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DateDoc 06-22-2010 11:50 AM

Judge blocks Gulf offshore drilling moratorium
 
NEW ORLEANS ? A federal judge struck down the Obama administration's six-month ban on deepwater oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico on Tuesday, saying the government rashly concluded that because one rig failed, the others are in immediate danger, too.

The White House promised an immediate appeal. The Interior Department had halted approval of any new permits for deepwater drilling and suspended drilling of 33 exploratory wells in the Gulf.

Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said President Barack Obama believes strongly that drilling at such depths does not make sense and puts the safety of workers "at a danger that the president does not believe we can afford."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_gulf_oil_spill

IllTestYourGirls 06-22-2010 11:54 AM

Good. What is good enough for Soros and Obama's cronies in Brazil (who are drilling in 2,700+ meters of water using US tax dollars) is good enough for the US.

cwd 06-22-2010 11:55 AM

drill baby drill....


Palin 2012!!!

Wizzo 06-22-2010 11:58 AM

Glad to see some common sense...

dyna mo 06-22-2010 11:58 AM

common sense prevails

Quote:

Originally Posted by DateDoc (Post 17269987)

Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said President Barack Obama believes strongly that drilling at such depths does not make sense and puts the safety of workers "at a danger that the president does not believe we can afford."

yet they allow bp's atlantis rig to continue drilling in 7000ft water in the gulf of mexico

BFT3K 06-22-2010 12:38 PM

What common sense are you guys referring to?

The common sense that big oil needs to make a profit at any cost, no matter how dangerous their methods are?

You people are either insane, and or so filled with Obama-hate, that you are now blind to logic.

Common sense my ass....

bronco67 06-22-2010 12:40 PM

This is good. I'll bet anything the BP rig is an anomaly in an industry that has a pretty good track record for safety.

Jman 06-22-2010 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 17270159)
This is good. I'll bet anything the BP rig is an anomaly in an industry that has a pretty good track record for safety.

The only one unsafe isBP with their + 700 safety violations in 2007 Tony Hayward was unfortunatly unaware of or not responsible or not involved.

dyna mo 06-22-2010 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17270147)
What common sense are you guys referring to?

The common sense that big oil needs to make a profit at any cost, no matter how dangerous their methods are?

You people are either insane, and or so filled with Obama-hate, that you are now blind to logic.

Common sense my ass....

i won't be answering your question.

there's no common sense in trying to converse with you and share opinions. you've already shown that you fly off the handle, jump to conclusions about others with whom you disagree and show a general disrespect for others' views.

BFT3K 06-22-2010 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17270224)
i won't be answering your question.

there's no common sense in trying to converse with you and share opinions. you've already shown that you fly off the handle, jump to conclusions about others with whom you disagree and show a general disrespect for others' views.

http://jemima.files.wordpress.com/20...management.jpg

dyna mo 06-22-2010 01:16 PM

to wit.


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mayabong 06-22-2010 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17270018)
common sense prevails



yet they allow bp's atlantis rig to continue drilling in 7000ft water in the gulf of mexico

9334343 bucks says you live nowhere near the gulf coast.

Amputate Your Head 06-22-2010 01:24 PM

Can't imagine why this judge would do this. He has to know the Federal Government will get their way over his on this issue.

seeandsee 06-22-2010 01:25 PM

They will strike now hard to change that, fuckers

dyna mo 06-22-2010 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17270266)
9334343 bucks says you live nowhere near the gulf coast.

i grew up in pasadena, texas, a 45 minute drive down i-45 to the gulf. spent summers at our beach house in galveston. spent my 18th birthday wading through flood waters from hurrican alicia to buy my 1st case of beer legally. i still have family and very close friends there and visit, as much as i dislike southeast texas
my sister and brother in law live in slidell, louisiana, they are both in the oil&gas bidness and had their boat destroyed by hurricane katrina. i visit them and my niece and nephew often, not in the summers though.

i take paypal.

mayabong 06-22-2010 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17270293)
i grew up in pasadena, texas, a 45 minute drive down i-45 to the gulf. spent summers at our beach house in galveston. spent my 18th birthday wading through flood waters from hurrican alicia to buy my 1st case of beer legally. i still have family and very close friends there and visit, as much as i dislike southeast texas
my sister and brother in law live in slidell, louisiana, they are both in the oil&gas bidness and had their boat destroyed by hurricane katrina. i visit them and my niece and nephew often, not in the summers though.

i take paypal.

Where do you live now?

dyna mo 06-22-2010 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17270305)
Where do you live now?

don't worry about it.

mayabong 06-22-2010 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17270317)
don't worry about it.

Like I said obviously nowhere near the gulf. My guess is cali

dyna mo 06-22-2010 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17270319)
Like I said obviously nowhere near the gulf. My guess is cali

oooo, you got me good........

http://www.premiere.com/var/ezflow_s...r-troopers.jpg

Fletch XXX 06-22-2010 02:38 PM

Quote:

Judge Who Lifted Moratorium Tied To Offshore Drilling Companies

The federal judge who lifted Obama's six-month drilling moratorium had interests in Transocean and a number of other offshore energy companies, according to financial disclosure forms from 2008.

