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Barefootsies 06-17-2008 10:11 AM

Watching the SEO House Fall Down Slowly
 
I did a interview last night and was asked some really really good questions. One of which was what is the future of SEO?

My honest answer is there is no future in SEO. From my experiences I am seeing Google SERPS results strongly influenced by Google Toolbar data, Google User history, and Google Analytics data. Googles combination of SEO and social voting via toolbar/history/analytics will continue to sway more in the realm of social voting. I feel this technology will only get better. I don?t think anyone can argue that core SEO has gotten less valuable over the years and I see that trend continuing. After all if you read the spam as defined by Matt Cutts (Google Lead Spam Engineer) he says:

?Web spam is when somebody tries to cheat or take shortcuts so that their Web site shows up higher [in search results rankings] than it deserves to show up,? - Matt Cutts

That is most SEO at its core. Sure you add title tags and meta descriptions but then you have to incentivize people to link to it. You are now seeing lots sites rank for stuff that have the goofiest URL structure, unoptimized title tags, and bad description tags.

Some of the best examples of how the Google algorithm is more favoring social voting (via above methods) are seen with the Google Sitelinks. I have had things show up on sitelinks that were completely noindex/nofollow and had no meta description or even on page content yet were the first item listed in my sitelinks? coincidently they were also the most trafficked item on my site.

So in my opinion there just is no future in current SEO for Google anyway. Its not going to happen overnight but it is happening.

Please keep in mind I (Shoemoney) am not a professional SEO and have never claimed to be. My opinions above are purely based on my experiences.

http://www.shoemoney.com/2008/05/07/seo-has-no-future/

Barefootsies 06-17-2008 10:15 AM


polle54 06-17-2008 10:15 AM

well you still seo'ed your url to your blog :)

Mike Semen 06-17-2008 10:20 AM

Classic link bait.

d-null 06-17-2008 10:21 AM

agree with you barefootsies

the best approach for long term seo is content

if your users bookmark and keep coming back to your site every day you are on the right track I think :2 cents:

polle54 06-17-2008 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Semen (Post 14337912)
Classic link bait.

LOL you are so right hehe :)
You seem to know your way around shoemoney, solid blog you got.

Mickey_ 06-17-2008 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 14337892)

I think a 'hunderd' is worth 10x more than a 'hundred'.

ps. Shoemoney doesn't = Barefootsies.

payd2purv 06-17-2008 10:45 AM

Blows my mind that their are surfers that are such newbs they use a search engine to find porn.

SNL 06-17-2008 11:02 AM

AzoogleAds

This is not a real check it was for a Magazine Ad for AzoogleAds
http://www.shoemoney.com/gallery/v/m...geViewsIndex=1

http://www.shoemoney.com/gallery/d/1...oogleAds_Check

WiredGuy 06-17-2008 11:17 AM

I love misinformation. See sig.
WG

Stephen McTowelie 06-17-2008 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by payd2purv (Post 14338054)
Blows my mind that their are surfers that are such newbs they use a search engine to find porn.

:upsidedow yeah who'd have thought surfers would use google eh :error

Stephen McTowelie 06-17-2008 11:37 AM

I love statements like there is no future in seo cracks me up !

But yeah no one bother with optimising there sites for google spread the word footsies !

;)

Roald 06-17-2008 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 14338238)
I love misinformation. See sig.
WG

LOL I was thinking about your sig while reading his post :1orglaugh

Barefootsies 06-17-2008 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey-AWE (Post 14338042)
ps. Shoemoney doesn't = Barefootsies.

Correct.

Barefootsies 06-17-2008 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen McTowelie (Post 14338341)
I love statements like there is no future in seo cracks me up !

But yeah no one bother with optimising there sites for google spread the word SHOEBITCH !

;)


tranza 06-17-2008 12:49 PM

This car is very nice!

pr0 06-17-2008 01:00 PM

this thread is pretty funny :thumbsup

baddog 06-17-2008 01:05 PM

Luckily McDonald's has very good training and I feel qualified to resume my post at the grill, window, fries or shake machine.

mx8829 06-17-2008 01:17 PM

SEO is always evolving :) , learn to adopt . you will be fine. I have built sites with just simple tweaks are getting good SE traffic and still growing.

Linguist 06-17-2008 01:33 PM

SEO that most of us are familiar with (pure spam) will end up being outranked by things like linkbait which gives the sites a perfect social acceptance (see first post in this thread)

Barefootsies 06-17-2008 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linguist (Post 14339070)
(see first post in this thread)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

tiger 06-17-2008 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen McTowelie (Post 14338341)
I love statements like there is no future in seo cracks me up !

But yeah no one bother with optimising there sites for google spread the word footsies !

