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mmcfadden 09-22-2009 06:10 PM

Can I get $100 in traffic from trafficjunky and post my stats?
 
Title says it all...

tia

Dirty Dane 09-22-2009 06:15 PM

Productive traffic = 0 %
Hit "no I am not 18" button = 99 %
Blind people = 1 %

Agent 488 09-22-2009 06:23 PM

why not. you know most people are going to take then up on their offer and hope no one notices.

alias 09-22-2009 06:25 PM

Try it out.

mmcfadden 09-22-2009 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alias (Post 16350446)
Try it out.

I just want the ok from the owner. They can give me the $100 traffic they offered on this board and will post those stats. Then if that turns a buck I will give them $100 of MY money and post those stats... repeat the process.

I doubt it will get past stat post #1 :2 cents:

CyberHustler 09-22-2009 06:35 PM

:1orglaugh

Agent 488 09-22-2009 06:43 PM

why can't you not post your stats? who gives a fuck?

mmcfadden 09-22-2009 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 16350486)
why can't you not post your stats? who gives a fuck?

I want the confidence every business owner has...

I have what you want... I offer it at a fair price... you want to do business with me. etc.

That is what i'm after... if getting a shitload of traffic via tubes is just a well thought out phenomena and the traffic is still good after offering almost EVERYTHING for free... I want to hear from the owner's mouth to stand behind their product

Dirty Dane 09-22-2009 06:58 PM

Does it really matter what it's worth? If the traffic is coming from a pirate site, that is enough reason not to buy. With or without a broker.

Stef. 09-22-2009 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane (Post 16350510)
Does it really matter what it's worth? If the traffic is coming from a pirate site, that is enough reason not to buy. With or without a broker.

QFT, 'nuff said

RK 09-22-2009 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 16350423)
Title says it all...

tia

If it doesn't cover, you'll tell us it doesn't covert.
And if it does convert, you'll buy more, and tell us it doesn't covert.

What's the point?

mmcfadden 09-22-2009 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RK (Post 16350554)
If it doesn't cover, you'll tell us it doesn't covert.
And if it does convert, you'll buy more, and tell us it doesn't covert.

What's the point?

this is a rhetorical question that I already know the answer to.

If in the smallest chance the traffic converted I would post it and continue to do so...

Think about it... if stolen content from producers actually came back and converted... then that is another game. that a'int the case though... stolen content goes on a tube that now has the fuckin balls to ask for more

fris 09-22-2009 07:25 PM

if it converted they wouldnt be selling it

CunningStunt 09-22-2009 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris (Post 16350566)
if it converted they wouldnt be selling it

:2 cents:

There's no way traffic converts otherwise they'd monetize it properly themselves.

They're running out of ways to make $ from all their stolen content.

mmcfadden 09-22-2009 08:21 PM

anyone know the server for pornhub?

mmcfadden 09-22-2009 08:24 PM

nevermind...

http://www.swiftwill.com

papill0n 09-22-2009 08:30 PM

I don't know, can you ?

mmcfadden 09-22-2009 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papill0n (Post 16350722)
I don't know, can you ?

don't know... still waiting for owner of trafficjunky response

RK 09-22-2009 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 16350732)
don't know... still waiting for owner of trafficjunky response

Why did you need to ask for permission in the first place?
Have you ever heard of any affiliate program or traffic broker not letting people post stats?

B O B 09-22-2009 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris (Post 16350566)
if it converted they wouldnt be selling it

bingo!!!!!

mmcfadden 09-22-2009 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RK (Post 16350755)
Why did you need to ask for permission in the first place?
Have you ever heard of any affiliate program or traffic broker not letting people post stats?

i'm old school...

im calling trafficjunky out and giving that company a chance to defend.

RK 09-22-2009 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 16350762)
i'm old school...

im calling trafficjunky out and giving that company a chance to defend.

I'm older school (see the registration date? 2001) and you purpose is lost on me.

What is there to defend?
What exactly is your claim and what is your evidence?

Iron Fist 09-22-2009 09:53 PM

I just hope your honest with stats .. i'm sure a HELL of a lot of people would be interested... trafficjunky included. I can put money down on the fact that if the stats suck... your thread will be deleted in a heartbeat. $25K for a skin buys a lot of positive PR too...

mmcfadden 09-22-2009 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RK (Post 16350820)
I'm older school (see the registration date? 2001) and you purpose is lost on me.

