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Barefootsies 09-10-2008 01:56 PM

C4S Store Owners: Step Inside
 
It's been more than 48 hours. Are our banners, and graphics back up?

:helpme

StariaDaniel 09-10-2008 02:00 PM

Apparently not - do you know why they took them offline? Clips4Sale doing some strange things last couple of months, not sure if they're on the right course :helpme

Ryan St. Germain 09-10-2008 02:03 PM

Nope. I have a strange feeling they might not go back either. It's only the clickable banners, because they header on this store:
13761 is still there, since it was never clickable.

I just removed the url source from this store:Maitresse and the image returned.

Get the feeling they are trying to keep traffic on the site? That's fine, as long as they develop an affiliate program. If not, then I've got a problem not benefitting from the traffic I send to my own stores, by being able to send it to my own sites.

Ryan St. Germain 09-10-2008 02:04 PM

also, have you noticed the "advertise" section in the new admin? It's not live but they want, so I'm going to hope that the prices they quote for traffic there are not real.

Barefootsies 09-10-2008 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StariaDaniel (Post 14735391)
Apparently not - do you know why they took them offline? Clips4Sale doing some strange things last couple of months, not sure if they're on the right course :helpme

Honestly, not sure.

I sent them an e-mail 4 hours ago. Have not heard what up.

I know they are, or have been, working on their new platform. I still use the old one. I do not need all that bullshit on the new one for most of what I do. Nice bells and whistles for some I suppose. I'll look more into it, and new tools when I have time.

Right now, things are peachy. Other than this little bump.

StariaDaniel 09-10-2008 02:05 PM

Haha, they're talking about an affiliate program since years - would be cool but i don't expact it (yet) oO

Barefootsies 09-10-2008 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkCircus (Post 14735397)
Nope. I have a strange feeling they might not go back either. It's only the clickable banners, because they header on this store:
13761 is still there, since it was never clickable.

I just removed the url source from this store:Maitresse and the image returned.

Get the feeling they are trying to keep traffic on the site? That's fine, as long as they develop an affiliate program. If not, then I've got a problem not benefitting from the traffic I send to my own stores, buy being able to send it to my own sites.

This I agree with.

I get traffic to my OWN shit. So I should also be able to promote my main paysite, and network. But you might be on to something there.

I know that a year or so back they added in a filter to thier e-mail/newsletter that would take out any mention of other websites. I had to fight for two months to get it (my sites) past the filter so I could send out my standard e-mail.

My guess is there are more abusers doing something C4S is trying to rectify. i.e. growing pains.

Barefootsies 09-10-2008 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StariaDaniel (Post 14735416)
Haha, they're talking about an affiliate program since years - would be cool but i don't expact it (yet) oO

I'll pass on that shit foo.

I want to keep my 60/40 split thanks.

:2 cents:

Ryan St. Germain 09-10-2008 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 14735423)
This I agree with.

I get traffic to my OWN shit. So I should also be able to promote my main paysite, and network. But you might be on to something there.

I know that a year or so back they added in a filter to thier e-mail/newsletter that would take out any mention of other websites. I had to fight for two months to get it (my sites) past the filter so I could send out my standard e-mail.

My guess is there are more abusers doing something C4S is trying to rectify. i.e. growing pains.

By the way, we talked about HotMovies/FetishMovies.com not long ago, and after a few months, it's starting to grow pretty reasonably for me. It's not what my c4s stores do, but it's definitely worth the effort.

Barefootsies 09-10-2008 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkCircus (Post 14735404)
also, have you noticed the "advertise" section in the new admin? It's not live but they want, so I'm going to hope that the prices they quote for traffic there are not real.

Neil had mentioned something about this, or maybe it was in one of the announcements, a few months back.

Something about you being able to buy traffic directly from them, and they were working out some kind of promo feature. I can't recall off the top of my head what that announcement was, but it came out around the time they launched that new admin.

Barefootsies 09-10-2008 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkCircus (Post 14735428)
By the way, we talked about HotMovies/FetishMovies.com not long ago, and after a few months, it's starting to grow pretty reasonably for me. It's not what my c4s stores do, but it's definitely worth the effort.

Yeah, well, once they remove that provision in their contract where they get 'licensed' use of my content for their VOD network and they increase their payout percentage to content producers,... I'll think about it.

I am not going to "leave money on the table" and use their low ranking (compared to C4S) site just to get my 40%, and then give them a license to use my material on their VOD or whatever it was.

Oh yeah, and they PROMISE to remove it should I close my store.

Yeah right.
:disgust

StariaDaniel 09-10-2008 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkCircus (Post 14735404)
also, have you noticed the "advertise" section in the new admin? It's not live but they want, so I'm going to hope that the prices they quote for traffic there are not real.

Where did you see the prices? I've only the 3 banner positions on the "Advertise Now" page but no prices, and an empty table on the "ads listing" page.

Ryan St. Germain 09-10-2008 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 14735442)
Yeah, well, once they remove that provision in their contract where they get 'licensed' use of my content for their VOD network and they increase their payout percentage to content producers,... I'll think about it.