Martin Feldman, a U.S. District Court Judge for the Eastern District of Louisiana, held energy stocks in Transocean and Halliburton, as well as two of BP's largest U.S. private shareholders -- BlackRock and JP Morgan Chase. The law Feldman overturned would have halted the approval of any new permits and suspended deepwater drilling at 33 existing exploratory wells in the Gulf, four of which are BP rigs.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_621501.html

/carry on

dyna mo 06-22-2010 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 17270504)

good luck finding a judge who does not own shares of an oil co.

BFT3K 06-22-2010 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 17270504)

Well, as long as he's a neutral party in all of this... :Oh crap

MaDalton 06-22-2010 03:23 PM

money talks

dyna mo 06-22-2010 03:40 PM

Quote:

Feldman ruled that the Interior Department failed to provide adequate reasoning for the moratorium, saying that "If some drilling equipment parts are flawed, is it rational to say all are? Are all airplanes a danger because one was? All oil tankers like Exxon Valdez? All trains? All mines? That sort of thinking seems heavy handed and rather overbearing".

"The Deepwater Horizon oil spill is an unprecedented, sad, ugly and inhuman disaster," he wrote. "What seems clear is that the federal government has been pressed by what happened on the Deepwater Horizon into an otherwise sweeping confirmation that all Gulf deepwater drilling activities put us all in a universal threat of irreparable harm."

udge Feldman said that the decision to suspend drilling in wells in depths greater than 500 feet "simply cannot justify the immeasurable effect on the plaintiffs, the local economy, the Gulf region and the critical present-day aspect of the availability of domestic energy in this country."
seems like a level-headed, common-sense, unbiased opinion to me

BFT3K 06-22-2010 03:45 PM

What does phrase "the critical present-day aspect of the availability of domestic energy in this country" mean, when all of the oil drilled is sold on the international market?

dyna mo 06-22-2010 03:54 PM

all of the oil that comes from the Gulf of Mexico(the US sector) is used in the US.

BFT3K 06-22-2010 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17270709)
all of the oil that comes from the Gulf of Mexico (the US sector) is used in the US.

Wow, that's news to me!

Any supporting evidence for this?

dyna mo 06-22-2010 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17270717)
Wow, that's news to me!

Any supporting evidence for this?

i don't have anything handy but i do know we import ~13m barrels of oil per day & consume ~22m barrels per day + it's my understanding gulf oil is refined on the gulf coast exclusively and primarily used for transportation fuels.

mountainmiester 06-22-2010 04:08 PM

News to me too as I have heard many times, it is as likely to go to Mexico or China. Would like to see more evidence to support this.

Brujah 06-22-2010 04:13 PM

Anyone that actually reads anymore, this one's good
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/17390/111965

dyna mo 06-22-2010 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mountainmiester (Post 17270761)
News to me too as I have heard many times, it is as likely to go to Mexico or China. Would like to see more evidence to support this.

this is news to me, i would like to see evidence of this. now we do export refined products from gulf coast refineries to those countries. but i am not aware we ship crude oil from the gulf of mexico to mexico and china, or any other country.

dyna mo 06-22-2010 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 17270774)
Anyone that actually reads anymore, this one's good
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/17390/111965

lolz, good article, i posted a thread about it a while back. :thumbsup

dyna mo 06-22-2010 04:32 PM

i did a bit of snooping around, my #s were in fact off, we export ~40% of oil from the gulf in the form of refined oil products

http://www.americanprogress.org/issu...g/gulf_oil.jpg

dyna mo 06-22-2010 04:39 PM

ahh, found it

http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/pe...EEX_mbbl_m.htm



more:

The ?oil? we export is not in the form of crude, but rather is composed of diesel and other heavy fractional petroleum distillates. When crude is refined into its final products, the ratio of what is produced out is fixed (for the most part).
... what little raw crude oil the US exports goes exclusively to Canada. To further put this into perspective, in 2009 we exported a whopping 15.9 million barrels to Canada, or 0.82% of total US domestic oil production.

dyna mo 06-22-2010 04:41 PM

i was right, this is wrong.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17270826)
i did a bit of snooping around, my #s were in fact off, we export ~40% of oil from the gulf in the form of refined oil products

http://www.americanprogress.org/issu...g/gulf_oil.jpg

here are the official #s of gulf coast oil production
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/pe...0_mbblpd_a.htm

cykoe6 06-22-2010 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17270266)
9334343 bucks says you live nowhere near the gulf coast.

There are plenty of people who live on the Gulf Coast whose jobs are dependent on offshore drilling that likely would disagree you. :2 cents:

Why 06-22-2010 04:54 PM

that judge was an idiot, course so are a lot of people!

mayabong 06-22-2010 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 17270886)
There are plenty of people who live on the Gulf Coast whose jobs are dependent on offshore drilling that likely would disagree you. :2 cents:

I agree, but "common sense" goes out the window when you have a family to feed.

The Demon 06-22-2010 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 17270921)
I agree, but "common sense" goes out the window when you have a family to feed.

Or when you claim Israel was responsible for 9-11, or when you claim the Holocaust didn't happen or was exaggerated. :thumbsup

dyna mo 06-22-2010 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17270927)
Or when you claim Israel was responsible for 9-11, or when you claim the Holocaust didn't happen or was exaggerated. :thumbsup

he's on a roll since he figured he gotcha'd me with the not living on the gulf coast thing.



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