What is there to defend?
What exactly is your claim and what is your evidence?

i ain't talkin about gfy biz... old school as in the way I was taught business. my engineering company... my fathers biz, grandfather's... ya know old school :thumbsup

way way before 2001... and to answer your questions in the order they were asked...

go fuckin read this thread again and all the other posts on this board relative to it :thumbsup

Vjo 09-22-2009 10:15 PM

Yeah I'd love to see a stats report. Kudos for your effort.

Afterall folks going back 24,000 TARGETED hits to CCBill progs, ONLY mmcfadden was able to crack the knarly scrub and register a sup! :thumbsup

Or I'd be 0 in the last 24,000 :disgust

Can we talk? I'm getting ready to drop the hatchet on all CCBill but that is or was another thread.

But yeah I'd love to see stats.

RK 09-22-2009 10:43 PM

I was hoping to avoid this, but looks like I will have to state the obvious.
This is how a smart person sells tube traffic, and the people behind TJ are smart:

1) Create ad zones and put up affiliate ads
2) Calculate, based on PPS/revshare results, the CPM value of each zone
3) Use a bidding system to sell the traffic.
4) Buy your own traffic by bidding just below your calculated CPM value
5) When someone bids above your own bid --> $$$ PROFIT MORE $$$

The purpose of this whole skinning is to find someone who can convert tube traffic better than the people who own the tubes can.
It's not easy, but if you can do it, you stand to make A LOT of money since there is A TON of traffic.

And if you can't do it, it doesn't mean that it's impossible. Someone will.
Of course, since you are dealing with thieves, expect the method to be stolen :)

Now class, any questions?

PornMD 09-22-2009 10:43 PM

Actually this is what I bet:

It MIGHT convert for SOMETHING, but they don't know what - so they'll give/sell spots until someone starts continuing to buy spots, meaning it's converting for what they're selling - then they'll stop selling spots and will instead simply sell whatever that person is selling.

In other words, it hasn't been converting for what they've tried so far, but they're hoping smoeone will find a solution for them so they can then steal that just like they steal their content.

PornMD 09-22-2009 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RK (Post 16350942)
I was hoping to avoid this, but looks like I will have to state the obvious.
This is how a smart person sells tube traffic, and the people behind TJ are smart:

1) Create ad zones and put up affiliate ads
2) Calculate, based on PPS/revshare results, the CPM value of each zone
3) Use a bidding system to sell the traffic.
4) Buy your own traffic by bidding just below your calculated CPM value
5) When someone bids above your own bid --> $$$ PROFIT MORE $$$

The purpose of this whole skinning is to find someone who can convert tube traffic better than the people who own the tubes can.
It's not easy, but if you can do it, you stand to make A LOT of money since there is A TON of traffic.

And if you can't do it, it doesn't mean that it's impossible. Someone will.
Of course, since you are dealing with thieves, expect the method to be stolen :)

Now class, any questions?

Hah, great people think alike except mine has what I believe is their ulterior motive with this.

mmcfadden 09-22-2009 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RK (Post 16350942)
I was hoping to avoid this, but looks like I will have to state the obvious.
This is how a smart person sells tube traffic, and the people behind TJ are smart:

1) Create ad zones and put up affiliate ads
2) Calculate, based on PPS/revshare results, the CPM value of each zone
3) Use a bidding system to sell the traffic.
4) Buy your own traffic by bidding just below your calculated CPM value
5) When someone bids above your own bid --> $$$ PROFIT MORE $$$

The purpose of this whole skinning is to find someone who can convert tube traffic better than the people who own the tubes can.
It's not easy, but if you can do it, you stand to make A LOT of money since there is A TON of traffic.

And if you can't do it, it doesn't mean that it's impossible. Someone will.
Of course, since you are dealing with thieves, expect the method to be stolen :)

Now class, any questions?

You didn't need to do that.

Stating a theoretical obvious doesn't make the concept of selling me stolen traffic any easier to swallow. atop that... the shit doesn't convert bro!