I am not going to "leave money on the table" and use their low ranking (compared to C4S) site just to get my 40%, and then give them a license to use my material on their VOD or whatever it was.

Oh yeah, and they PROMISE to remove it should I close my store.

Yeah right.
:disgust

I'm referring to the VOD side, not the clips side. I've packaged clips into collections by themed, and have a white label VOD theater with them.
It's good exposure too. I'm getting a lot of new customers because of it.

Ryan St. Germain 09-10-2008 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StariaDaniel (Post 14735445)
Where did you see the prices? I've only the 3 banner positions on the "Advertise Now" page but no prices, and an empty table on the "ads listing" page.

Tha'ts new. As of wo days ago, it gave a PPC text and banner ad by day or ppc rate list. I signed up two weeks or so ago, and it just said "pending approval" for a long time and now is gone.

Barefootsies 09-10-2008 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkCircus (Post 14735455)
I'm referring to the VOD side, not the clips side. I've packaged clips into collections by themed, and have a white label VOD theater with them.
It's good exposure too. I'm getting a lot of new customers because of it.

Good to hear you are having success.

You are one of the more recognized C4S people/store owners from the GFY.

As I've said in similar threads on this topic. I refuse to give a larger percentage to a company with the "promise" of more exposure or money. Clips.com or whatever have been around years now. They have yet to get close to the success, traffic, or rank of C4S during that time.

I have thought about trying them twice. Looked at their license agreement. Laughed. Shredded it.

Not a chance.

Ryan St. Germain 09-10-2008 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 14735468)
Good to hear you are having success.

You are one of the more recognized C4S people/store owners from the GFY.

As I've said in similar threads on this topic. I refuse to give a larger percentage to a company with the "promise" of more exposure or money. Clips.com or whatever have been around years now. They have yet to get close to the success, traffic, or rank of C4S during that time.

I have thought about trying them twice. Looked at their license agreement. Laughed. Shredded it.

Not a chance.

The clips side of HotMovies won't likely be as profitable as c4s, but they'll admit that clips aren't their main focus, movies are. I am, however, doing a little better with their clips side now because of the webmaster commissions.

The movie side of it is a piece of cake, really,. You mail them a dvd of your content, and they create the artwork, do the writeups, etc.

In my first month of having my whitelabel VOD, I made twice of what I did on c4s in the first month of a new store launch, (even with other successful c4s stores feeding it traffic). I didn't send it any traffic the first month, intentionally, to see what the result would be as a content provider. I made a larger number of sales with a smaller payout, which ended up being more money.

If you don't like the contract, that's another matter though, and I'd have to respect that.

Barefootsies 09-10-2008 02:39 PM

DC,

That's good feedback. It doesn't change my opinion on Clips/Movies. Others have had success with some other platforms mentioned in other C4S threads that might be worth a look.

But I appreciate you taking the time to write that out. Thanks for taking the time buddy. :thumbsup

Ryan St. Germain 09-10-2008 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 14735541)
DC,

That's good feedback. It doesn't change my opinion on Clips/Movies. Others have had success with some other platforms mentioned in other C4S threads that might be worth a look.

But I appreciate you taking the time to write that out. Thanks for taking the time buddy. :thumbsup

Hey, no problem. :thumbsup

Jim_Gunn 09-10-2008 04:10 PM

My banner and links are still missing and I am not too pleased about it. I also have sent some traffic directly to my C4S store knowing that I had links to my sites & blogs on the store page.

Barefootsies 09-10-2008 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 14735917)
My banner and links are still missing and I am not too pleased about it. I also have sent some traffic directly to my C4S store knowing that I had links to my sites & blogs on the store page.

Exactly.

I sent another e-mail. This time to Neil directly. Hopefully someone let's us know what is going on.

The 48 hours is one thing, and an inconvenience. I see a difference in sales numbers. I have been doing updates all week. But it's gotta be 3-4 days now since that notice, and it is NOT changed back.

:disgust

MRock 09-10-2008 05:08 PM

I believe they are checking for backlinks. Somewhere in the new admin I saw something stated with an asteric that backlinks are reqiured.

Barefootsies 09-10-2008 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MRock (Post 14736262)
I believe they are checking for backlinks. Somewhere in the new admin I saw something stated with an asteric that backlinks are reqiured.

I have a hundreds, if not THOUSANDS, of back links to the site, and store. So that is no reason to have banners off on my end.

I'll look in the new admin here in a sec.

Barefootsies 09-10-2008 05:11 PM

Quote:

September 8th 2008 7:00PM EST

Effective Immediately we have to to remove all banners off our system for 48 hours. This will have no effect on your stores html code. The removal of the links is being done on the display end. After the 48 hour period your links will appear again without intervention. Again, The links on your store will disappear for 48 hours when viewed through the www.clips4sale.com interface. The data in your admin will remain the same.

We appologize for the sudden change and will have the banners and links back up in 48 hours.

