Question about the US elections for non US citizen.
 

As a non US citizen who would you like to see as the next President of the USA?

I think most of the non-Americans would like to see Obama win, but I can't show any data on it :)

What are the biggest factors for most of you?

For me it's War and the US dollar value as my income is in US dollar and as gone down a lot.

I think it's time for a Change and someone like Obama could be the right person to lead the USA towards a positive change.

If I could vote he'd get mine for sure. :thumbsup

Most of the Canadians that I speak with want Obama to win, but are scared that TheDevil (Hillary) or that nazi (McCain) will win solely because of the oh-so old colour issue.

I don;t give a shit about that buzz word 'change'. I want to see somebody in office other than a fossil and their old ways!


Wrong! A lot of German folks want anybody but Obama. The seem to have a knack for stay true to their old ways.

Sounds like a personal problem. I know mine has gone up significantly.

He isn't, and he already admitted it: https://youtube.com/v/4gexyfVpFMU

LOL I'm not talking about how much I make IDIOT i'm talking about how much I lose on the exchange.

Where you born this way or you just playing stupid???

lots changed in 4 years, my vote goes to Obama

I just hear him admitting that he felt he lacked experience in 2004, and because of that wasn't considering running for president back then.

I don't see where he says he doesn't presently feel he's the right person for the job.

From what I've gathered, I think he's come to believe (in the last 3 years) that the post doesn't have to be as political as it has been in the past.

IMHO, "Experience" isn't so much an issue as the ability to inspire the country right now. I don't see Hill-Dog or McCain bringing much in the way of unifying inspiration with them... just four more years of a divided country.

After Bush, everyone thinks they can run the country.

I don't see that Obama will unite people anymore than the other two. Democrats will love him, Republicans will hate him.

As a resident (non citizen) American, Canadian citizen living in the US, I really could give a shit who wins at this point.

All of this years candidates are lack lustre, seem to be the same old same old. I have a feeling McCain will win now that Nader has come in and will split up the Dem vote.

Who would I LIKE to see win? Why not Schwarzenegger? Let's repeal the US born law, and get him in office. It's a joke post these days anyway.

I have a feeling the Dem fuckups in the house will cause them to lose congress + senate next election which means the Repubs will take control. That means that IF a democrat wins president they will have NO way of passing anything they want and will appear to be a lame duck. So a 1 term president it will be.

Not sure, as a non-citizen its hard to say, because you cant vote you don't really think about it or at least I don't, I'm sure my choice would be different if I could vote, because I would probably look at the whole picture and take it more seriously.:2 cents:

Oh, so a year later he has enough experience?

Vote Harper!

He got less than 1/2 of 1% last time. Maybe he could throw a state. Dunno.

Bigger questions are bloomberg and paul who could actually throw some states

Paul? What state?

Wow and then critize other people for not being sharp. Can you read FUCKING ENGLISH?

What's the latest on Bloomberg? The last thing that I heard was that he would be making a decision on whether to go ahead full speed by the end of February. Who's got the 411 on this guy? :helpme
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Any close state (about 50/50) could be won or lost by a third party candidate taking just 1% more from one candidate that another. Which states will be that close in November? No idea.

A few days ago Paul pretty much sounded like he wouldn't run as an independent though.

Anyone who is not pro-war.

Three years later, man. The video that was played on CNN in your link is nearly 4 years old... and a lot can happen in that many years.

I think that a mark of great leadership potential is not wanting the post or feeling you're ready for the post, but taking the post because you honestly feel you're the best choice for those that you'll lead... and I get the vibe that's where Obama's head is at.

Perhaps "Experience" in D.C. is part of the problem.

Baddog has become quite the racist pig lately. (Maybe he always was and just didn't act like it until recently)

Any thread that has the word Obama in it must set off his board tracker because he always jumps right into them talking about how a black man can't get elected President in 2008.

Hey Lloyd, I know when you were growing up the colored people had to drink from different water fountains, but the world has changed, even though you haven't.

