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pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-10-2008 02:48 PM

For all you Obama haters .... how do you feel when facts make you look foolish
 
credit to OP on another forum

The following information gathered from the Library of Congress on the Legislative experience Junior Senator Hillary Clinton and Junior Senator Barack Obama. Please Feel free to check these records for yourself and draw your own conclusion.

Senator Clinton, who has served only one full term, which is 6 years and another year campaigning, has authored and passed 20 twenty pieces of legislation in her term of six years into law. These bills can be found at (wwwhomas.loc.gov). Senator Clinton has passed.

(1) Establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site.
(2) Support the goals and ideals of Better Hearing and Speech Month.
(3) Recognize the Ellis Island Medal of Honor.
(4) Name courthouse after Thurgood Marshall.
(5) Name courthouse after James L. Watson.
(6) Name post office after Jonn A. O?Shea.
(7) Designate Aug. 7, 2003, as National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
(8) Support the goals and ideals of National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
(9) Honor the life and legacy of Alexander Hamilton on the bicentennial of his death.
(10) Congratulate the Syracuse Univ. Orange Men?s Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
(11) Congratulate the Le Moyne College Dolphins Men?s Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
(12) Establish the 225th Anniversary of the American Revolution Commemorative Program.
(13) Name post office after Sergeant Riayan A. Tejeda.
(14) Honor Shirley Chisholm for her service to the nation and express condolences on her death.
(15) Honor John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford, firefighters who lost their lives on duty.

Only five of Clinton?s bills are, more substantive.
(16) Extend period of unemployment assistance to victims of 9/11.
(17) Pay for city projects in response to 9/11
(18) Assist landmine victims in other countries.
(19) Assist family caregivers in accessing affordable respite care.
(20) Designate part of the National Forest System in Puerto Rico as protected in the wilderness preservation system.

She has a nice list, but note that these are The Fact?s straight from the Senate Record; Therefore, it is not made up.

Now, It is time to post Senator Obama?s record from the Library of Congress.I have to mention that Senator Obama?s list is too substantive, one is coalesced to categorize. Since its alot, remember you can go to the Library of Congress website, and check it out yourself, but I am just summarizing his first 8 months.

During Senator Obama?s first 8 eight months of elected service he sponsored over 820 bills.

He introduced 233 bills regarding healthcare reform,
125 bills on poverty and public assistance,
112 bills on crime fighting,
97 economic bills,
60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills,
21 ethics reform bills,
15 gun control,
6 veterans affairs and many others.
In his first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These included:
(1)the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 that became LAW,
(2)The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act that became LAW, (3)The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act that passed the Senate,
(4)The 2007 Government Ethics Bill that became LAW,
(5)The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill that is in committee just to name a few.

In all since he entered the U.S. Senate, Senator Obama has written 890 bills and co-sponsored another 1096. An impressive record, for someone who supposedly has no legislative record. Read the facts and not emotion.

ProducerCashDave 06-10-2008 02:51 PM

good read

Pics Traffic 06-10-2008 02:54 PM

Obama is pretty much = Jesus. We get it.

_Richard_ 06-10-2008 02:57 PM

fastest travelling piece of proof ever :)

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-10-2008 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SBR Richard (Post 14302084)
fastest travelling piece of proof ever :)


Credit SBR Richard for the original post:thumbsup

Babaganoosh 06-10-2008 03:11 PM

There's one fact that trumps all of that...

Obama is a racist.

FACT: He's not getting my vote.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-10-2008 03:13 PM

The real fact's sit in Succesful bills/laws passed and Hillary wins hands down.
A Senator can write all the bills he wants just like pissing in the wind and if none stick or pass they are essentially a waste of time and most likely bad ideas.

Introducing a BIll is just that. It sits and usually does absolutly nothing and very few are ever passed when put in contrast to the number of bills and proposals written every day in Congress.

notoldschool 06-10-2008 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 14302131)
There's one fact that trumps all of that...

Obama is a racist.

FACT: He's not getting my vote.

Support your facts then you fucking bigot troll.

Babaganoosh 06-10-2008 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 14302142)
Support your facts then you fucking bigot troll.

What part of that do you need help with? How am I a bigot or a troll? Because I don't agree with what you say? You'd better come up with something better than that.

_Richard_ 06-10-2008 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pussyserver (Post 14302116)
Credit SBR Richard for the original post:thumbsup

haha no need man.. spread the word

notoldschool 06-10-2008 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 14302150)
What part of that do you need help with? How am I a bigot or a troll? Because I don't agree with what you say? You'd better come up with something better than that.

Show some shred of proof that he is racist or shut the fuck up. Yeah Obama has a crazy pastor, but not as crazy as Mccains freinds. You said its a fact he is racist...prove it or stop trolling Obama threads with bullshit. Oh yeah, were you never told not to awnser a question with a question? it just shows complete ignorance.

