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Ethersync 12-18-2010 09:09 AM

Dash Cam Video Released of Seattle Police Officer Shooting and Killing a Native American Woodcarver.
 


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A dash cam video from the officer who shot and killed Native American woodcarver John T. Williams was released Friday, showing Williams ambling slowly across the street in a crosswalk before the officer opens fire.

Although most of the action takes place off-screen, Williams is seen walking across the street in front of the patrol car in the video, dated Aug. 30.

The patrol car starts to pul More..l forward, then stops.

Officer Ian Burke can then be seen walking after Williams and shouting, "Hey, hey, hey! Put the knife down! Put the knife down!"

The officer walks off-screen and then five shots ring out in rapid succession, killing Williams.

Birk's badge was later pulled after a Seattle Police Department Review Board and Chief John Diaz reached a preliminary finding that Williams' shooting was not justified.

A judge ruled Thursday that the clip from officer Ian Birk's car could be released to the public after prosecutors had a chance to notify witnesses not to view the tape.

The tape's release comes after a public disclosure request from the Seattle Times.

An inquest into Williams' shooting death by Officer Ian Birk has been set to begin on Jan. 10. The facts of the case will be laid out in the open through the process.
6+ minute clip available here: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=956_1292627716

SmokeyTheBear 12-18-2010 10:43 AM

seen it awhile ago , looks like the guy was in the middle of carving. probably didn't even understand what was going on. cop seemed trigger happy , although the actual shooting takes place out of camera so its hard to say but from the reaction of the bystander , seemed totally unjustified. You dont "shoot to kill" because a guy doesnt drop a knife in 3 seconds if he isnt doing anything. What if he were simply a deaf chef from a nearby restaurant. Who knows, but its pretty sad when cops tell us whats justified instead of the other way around. Cops work for us and should be protecting and serving us how we want them to do it , not how they want to do it. That is not how i want cops protecting us, and i think the majority of people would agree.

SmokeyTheBear 12-18-2010 10:50 AM

in the 6 minute video the officer admits the guy was just carving the board you see under his arm in the first frame of the youtube video. The guy was simply walking by carving a board. fucking sick , he should be charged with murder.

SmokeyTheBear 12-18-2010 10:57 AM

"he was carving up that board with it open, i approached him and uhh instructed him multiple times and he wouldn't do it"

3:44 of the liveleak video

no wonder they dont want witnesses watching the video before trial.

a little after that another officer asks him "did he do anything else " , replied by "negative"

Abbie 12-18-2010 12:04 PM

What they also don't mention is that the woodcarver was mostly deaf. It's been a huge story here. There are pictures from the scene floating around as well that show that the knife was CLOSED.

Zyber 12-18-2010 12:18 PM

He should be put in the electrical chair.

moeloubani 12-18-2010 12:35 PM

I don't understand why those police officers didn't just turn around and handcuff the other officer. Can't you tell when a crime has been committed? One man just shot another - isn't the idea of the police to protect, not come to the murderers aid? Disgusting.

DeanCapture 12-18-2010 12:39 PM


topsiteking 12-18-2010 12:53 PM

He should be charged with murder.Agree!
Fucking sick.













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Deej 12-18-2010 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture (Post 17783056)

mediated justification of public murder... grotesque

dyna mo 12-18-2010 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture (Post 17783056)

good info right there. nice to see the media trying to cover all aspects of this.

Amputate Your Head 12-18-2010 01:02 PM

Fucking barbarians.

FUCK THE POLICE.

topsiteking 12-18-2010 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Abbie (Post 17783022)
What they also don't mention is that the woodcarver was mostly deaf. It's been a huge story here. There are pictures from the scene floating around as well that show that the knife was CLOSED.


scubadiver626 12-18-2010 01:08 PM

1 innocent death, a tragedy.

60 million, a statistic now. The powerful will always murder the weak... welcome to humanity.

bronco67 12-18-2010 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 17783054)
I don't understand why those police officers didn't just turn around and handcuff the other officer. Can't you tell when a crime has been committed? One man just shot another - isn't the idea of the police to protect, not come to the murderers aid? Disgusting.

