Average Conversions in Adult these days.
 

I remember when sales were averaging 1:250 on tgp traffic. Today's average? I have no idea, things have changed so much.

I remember when you could make an avs and make a sale like 1:25 the same night. :1orglaugh

and then google would update, the SE traffic would come, and you could get nice terms coming in real fast and sales like popcorn.

fuuuuck.... with the tubes I have no idea what a decent conversion is, haven't been freshening things up enough lol

between 1:25 and 1:15,000.

and then the blog thing blew up... I fucking hate blogs now. :1orglaugh

I have a bunch of sites to update, and I swear I am going to nuke all the blogs I find. Just because.

I would think double digit conversions are like ancient internet history now, like wagons and horses.

1:500 - 1:1000 on my best sponsors

1:10000 on others

what kind of traffic? if you don't mind saying... :upsidedow

That.
I have few niche blogs that average a 1:20 - 1:100 ratio on constant basis (for years, now). And then there is general stuff that can go up to 0:20.000 (after which I drop the sponsor :1orglaugh)

hard days for porn...

Then don't update. I have blogs with 5 good written posts that gather even as much as 5k daily SE traffic. I haven't touched those for months and I don't intend to :)

Piracy bringing full scenes for free everywhere has no doubt hurt our business badly.

But when it comes to just conversion averages...we have to realize that a few other things are at play as well.

In the mid to late 1990's conversions were fucking low as hell...but if you think about it, EVERYBODY that was online then had money. Computers were expensive compared to today. Relatively few knew how to use them. So it was people with decent jobs and well educated who had credit cards.

Today? Everybody has a computer and a fast internet connection. God knows for every real potential customer today we probably have 10,000 people who are either Kids, Unemployed, Poor, or No Credit Card. And none of those folks are gonna buy memberships today.

I stopped worrying about conversion ratios back around 2003. I decided that there was only one number that really mattered: Net Income.

people has their credit cards blocked... :(

I actually was just thinking this exact thing. Like how many more people in general are online, many of which are broke ass freeloaders. lol

and yeah the tube thing...

But niche will always work if you do it right. I think I need to just push the foulest thing I can find. :1orglaugh

1:500 - 1:2000

I lost a handful of sites in the reality check network thing, so I am going to start over with a few things and need to figure out some new places to send traffic, long term. It's like the smoke is clearing a little for me with all the companies going under and sold the past few years. Who's left? lol

I've lost a shit-ton of sponsors!

i like to keep my guys between 1:10-1:20 on good traffic ;)

blog and seo mostly

direct/blind/trades/shit traffic is where the 1:10000 kicks in.

Our best site was doing better then 1:120 till a year ago, now it is at 1:250, it gets good traffic though and not very much either so that helps.

Niche stuff still converts good. But like Robbie says It's the net income that is the important part, everything else is just numbers.

Review sites still regularly convert incredibly well. I've seen bestporn and Rabbit send 10 signups out of 100 hits before.

I've seen a 404 pusher send 100,000 a day and he's lucky to get 1.

Yeah I would imagine those numbers sound about right. Hmm never thought about a review site but these days that is probably the best idea if you want to push quality sites.

I still have so many links out there to shitty old paysites still alive with crap member areas I am sure. Poor surfers. lol

Last week our best site was doing 1:126 and all are CCBill sponsors

Why would anyone ever pay for porn when it said $1 and you ended up getting charged $140?

It's all about the presell.

I'm 1:3062 overall.

my new sponsor converts like 1:178, and others are like hell,

tgp , 1: 3k
tube 1:15k
webcams 0:30k

sucks.

In the beginning'

Very little traffic and ratios 1-200
Then traffic grew and it became 1-400
Then traffic grew and it became 1-1000
Then traffic grew and it became 1-2000

Then traffic declined and it became 1-5000

But the solution is MORE TRAFFIC. LOL

I have an over-all in 2010 of 1:1217

Some are at 1:300 some at 1:2000. The ones I send most sales to are between 1:300 and 1:1000.

I paid for a Rapidshare account, around 10?, went to planetsuzy.org and pornbb.org ..downloaded 100 gigs of video of all kinds in a few days... :winkwink:

On my blogs that has most of the traffic from SE it is 1:1000 to 1:2500 on traditional niches, micro niches are better, but getting traffic for them is not easy for me. On my tube site are ratios extremely bad, but I use it most for promoting cams, so I almost don't care.

I consider anything below 1:2000 to be good nowadays... And that's just sad. :(

Living by the 'ratio' is the most misleading thing you can ever do.


I've seen campaigns at 1:2000 make more money than campaigns at 1:1000


:2 cents::2 cents::winkwink:

lol

Some folks don't seem to remember when 1:1000 was considered shit.

I have guys with TGP's that average about 1:200 + and guys with blogs in the same area.

What you're saying doesn't make sense to me. Unless the 1:2000 is making more per signup, maybe. Otherwise the EPC is lower. Can you explain more?

You figured it out all by yourself.

or,

the 1:1000 only sent 2 sales and made $80

and the 1:2000 sent 20 sales and made $400

What he is saying is to look at the bottom line :2 cents:

the overall average of every webmasters ratio would be a useless piece of information given how many different ways there are to advertise sites these days... not to mention the differences in niches and site types etc...

I know. Thank you. :1orglaugh

that is like legend now. hah

It always has been the bottom line, of course. And today's complexities of niches with sites available and different traffic sources makes it impossible to have an overall average that makes any sense.

But this is a good thread, and thanks to everyone for their replies. :)

with exclusive content, in a niche like mine (shemale solo sites), we average about 1:800 to 1:1200. I would've been in shock with these ratios about 5 years ago, but now I consider them pretty good.

I wonder what things will be like in another 5-10 years. Craziness.

Average, overall for the entire industry is 1:XXXX.

When looking at my stats, I add up all the revenue from sales/rebills over a period of time and then divide by the total numbers of clicks. I like to know how much it's worth per thousand clicks, so I then times by 1000, which can typically give me a figure such as $40.43 per 1000 clicks

My excuse is I studied Statistics at a rather high level

You could go with the http://www.datinggold.com $3 per free email signup program. You might see conversions like 1:50 or 1:200.

My first sale on an established milf affiliate program from a new blog I started:

1:412 Raw
1:321 Unique

Not much traffic yet but growing...

I loved those times, 30 sites from one template per day with multiple entrance pages for different avs sites = tons of cash

It depends on how many sales/period you are doing. People that say 1:20 probably sending 1-2 sales. If you send more than 15-20 sales in the given period, 1:300-1:500 is a very good ratio nowdays.