_Richard_ 06-10-2008 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 14302141)
The real fact's sit in Succesful bills/laws passed and Hillary wins hands down.
A Senator can write all the bills he wants just like pissing in the wind and if none stick or pass they are essentially a waste of time and most likely bad ideas.

Introducing a BIll is just that. It sits and usually does absolutly nothing and very few are ever passed when put in contrast to the number of bills and proposals written every day in Congress.

problem with that logic, is for the past 8 years, the republicans had control of the entire government..

how many democractic bills actually got through that would have limited that republican control?

MovieMaster 06-10-2008 03:20 PM

Obama Voters are a bunch of sheep! I would love to see his ass in a townhall setting without prewritten speeches from staffers and jesse jackson...

He utters and scrambles worse than george bush with on the fly questions

www.HOTAIR.com

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-10-2008 03:21 PM

That list really cracks me up actually after looking at it a couple more minutes.

It's like comparing apples to oranges. It basically breaks down to this.

Hillary is a politican that writes laws and gets them passed while Obama seems ot have a dismal record for writing Bills that actually pass!

Jesus! Has the news really got you people that fooled?
Is Media trying to say Obama is a better writer of Law and Bills than Hilary now? Thats a fucking joke because that is simply not true no matter how you look at it.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-10-2008 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SBR Richard (Post 14302162)
problem with that logic, is for the past 8 years, the republicans had control of the entire government..

how many democractic bills actually got through that would have limited that republican control?

Well for relation to this topic.

Hillary got 8 through I think while Obama 1 ( which was a co-sponsored Bill he did not even write ).
Hillary knows how to work with a strapped Republican Congress and still got Bills through.
Thats pretty remarkable in itself.

_Richard_ 06-10-2008 03:22 PM

but clinton has been in office a lot longer.. thinking about the comparisons from that angle, makes your argument kinda funny

_Richard_ 06-10-2008 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 14302168)
Well for relation to this topic.

Hillary got 8 through I think while Obama 0.
Hillary knows how to work with a strapped Republican Congress and still got Bills through.
Thats pretty remarkable in itself.

that's a good point

but it's easy when all those bills have something to do paying out victims of 911

Babaganoosh 06-10-2008 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 14302159)
Show some shred of proof that he is racist or shut the fuck up. Yeah Obama has a crazy pastor, but not as crazy as Mccains freinds. You said its a fact he is racist...prove it or stop trolling Obama threads with bullshit. Oh yeah, were you never told not to awnser a question with a question. it just shows ignorance.

I've tried to explain this to you before. You're apparently too stupid to understand. Rev. Wright was Barak Obama's Pastor for over 20 years. That shows that Obama agrees with Wright's views and has for many, many years. Now that he's running for president he's suddenly appalled by what Rev. Wright says? Anyone who believes that is an idiot.

I'm waiting to hear what makes me a bigot. So far you're the only bigot I see in this thread. You're the one trying to defend a racist.

GatorB 06-10-2008 03:24 PM

Who cares. Anyone can sponsor any bill about anything.

Libertine 06-10-2008 03:25 PM

Why is it that so many of Obama's supporters are mindless fanboys?

Seriously, what kind of complete idiot puts any trust in email chainletters? No matter who they support or attack, in 99% of cases they are either so biased as to be entirely useless, or just plain outright false. Expect this one to be debunked on factcheck.org in a few days.

I actually do hope Obama wins the general election, but his fanboys need to be bitchslapped.

_Richard_ 06-10-2008 03:27 PM

my address is 1270 - 1880 West Georgia

where is the fact checker proving that email wrong? what does it say regarding just touting obama?

Libertine 06-10-2008 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SBR Richard (Post 14302191)
my address is 1270 - 1880 West Georgia

where is the fact checker proving that email wrong? what does it say regarding just touting obama?

Here's an interesting little piece on chain emails:

http://www.factcheck.org/specialrepo...d_sent_to.html

directfiesta 06-10-2008 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MovieMaster (Post 14302165)
Obama Voters are a bunch of sheep! I would love to see his ass in a townhall setting without prewritten speeches from staffers and jesse jackson...

He utters and scrambles worse than george bush with on the fly questions

www.HOTAIR.com

LOL... Michelle Malkin website .....

Don't worry, today McCain said he would veto all new BEER :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

IllTestYourGirls 06-10-2008 03:31 PM

do you understand what sponsoring a bill means?

WhiplashDug 06-10-2008 03:35 PM

what about this?

Beneath Obama's flowery rhetoric lies a dangerous economic plan that will wreak havoc on the American economy.

Obama plans to return to the failed policies of high taxation coupled with an expansion of government spending.

Worse, Obama says he is absolutely committed to almost doubling the capital gains rate — something he will easily accomplish with a Democrat Congress.

