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jscott 09-24-2010 08:55 PM

TNACash Aron does not pay
 
I've been emailing and icqing Aron from TNACash for about 9 months now, about paying my account on TNACash Nats

At first he says he'll look into it, and make sure I'm paid (which he always used to actually do after only 3-5months late, but now 9 months is enough)

Aron, keep my money :)

I will make sure everyone knows that if they push your sites that you will not pay



Even today I gave you 1 last chance on icq to reply to me, and you didn't take that opportunity
I even offered to let you buy out my account, you didn't reply

:disgust

Mark down TNA CASH into your blacklists guys

Domain Broker 09-24-2010 09:01 PM

white listed.

rhizome 09-24-2010 09:03 PM

Owes me money too.

jscott 09-24-2010 09:19 PM

Yea, he doesn't reply email or icq

Last reply I have from him is from August 3rd:

Aron-tnacash8/3/2010 4:53 AM
I forgot what I found out, let me recheck it tonight!

James 09-24-2010 09:28 PM

Ouch.

/popcorn time

Jaeger 09-24-2010 09:36 PM

that sucks jscott you seem to encounter lots of programmes that don't pay :(

glad you tell the rest of us :)

jscott 09-24-2010 09:55 PM

Thanks for appreciating Darth, I always will speak up hoping to help you and all affiliates to protect our traffic from programs that aren't even responsible enough to pay

Deej 09-24-2010 10:07 PM

I wonder what both sides have to say as you both are veterans with respect...

LeRoy 09-24-2010 10:15 PM

Use their CCbill links.

jscott 09-24-2010 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeRoy (Post 17537985)
Use their CCbill links.

But I still get rebills and webmaster ref's from TNA cash NATS for LONG time

That money is what I'm talking about, most of my links are already changed to ccbill

heymatty 09-25-2010 09:40 AM

Bump for JScott :)

Klen 09-25-2010 10:23 AM

I have 27$ on NATS there.Is this new trend where programs with nats and ccbill not paying on nats part but paying only on ccbill?

signupdamnit 09-25-2010 01:19 PM

Nats and other Nats programs (As well as MPA3, etc) should be getting on the programs doing the late or no payment thing as it's destroying the reputation of all such programs. It's driving affiliates to ccbill. No one should have to beg for their money. Not one week. One month. Or many months. It should be automatically paid ON TIME. No excuses, no bullshit. You were sent the sales so shut up and pay the affiliate their cut.

bolsex 09-25-2010 02:38 PM

another one!

Davy 09-25-2010 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Domain Broker (Post 17537900)
white listed.

I think you mean blacklisted? :error :1orglaugh

SteveHardeman 09-25-2010 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17539605)
Nats and other Nats programs (As well as MPA3, etc) should be getting on the programs doing the late or no payment thing as it's destroying the reputation of all such programs. It's driving affiliates to ccbill. No one should have to beg for their money. Not one week. One month. Or many months. It should be automatically paid ON TIME. No excuses, no bullshit. You were sent the sales so shut up and pay the affiliate their cut.

I don't think it's a "NATS programs" thing. I think it's a "NATS programs offering high PPS" thing. I know nothing about TNACash. Were they paying out a significantly higher payout versus a signup?

It appears the OP was not using PPS links but if the program was offering PPS links to others, they may be having issues paying out on those and therefore it's trickling up to the revshare affils as well.

Or the opposite of all that. I really have no idea. Just speculation.

rhizome 09-25-2010 04:16 PM

Yup, you really have no idea but nice try.

A bunch of NATS programs owe me money, all of them revshare programs.

signupdamnit 09-25-2010 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveHardeman (Post 17539914)
I don't think it's a "NATS programs" thing. I think it's a "NATS programs offering high PPS" thing. I know nothing about TNACash. Were they paying out a significantly higher payout versus a signup?

It appears the OP was not using PPS links but if the program was offering PPS links to others, they may be having issues paying out on those and therefore it's trickling up to the revshare affils as well.

Or the opposite of all that. I really have no idea. Just speculation.

I was a little hesitant about labeling it a NATS thing. It's not, really. That's why I made sure to include Mpa3. I should have been more precise and said "those who handle their own payouts". I agree about revshare generally being more stable than PPS. Of course if the sponsor has no integrity that might not help much in the end though.

It's almost to the point that sponsors handling their own payouts should be bonded a month's worth of affiliate payouts in case of disputes. Of course I have no fantasies of that ever happening :1orglaugh but we're to the point where it would be a great selling point. Hell if I were TMM (as an example since they run NATS which is the biggest) I might even consider making it a requirement for programs using the software going forward just to keep a positive image with affiliates in the face of all the scandals.

SteveHardeman 09-25-2010 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhizome (Post 17539941)
Yup, you really have no idea but nice try.

A bunch of NATS programs owe me money, all of them revshare programs.

Nothing is absolute. I was simply theorizing based on my own experience. My theory is that more "programs that offer a PPS option" are late or not paying than "programs that don't have a PPS option." And I stand by it. Geezus, do I even have to call that a theory. It's a theory like gravity is a theory.