;)

I think you missed the point. I believe he's saying it is becoming less and less of a factor not that you still shouldn't try at all. I still follow the basics but I have noticed the same things.

Nicky 06-17-2008 03:51 PM

There is no money in SEO, we have said it for years here.

JamesK 06-17-2008 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 14339947)
There is no money in SEO, we have said it for years here.

Yep, only idiots believe in SEO. Do you really think WiredGuy gets paid much? He never posts pics of hot cars and houses. He is one of the best SEO's but there's simply no money in generating traffic that way, so even he fails.

Google is way too smart, even the best SEO's only get a few hunderd clicks a month which is beer money for the western civilization. I think the future is in TGP's, focus on that guys if you really want to make big bucks :2 cents:

qxm 06-17-2008 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 14339947)
There is no money in SEO, we have said it for years here.

yeap.......I do recall many instances..

GT-Omar 06-17-2008 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 14338354)
LOL I was thinking about your sig while reading his post :1orglaugh

That make 2 of us

pr0 06-17-2008 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesK (Post 14339969)
Yep, only idiots believe in SEO. Do you really think WiredGuy gets paid much? He never posts pics of hot cars and houses. He is one of the best SEO's but there's simply no money in generating traffic that way, so even he fails.

Google is way too smart, even the best SEO's only get a few hunderd clicks a month which is beer money for the western civilization. I think the future is in TGP's, focus on that guys if you really want to make big bucks :2 cents:

I drive a 1985 cutlass....I call it "mr hoopty"

potter 06-17-2008 07:25 PM

there is no money in interwebs

Brad Gosse 06-17-2008 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesK (Post 14339969)
Yep, only idiots believe in SEO. Do you really think WiredGuy gets paid much? He never posts pics of hot cars and houses. He is one of the best SEO's but there's simply no money in generating traffic that way, so even he fails.

Google is way too smart, even the best SEO's only get a few hunderd clicks a month which is beer money for the western civilization. I think the future is in TGP's, focus on that guys if you really want to make big bucks :2 cents:

You don't have a clue :)

MattO 06-17-2008 08:11 PM

I do okay with the SEO but it's a bit frustrating when I get a good search for a specific porn title or star and the competing results are torrent sites.

baddog 06-17-2008 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Gosse (Post 14341658)
You don't have a clue :)

I like to think he was kidding . . . . please tell me you were kidding.

GAMEFINEST 06-17-2008 09:04 PM

shoeeeeeee

darnit 06-17-2008 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNL (Post 14338152)
AzoogleAds

This is not a real check it was for a Magazine Ad for AzoogleAds
http://www.shoemoney.com/gallery/v/m...geViewsIndex=1

http://www.shoemoney.com/gallery/d/1...oogleAds_Check

What a crappy photoshop job. There isn't even a reflection of the check on the side of the hummer....

JamesK 06-17-2008 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14341847)
I like to think he was kidding . . . . please tell me you were kidding.

I thought "I think the future is in TGP's, focus on that guys if you really want to make big bucks" gave it away, guess not :1orglaugh

rogerrabbit00 06-17-2008 09:20 PM

We are #1 for many adult dating terms. SEO is just work when you know what you are doing.

aico 06-17-2008 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darnit (Post 14341899)
What a crappy photoshop job. There isn't even a reflection of the check on the side of the hummer....

LOL, good eye. :thumbsup

Azoy? 06-17-2008 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darnit (Post 14341899)
What a crappy photoshop job. There isn't even a reflection of the check on the side of the hummer....

and the hand where he is holding the check is not aligned with the hand on the reflection on the hummer.
In terms of SEO, it works if you do it right and not a half past job like many out there.
Those who say there is no money in SEO also say there is not money in porn or TGP conversions :1orglaugh

rogerrabbit00 06-17-2008 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azoy? (Post 14341934)
and the hand where he is holding the check is not aligned with the hand on the reflection on the hummer.
In terms of SEO, it works if you do it right and not a half past job like many out there.
Those who say there is no money in SEO also say there is not money in porn or TGP conversions :1orglaugh


Don't expect SEO work to happen overnight. You might need to wait 3 months but you should see progress. TGP is good also but there are better methods. Find something that works then multiply.

Brad Gosse 06-18-2008 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesK (Post 14341911)
I thought "I think the future is in TGP's, focus on that guys if you really want to make big bucks" gave it away, guess not :1orglaugh

Sorry dude there is plenty of stupid on GFY. I thought you were for real. I laughed at you but now I am laughing with you ;)

Barefootsies 06-18-2008 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Gosse (Post 14342775)
Sorry dude there is plenty of stupid on GFY. I thought you were for real. I laughed at you but now I am laughing with you ;)

Toe hee!!
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


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