In the coming months — when investors realize that Obama will raise the cap gains rate — there could be a stampede of asset sales as investors rush to take their profits now to avoid Obama's doubling of the tax rates next year.

IllTestYourGirls 06-10-2008 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiplashDug (Post 14302224)
what about this?

Beneath Obama's flowery rhetoric lies a dangerous economic plan that will wreak havoc on the American economy.

Obama plans to return to the failed policies of high taxation coupled with an expansion of government spending.

Worse, Obama says he is absolutely committed to almost doubling the capital gains rate ? something he will easily accomplish with a Democrat Congress.

In the coming months ? when investors realize that Obama will raise the cap gains rate ? there could be a stampede of asset sales as investors rush to take their profits now to avoid Obama's doubling of the tax rates next year.

Obama is god, he can do no wrong. I cant believe people think introducing that many bills is a GOOD thing.

Brujah 06-10-2008 03:38 PM

Hasn't Obama vs Clinton already been decided?

GatorB 06-10-2008 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiplashDug (Post 14302224)
what about this?

Beneath Obama's flowery rhetoric lies a dangerous economic plan that will wreak havoc on the American economy.

Obama plans to return to the failed policies of high taxation coupled with an expansion of government spending.

Worse, Obama says he is absolutely committed to almost doubling the capital gains rate ? something he will easily accomplish with a Democrat Congress.

In the coming months ? when investors realize that Obama will raise the cap gains rate ? there could be a stampede of asset sales as investors rush to take their profits now to avoid Obama's doubling of the tax rates next year.

Ok first of all the president isn't going to do shit. He will make SUGGESTIONS and CONGRESS will actually pass legislation that he will either sign or veto. Now you may suggest that since the dems will likely have majorities in both houses of Congress Obama will get what he wants. Now I can get into a lesson about how the GOP can filibuster in the Senate and prevent legislation from going anywhere, but I don't want to complicate this discussion too much.

And if his policies are bad for the economy in 2010 the Dems will lose badly in the congressional elections and the GOP will gain back control just like the Dems did in 2006 and the Repubs did inn 1994. And if it still bad in 2012 then Obama won't win a 2nd term. Like Carter and daddy Bush. See how everything works nicely?

kane 06-10-2008 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiplashDug (Post 14302224)
what about this?

Beneath Obama's flowery rhetoric lies a dangerous economic plan that will wreak havoc on the American economy.

Obama plans to return to the failed policies of high taxation coupled with an expansion of government spending.

Worse, Obama says he is absolutely committed to almost doubling the capital gains rate ? something he will easily accomplish with a Democrat Congress.

In the coming months ? when investors realize that Obama will raise the cap gains rate ? there could be a stampede of asset sales as investors rush to take their profits now to avoid Obama's doubling of the tax rates next year.

While I don't agree with all of his ideas on the economy there has never been a president that has spent more than Bush yet his tax cuts have brought in less so we have more debt. The last democrat we had in the white house seemed to keep the economy moving along really nicely.

The difference is the democrats want to spend money so the raise taxes to get the money to spend. The republicans want to spend money but they cut taxes and increase debt. Neither is a great plan.

WhiplashDug 06-10-2008 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 14302229)
Obama is god, he can do no wrong. I cant believe people think introducing that many bills is a GOOD thing.


Obama and McCain are both turds! One is a liberal and one is a socialist. Both are worthless!

Only difference I see - is McCain may be less of a puppet since he aint got much time left anyway - so why be completely beholden to the lobby? But Obama is coming from the most corrupt political system in the country, in a state totally run by his party that is in just about the worst shape possible (not that arizona is any better).

Thus my problem. I cant vote for either!

WhiplashDug 06-10-2008 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 14302271)
...Bush yet his tax cuts have brought in less so we have more debt..

I would challenge you to prove that statement.

notoldschool 06-10-2008 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Libertine (Post 14302183)
Why is it that so many of Obama's supporters are mindless fanboys?

Seriously, what kind of complete idiot puts any trust in email chainletters? No matter who they support or attack, in 99% of cases they are either so biased as to be entirely useless, or just plain outright false. Expect this one to be debunked on factcheck.org in a few days.

I actually do hope Obama wins the general election, but his fanboys need to be bitchslapped.

Replace Obama with Bush or Clinton which would look like--------------


Why is it that so many of Bush's supporters are mindless fanboys?

Seriously, what kind of complete idiot puts any trust in email chainletters? No matter who they support or attack, in 99% of cases they are either so biased as to be entirely useless, or just plain outright false. Expect this one to be debunked on factcheck.org in a few days.

I actually do hope Bush wins the general election, but his fanboys need to be bitchslapped.


-----------------------

Why is it that so many of Clinton's supporters are mindless fanboys?