Have a great day

Chris [email protected]

:2 cents:

Barefootsies 09-10-2008 05:22 PM

Read through the tutorial, and every where I could click. I did not see anything about backlinks, but, as I said. I have tons. So I am not worried about that shit.

Jim_Gunn 09-10-2008 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 14736278)

:2 cents:

Well according to the time on that system-wide message it has just barely been longer than 48 hours, so hopefully they will be back soon. I have backlinks on my sites also so that is not an issue.

Barefootsies 09-10-2008 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 14736355)
Well according to the time on that system-wide message it has just barely been longer than 48 hours, so hopefully they will be back soon. I have backlinks on my sites also so that is not an issue.

Good toe hear.

Looks like they are working on a new ad platform. The tutorial was entertaining.

If Jimmy Gunn and his gf posted an hour of toe sex clips per day.... :winkwink:

Tat2Jr 09-10-2008 05:58 PM

I hope this is just a bump, like they said. Got lots of links back to my C4S stores. Even got a small army of SEO pages going directly there. With more bought and being spread across different class c's. :(

Barefootsies 09-10-2008 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tat2Jr (Post 14736519)
I hope this is just a bump, like they said. Got lots of links back to my C4S stores. Even got a small army of SEO pages going directly there. With more bought and being spread across different class c's. :(

I think most store owners are like that TatrSalad. It makes sense to do it that way.

However, I am sure there are people/companies trying to game the system.

MRock 09-10-2008 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 14736352)
Read through the tutorial, and every where I could click. I did not see anything about backlinks, but, as I said. I have tons. So I am not worried about that shit.

Go in to admin, go to clipstore edit, look at the bottom og the page in red:

* Optional Requires a link back to your store

Barefootsies 09-10-2008 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MRock (Post 14736549)
Go in to admin, go to clipstore edit, look at the bottom og the page in red:

* Optional Requires a link back to your store

Thanks BRO. Going to check it out now.

tony286 09-10-2008 06:08 PM

how have your sales been today,mine have blown.

Barefootsies 09-10-2008 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MRock (Post 14736549)
Go in to admin, go to clipstore edit, look at the bottom og the page in red:

* Optional Requires a link back to your store

Ah ha. Found it.

For those who do not know how to do HTML, they have a 'Dummie" function. People can upload their banner, and then the asterick

"* Optional Requires a link back to your store "

Looks like there is one for the top, and bottom, banner.

Barefootsies 09-10-2008 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14736558)
how have your sales been today,mine have blown.

They actually have been kinda slow this week. Odd as it's network wide.

I actually had to crank back up, and update, my TGP and tube. Then threw some traffic at them. Kinda weird fo sho. Not worried. The month always balances out, but it has been a noticeable on sales front.

Hun listed, plus some other key places, traffic has not dropped. Just one of those weeks.

Jim_Gunn 09-10-2008 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 14736570)
Ah ha. Found it.

For those who do not know how to do HTML, they have a 'Dummie" function. People can upload their banner, and then the asterick

"* Optional Requires a link back to your store "

Looks like there is one for the top, and bottom, banner.

I see the asterisked comment in red, but what about it? Are you saying that you have done something to make the links or banners return? I see that my header html is unchanged, I just don't see the banner or links.

Barefootsies 09-10-2008 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 14736662)
Are you saying that you have done something to make the links or banners return?

No....

:(

Barefootsies 09-11-2008 05:04 AM

Still no banners
:(

emmanuelle 09-11-2008 06:53 AM

Who are you trying to kid? C4S sends you WAY more traffic than you send to your store. They have been protecting their traffic for a long time, it just took them till now to get to you. Over a year ago they banned the ccbill.com string (ie: refer.ccbill.com) and will block outgoing links on new stores as they review them.

If you're so concerned about having full use of your traffic, then set up your own store using the phantom script. Personally, C4S sends me some lovely targeted traffic, and I dont care to fuck it up.

Barefootsies 09-11-2008 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emmanuelle (Post 14738493)
Who are you trying to kid? C4S sends you WAY more traffic than you send to your store. They have been protecting their traffic for a long time, it just took them till now to get to you. Over a year ago they banned the ccbill.com string (ie: refer.ccbill.com) and will block outgoing links on new stores as they review them.

If you're so concerned about having full use of your traffic, then set up your own store using the phantom script. Personally, C4S sends me some lovely targeted traffic, and I dont care to fuck it up.

Yet one more clueless asshat.

For starters, I have been with them 4-5 years. So my stores are not new. I have thousands of links to my store via submits, among other things. Not to mean outright traffic. You have no clue what you are talking about, which is not surprise on GFY. Just because you are lazy and rely solely on C4S traffic doesn't mean that all of us do.

Maybe you should actually look at your traffic logs before you make such asinine statements toots. I think I know where mine comes from. But thanks for your concern.

In the meantime, learn how to generate your own.

:disgust

emmanuelle 09-11-2008 07:16 AM

You're such a fraud

Barefootsies 09-11-2008 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emmanuelle (Post 14738582)
You're such a fraud

Riiiiiiiiight. That's why I post my ratios in my fucking sig.

(rolls eyes)


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