....remainder edited cuz it's a Saturday night and I don't feel like arguing. :thumbsup

18teens 09-25-2010 06:28 PM

Fuck, not another one.

fatfoo 09-25-2010 06:32 PM

TNACash does not pay? That sucks.

SBJ 09-25-2010 10:16 PM

that sucks jscott! :disgust

jscott 09-26-2010 12:01 AM

The main thing made me post this thread is I seen GotGauge (Aron) posting a few days ago

He has time to post replies on gfy, but no time to pay his affiliates

So Aron tell us, what "glitch" happend?

cherrylula 09-26-2010 03:15 AM

great, another program bites the dust.

jscott 09-26-2010 03:26 AM

But this is old news guys, He's always paid 1 month, or 3 months, or 6 months late

Now going on 1 year late, there is nothing he can do now to redeem himself, paying 9 months late is the same as not paying at all for me

Write it off and spread the word

AdPatron 09-26-2010 03:27 AM

Another reason to stop promoting affiliate programs.

gooddomains 09-26-2010 06:21 AM

affiliate pograms are dead

PGR 09-26-2010 08:15 AM

He is aslo involved with Radical Cash

cykoe6 09-26-2010 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaeger (Post 17537946)
that sucks jscott you seem to encounter lots of programmes that don't pay :(

glad you tell the rest of us :)

Whats up buddy? Anyway I thought TNA Cash closed and stopped paying along time ago....... but thanks for keeping us up to date jscott. :)

SBJ 09-26-2010 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoesTraffic (Post 17540871)
Another reason to stop promoting affiliate programs.

nah just time to promote more ccbill and rev share programs rather than high risk high PPS programs

BUMP :thumbsup

Agent 488 09-26-2010 03:07 PM

so my $31.91 is gone? bummer.

lazerbunny 09-26-2010 03:22 PM

why not promote sites that use ccbill and pay on time?

BlueDude 09-26-2010 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazerbunny (Post 17542478)
why not promote sites that use ccbill and pay on time?

+1, I recommend that.

signupdamnit 09-26-2010 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gooddomains (Post 17541196)
affiliate pograms are dead

It's looking like the bad ones who play games will be, yes. Affiliates themselves seem to be doing fine as long as they stay off sinking ships. :2 cents:

jenmarie 09-26-2010 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SBJ (Post 17542422)
nah just time to promote more ccbill and rev share programs rather than high risk high PPS programs

BUMP :thumbsup


You got that right! :cool-as-a :2 cents:

TheSenator 09-26-2010 09:40 PM

Is that the old TeenKelly site...

That shit is on autopilot.

RycEric 09-26-2010 10:16 PM

We're with Jscott here. Stiffed once by TNA.. then I made the bad decision of allowing them to sign up radical and same shit.

Deej 09-26-2010 10:19 PM

Well this isnt looking good. I always thought TNA Cash had their shit together...

jscott 09-27-2010 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 17543057)
Is that the old TeenKelly site...

That shit is on autopilot.

Yep that's the one

But he also has TeenDeja, that was the most recent TNA Cash site, she's still active in the scene, and GotGauge aka Aron posts here on GFY recently

I asked him if he is willing to buy out my affiliate account, 1 final payment and he can keep all my future rebills/webmaster refs (TeenDolls John did this for me, pay out balance plus a little extra)

At least we could just settle this shitty stupid situation once and for all

....but of course, Aron does not reply to icq/email :disgust

Sly 09-27-2010 05:24 AM

I find this mildly amusing... not because of your loss, jscott... but because he was recently here posting about the government and how it wastes so much money and it needs to stop spending. Ironic.

Funny, I know another scamming program owner that had the same issues with the government.

Agent 488 09-27-2010 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SBJ (Post 17542422)
nah just time to promote more ccbill and rev share programs rather than high risk high PPS programs

BUMP :thumbsup

tna cash was rev share. some people just like the better tracking of nats as well as a few other reasons. :2 cents:

jscott 10-02-2010 02:27 AM

GotGauge
Last Activity: Today 05:34 AM
http://www.gfy.com/members/gotgauge/

jscott 10-23-2010 06:49 PM

bump bump, to remind you Aron, i know you've seen this thread, this is reminder how much of a dickhead you are :)
have a great day jj....... oops, i mean, Aron

jscott 01-20-2011 06:48 PM

Added Aron and TNA Cash to:
http://www.jscottcash.com/blacklist.php
and
http://www.gfy.com/it/780091-scammer-list-add.html (scammer list)

Aron, yo bro, whazzup man, lets get together for some bro dinner sometime lol

18teens 01-20-2011 07:37 PM

He still hasn't paid?

jscott 01-20-2011 08:22 PM

No paid
No replied

Even he has brand new threads he posts on GFY and I post in those, he replies to everyone, but ignores posts LOL

That is the voice of a true scammer

pristine 01-20-2011 08:27 PM

shit listed.

Agent 488 01-20-2011 08:32 PM

link pulled.

papill0n 01-20-2011 08:37 PM

his nick on here is gotgauge ?

jscott 01-20-2011 08:39 PM

yes, gotgauge, he just recently posted a thread about some new model he's shooting


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