Seriously, what kind of complete idiot puts any trust in email chainletters? No matter who they support or attack, in 99% of cases they are either so biased as to be entirely useless, or just plain outright false. Expect this one to be debunked on factcheck.org in a few days.

I actually do hope Clinton wins the general election, but her fanboys need to be bitchslapped.

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there is your awnser ...btw Im sure you are too much of a pussy to bitch slap anyone.

SoloGirlsContent 06-10-2008 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 14302178)
I've tried to explain this to you before. You're apparently too stupid to understand. Rev. Wright was Barak Obama's Pastor for over 20 years. That shows that Obama agrees with Wright's views and has for many, many years. Now that he's running for president he's suddenly appalled by what Rev. Wright says? Anyone who believes that is an idiot.

I'm waiting to hear what makes me a bigot. So far you're the only bigot I see in this thread. You're the one trying to defend a racist.

you're a dumb ass..welcome to my ignore list

IllTestYourGirls 06-10-2008 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiplashDug (Post 14302279)
Obama and McCain are both turds! One is a liberal and one is a socialist. Both are worthless!

Only difference I see - is McCain may be less of a puppet since he aint got much time left anyway - so why be completely beholden to the lobby? But Obama is coming from the most corrupt political system in the country, in a state totally run by his party that is in just about the worst shape possible (not that arizona is any better).

Thus my problem. I cant vote for either!

There are others running. Im not voting for either. :thumbsup

_Richard_ 06-10-2008 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Libertine (Post 14302207)
Here's an interesting little piece on chain emails:

http://www.factcheck.org/specialrepo...d_sent_to.html

i checked the url provided in that text

it says "(wwwhomas.loc.gov)", i'm assuming that means (www.thomas.loc.gov)

There, after a quick search, i pulled up literally the same information, but with a great deal more detail in regards to what actually was passed

so this is one of the two emails..

Libertine 06-10-2008 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 14302290)
Replace Obama with Bush or Clinton which would look like--------------


Why is it that so many of Bush's supporters are mindless fanboys?

Seriously, what kind of complete idiot puts any trust in email chainletters? No matter who they support or attack, in 99% of cases they are either so biased as to be entirely useless, or just plain outright false. Expect this one to be debunked on factcheck.org in a few days.

I actually do hope Bush wins the general election, but his fanboys need to be bitchslapped.


-----------------------

Why is it that so many of Clinton's supporters are mindless fanboys?

Seriously, what kind of complete idiot puts any trust in email chainletters? No matter who they support or attack, in 99% of cases they are either so biased as to be entirely useless, or just plain outright false. Expect this one to be debunked on factcheck.org in a few days.

I actually do hope Clinton wins the general election, but her fanboys need to be bitchslapped.

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there is your awnser ...btw Im sure you are too much of a pussy to bitch slap anyone.

Ehm, no. Both Clinton and Bush had FAR fewer fanboys than Obama. Sure, both had a decent share of idiot supporters, but when it comes to dumb fanboys as a percentage of supporters, only Ron Paul beats Obama.

And it appears you support both Obama and Ron Paul... interesting :1orglaugh

By the way, I've been meaning to ask you... how in the world can anyone first support Ron Paul, and then switch to Obama? Do you even realize just how little their platforms have in common?

_Richard_ 06-10-2008 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiplashDug (Post 14302224)
what about this?

Beneath Obama's flowery rhetoric lies a dangerous economic plan that will wreak havoc on the American economy.

Obama plans to return to the failed policies of high taxation coupled with an expansion of government spending.

Worse, Obama says he is absolutely committed to almost doubling the capital gains rate ? something he will easily accomplish with a Democrat Congress.

In the coming months ? when investors realize that Obama will raise the cap gains rate ? there could be a stampede of asset sales as investors rush to take their profits now to avoid Obama's doubling of the tax rates next year.

but investing trillions of dollars into a war is somehow the better idea?

Why does the media report what's wrong with America's future, but doesn't seem to touch on a lot of the present issues or comparisons

Socks 06-10-2008 04:04 PM

I really can't believe US citizens are so egotistical and vain that they truly believe whatever they think in their heads means more than just doing the obvious thing and getting the republicans off the stage.

When it all comes down to it, I would vote for these people over John McCain:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0...CLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/21307...30FDCFC4C15FBB

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/10...cide/balky.jpg

http://theassociation.blogs.com/the_...7;20knight.jpg

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/g...ansonPromo.jpg

http://images.sportsline.com/images/...asg_youppi.jpg

I mean I don't even like Youppi, but I'd still vote for him over McCain, any day.

So seriously.. Before you post your next obama is a _________ comment, have a look at the big picture.

You probably haven't even showered today, get a grip.

WhiplashDug 06-10-2008 04:07 PM

Lol... this thread is pointless.

icymelon 06-10-2008 04:08 PM

who hates obama? no one I know!


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