking.

Call the colaboration "TGPSinc".

And put up a HUGE notice on the previous TGP stating:
"PAY FOR YOUR PORN YOU FUCKERS!"

OR

You could just all ONLY accept advertisment posts... No galleries.
If there's a NUDE pic on the page... decline/banned! You could write a bot that scans the post for images with flesh and pink tones, on images that are larger than 468x60/80.

yup

You should have come to Flordia for Internext. It was a blast. I stayed with mark and parney (they wouldn't let me stay anywhere else) and I pretty much lived in their pool. You comming to the one in Jan or will you be retired by then?

I think this topic has been on alot of people's minds lately. Here is an article we recently published...

http://www.webmastervault.com/tip-tgpchange.shtml

I know of 6 of the biggest sponsors who will back me and I can probably get most of them with some help. we just had a diner about tonight. two of the big sponsors

I will say this we need the TGP's we just need to mellow it out.
so the industry can survive.

Because its getting totally out of control. and If all the top 20 sponsors go with it. I'm sure the Large TGp's will back it. it would just mean more money for all of us.
It sure can't hurt trying!

give me about two weeks and I will have it all put together.
with the help of all the other sponsors if all goes well.

I already know sponsors who will raise there payouts if the traffic has no where else to go and retains longer.

make them pay to get off thats the bottom line.
the traffic might be a little less on tgp's but it will be worth much more. it takes everyone's help but it can be done

RogerV this sounds great!

Hi RogerV,

If you can really get the support of all the sponsors you mentioned (6 already and up to 20), then this is very possible. In fact, I wish you the absolute best in your attempt, it would be a valient effort from one of the big players to help bring this industry back to the good old days where we could convert 1:100 on TGP's....

My hats to you Roger.

PS: Will you be @ Island Gathering in 2 weeks? Not sure if you could get on the Epoch Jet, I just wanted to see...

WG

Wake me up when the revolution begins,

thanks guys,

shemp

there is always way too much speculation on this. Truth is, its never ever going to happen.

You know the reasons.

I was going on the Private jet but I think it has to go into get a C check or something so flying commercial.

I think I can get all the sponsors to back it. there would be no reason for them not to.
And I hope the Tgp's and Freehosts etc. help us out.

And if it fails well we fuckin tried but I don't think it will. all of us have been talking about it for a while now. its not a new topic and its about time.

Its not a witch hunt or good guys versus bad guys its about all of us working together to make more money in the long run.
and people wouldn't charge back knowing they would be able to join another site or get it free anywhere.

less people will cancel on trials and maybe even stick around a few more months till they move on to the next site. This will only help out all of us.

No I don't.
tell me what the reason is?

for the record are you against it or not and why?

If the sponsors don't pay the webmasters posting hardcore galleries or showing Pink on your TGP what are you gonna do?

Its up to them to clean it up right? Are you against this Idea

i don't understand your comments

I dont make major business decisions at 02:00 in the morning.
I have never asked anyone to submit a hardcore gallery to me, nor have I ever rejected a gallery for being too softcore. The galleries now are no more hardcore than they were 4 years ago.
I do know that there are many paysites out there owned by TGP owners. I have played by the rules of the game and have got a very small share of the TGP market. I think being dictated to by paysite owners of what constitutes a "good gallery" would not be well received. It would encourage me to send my traffic elsewhere, perhaps to those sites that remained TGP friendly.

But as i said, it is too late for major decisons, this requires more thought and a whole lot more consultation,

regards

shemp

Heheh you think we would have all these paysites poping up
if it wasnt for tgp ?
If we removed all tgp traffic we would see ALOT of paysites
go down to

I never said remove the TGP's I think we do need them.

I think we just need to clean up the TGP's and freehost etc.
and the only way to do it cut of the money supply. before Visa and MC cut us off because of all the credits and chargebacks.


So we can all increase our bottom line and make more. once the sponsors get it rolling you will have a complete break down of why it is beneficial it won't effect anyones traffic and revenue only increase it.