Reason #1 for my OP

Vjo 09-22-2009 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RK (Post 16350942)
I was hoping to avoid this, but looks like I will have to state the obvious.
This is how a smart person sells tube traffic, and the people behind TJ are smart:

1) Create ad zones and put up affiliate ads
2) Calculate, based on PPS/revshare results, the CPM value of each zone
3) Use a bidding system to sell the traffic.
4) Buy your own traffic by bidding just below your calculated CPM value
5) When someone bids above your own bid --> $$$ PROFIT MORE $$$

The purpose of this whole skinning is to find someone who can convert tube traffic better than the people who own the tubes can.
It's not easy, but if you can do it, you stand to make A LOT of money since there is A TON of traffic.

And if you can't do it, it doesn't mean that it's impossible. Someone will.
Of course, since you are dealing with thieves, expect the method to be stolen :)

Now class, any questions?

Well said. Thanks.

Guess that leaves Joe WM out of that loop.

SpeedWacker 09-22-2009 11:09 PM

I'll send you 20,000 real visitors for $60.00

sandman! 09-22-2009 11:12 PM

so you do it yet ?

Vjo 09-22-2009 11:13 PM

That is how all traffic is sold long term, the best guys convert it, cont to buy and the price is set.

From what I've seen I doubt anyone can convert it at the rates that were quoted in a diff post.

But we'll see how the prices go for tube traffic as time goes on.

It is pretty shitty traffic. Bottom line. Esp at prices that are higher than most other sources.

I expected low prices for shitty raffic. Makes sense right. Not impression stuff. At least cpc.

RK 09-22-2009 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vjo (Post 16350993)
Well said. Thanks.

Guess that leaves Joe WM out of that loop.

It leaves almost everyone out of the loop.
There is so much money behind TJ that they can duplicate most products/services.

So, those who know how to convert tube traffic would be doing it on a small enough scale to stay under the radar. Maybe it's even mmcfadden himself.

Don't cry for Joe WM. Joe doesn't have a pile of money invested in content and servers and billing systems and support.
When something stops selling for Joe, he simply moves on to something that does sell.
And, if all Internet porn becomes free, Joe will adapt because Joe knows it means surfers have more money to buy something else that Joe will sell.

RK 09-22-2009 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vjo (Post 16351020)
I expected low prices for shitty raffic. Makes sense right. Not impression stuff. At least cpc.

Does it need to be spelled out why the prices are skewed?

Vjo 09-23-2009 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RK (Post 16351084)
Does it need to be spelled out why the prices are skewed?

LOL Absolutley. I'm right here in the front row. :)

Seriously real good previous posts.

In another post TJ quted 4000 click thrus for $100 at .7% click thru ratio.

What I am really wondering is who is gonna sell at that rate?

Can you spell that out? :)

RK 09-23-2009 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vjo (Post 16351142)
LOL Absolutley. I'm right here in the front row. :)

There is a limit to how much I will say in public.
ICQ me if you like, 992 five eight six six

Vjo 09-23-2009 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RK (Post 16351078)
It leaves almost everyone out of the loop.
There is so much money behind TJ that they can duplicate most products/services.

So, those who know how to convert tube traffic would be doing it on a small enough scale to stay under the radar. Maybe it's even mmcfadden himself.

Don't cry for Joe WM. Joe doesn't have a pile of money invested in content and servers and billing systems and support.
When something stops selling for Joe, he simply moves on to something that does sell.
And, if all Internet porn becomes free, Joe will adapt because Joe knows it means surfers have more money to buy something else that Joe will sell.

Good point Joe WM is adaptive, cranky but adaptive. :)

Some good posts here. Guys from 2001 always know what they're are doing. :winkwink:

Notice I am 2002 BUT I was around in 2001 of course. Same guys who beat me to GFY beat me to everything else on the web. LOL Story of my life.

Except for cutetoes.com :)

Vjo 09-23-2009 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RK (Post 16351159)
There is a limit to how much I will say in public.
ICQ me if you like, 992 five eight six six

No prob. It's not that important. Just shooting the shit.

Vjo 09-23-2009 12:24 AM

Obviously as you say they are smart and it will be monetized. The best method or product will convert it.

As you say when dealing with big traffic that it is the way to do it.

Big traffic = big competition.

Maybe I should grab $100 and try. I might be able to crack 1:1333 seriously.

But I doubt it :)


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