He did not throw his hat in the ring last week.

Fuck you idiot. Has nothing to do with race. I would not vote for him no matter what color he was.

The fact of the matter is, the only reason he is getting any attention is because he is black.

I'm surprised anyone overseas cares who would be the prez in America. I'm a U.S. citizen and I hardly lose any sleep over who runs the U.K., France, Italy, etc. I'm not even sure I could name them.

Anyhow, as this news story explains, the winner of the U.S. election has already been determined:

http://www.theonion.com/content/vide...dentally_leaks

:winkwink:

You're right. he did so a year ago.

Still... 2 years is plenty of time for peeps around him to go "wait a minute, bro... we want you, and the people need you, and we can do it - let's make it happen."

He might have thought he lacked the experience necessary for the job... for whatever reason, he changed his mind in those 2 years... either he realized he was qualified 2 years later, he realized that the post doesn't require as much as he first thought, or - most likely - some combination of both. It seems perfectly reasonable to me.

Funny how you do care about Cuba, North Korea, Venezuela, Iran ... and so on ... and these " folks " have not even invaded a country yet ..... :2 cents:

Nope...don't care about them...they are enemies of my country.

I have not been following US presidential elections, so I don't know. I would like to get educated if someone could be bothered to provide cliff notes on what are the candidates about.

Is there a strict, uncompromising anti war candidate running?

Dont bother with him. Hes an idiot for sure.

Of course not...no President of the USA can ever be anti war.

Did that answer your question?

You do understand that one party control is how this country got fucked up since Bush has been in office. Besides the President doesn't pass anything CONGRESS does. The President can veto it and even if the repubs take over Congress again they sure as hell won't have the 2/3 vote need to override a veto. So that means both sides will have to COMPROMISE. Kind of like they did they last few years of Clinton's term? Isn't that when we reduced spending and actually had a SURPLUS? Funny how things work themselves out when you have checks and balances.

Does it mean that regardless who wins, the US is gonna continue warring?

You got it...sport.

obama for most I think

So, it is your suggestion that if the elections were held today, and all the current candidates were just put on the ballot together, that at least 51% of the votes would go to Obama?

all im gonna say is...... you know the USA is crashing when there is a black guy and a woman running for prez......the terminator in office.... Im joking Im Joking. but still Im sure you guys can see why other countries are cashing in the American chips at this point. You guys set those stereotypes all on your own.....

You say this with a straight face and then call me an idiot? :1orglaugh

The fact that you think the ONLY reason he gets any attention, or votes, is because he's black, is the most ridiculous reverse racism fantasy I've ever seen.

Oh you poor old white man, nobody is voting for the white men, what's the world come to? :1orglaugh

The reality is his record and mistruths are about to get exposed and it may not be in time for the primary but come the GE, he is toast.

View on NAFTA given to Canadian Gov't vs what he says in Ohio
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/HTMLTempla...rchive=CTVNews

Background about how he was handed the sponsorship of the bills in the state senate his last year as Jones decided to make him a US Senator
http://www.houstonpress.com/2008-02-...reamed-at-me/1

Deception on his website saying he was a candidate for US Senator in 2002 when he made his anti war speach to give the impression he was more in the know and responsible. Deception to the vote since he didn't start his campaign until Jan 2003, 3 months after the Iraq vote took place in Oct of 02.
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/iraq/

And facts showing he didn't start running until 2003 as evidenced by his own websites articles as tracked down here:
http://www.oem.com.mx/diariodexalapa/notas/n597677.htm

Thats nothing to say about his championing his chairing of the Sub Committee and never once holding a hearing in the 13 months he has held the chair because he has been to busy on the campaign trail, even though this committee oversees the EU, NATO and its role in Afghanistan, something he outright criticizes and promises to fix! Inexcusable. If your too busy, then give up the chair and remove it from your resume.

There is a lot that is going to be coming out in the next while and its going to fry him. Whether its before the DNC convention or the GE in November, his boat will be on the way to the ocean floor.