Deadly force should only be used by equal deadly force. Some cops are scared out of their mind, and this is why this kind of shit happens. The situation went from "hey put the knife down" to bang bang in about 2 seconds.

So apparently the guy had a history of being a pain in the ass, but you can't just shoot the guy for not being compliant. This cop should be in prison.

I still won't condemn the entire police force when this happens. The good stuff cops do never gets released.

tiger 12-18-2010 04:36 PM

Anyone remember the guy in Seattle that had a giant samurai sword strapped to his back and he would walk all over the city with it? Can't remember if it was the same guy but there was also a guy that had a huge standoff with police with a giant sword for some reason he didn't pose enough of a threat to get shot.

GatorB 12-18-2010 05:28 PM

Fucking racist cops. If that cop was found scalped I would totally let whoever did it off if I was on the jury.

Coup 12-18-2010 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 17783054)
I don't understand why those police officers didn't just turn around and handcuff the other officer. Can't you tell when a crime has been committed? One man just shot another - isn't the idea of the police to protect, not come to the murderers aid? Disgusting.

the job of the police in a capitalist society is to protect capital.

http://www.disinfo.com/2010/03/the-p...o-protect-you/

people can go fuck themselves

Caligari 12-18-2010 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture (Post 17783056)

this shit is beyond belief, was this BS only on Fox or did other news stations run this crap?

Ethersync 12-18-2010 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture (Post 17783056)

Sickening bit of police propaganda there.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 12-18-2010 06:24 PM

Seems like your typical shitbag homeless Indian causing shit and generally being a drag on society. You can find them all over the place up here. The world really didn't lose anything here. Down in the states you have hood negros clogging up your penitentiaries, up here in Canada, this is what we have. That being said, they really didn't need to shoot him just for being a drunken Indian...

BlackCrayon 12-18-2010 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 17783054)
I don't understand why those police officers didn't just turn around and handcuff the other officer. Can't you tell when a crime has been committed? One man just shot another - isn't the idea of the police to protect, not come to the murderers aid? Disgusting.

it seems like the cops are almost a legal gang sometimes. they stick up for each other no matter how guilty someone might be and no snitching is a huge thing. pretty sad. i wish the good cops would take a stand against scumbag cops.

topsiteking 12-18-2010 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by angry jew cat (Post 17783532)
seems like your typical shitbag homeless indian causing shit and generally being a drag on society. You can find them all over the place up here. The world really didn't lose anything here. Down in the states you have hood negros clogging up your penitentiaries, up here in canada, this is what we have. That being said, they really didn't need to shoot him just for being a drunken indian...

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WiredGuy 12-19-2010 12:10 AM

He was shot for this? What happened to taser's? Why didn't the cop try to take him down at all instead of shooting him 5 times! Even a single shot could have subdued him, 5 was definitely unjustified.
WG

u-Bob 12-19-2010 08:49 AM

Another victim of the state.

Stacks Banned for Life 12-19-2010 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 17783532)
Seems like your typical shitbag homeless Indian causing shit and generally being a drag on society. You can find them all over the place up here. The world really didn't lose anything here. Down in the states you have hood negros clogging up your penitentiaries, up here in Canada, this is what we have. That being said, they really didn't need to shoot him just for being a drunken Indian...

You can find the same type of shitbag jews around here on gfy!

MrCain 12-19-2010 09:49 AM

That cop should be shot.

Amputate Your Head 12-19-2010 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MrCain (Post 17784371)
That cop should be shot.

5 times like his victim. :2 cents:

Abbie 12-19-2010 06:56 PM

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABP...2013443412.pdf

The original report filed by the officer

Abbie 12-19-2010 07:04 PM

Crime Scene Photo of the knife closed:

http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/daily...williams .php

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 12-19-2010 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacks Banned for Life (Post 17784317)
You can find the same type of shitbag jews around here on gfy!

When's the last time you woke up to a bunch of shitbag jews passed out on your lawn after a long night of huffing gasoline? Had a friend jumped a beaten with pipes for a 6 pack of beer? Or caught a jew rolling around in his own shit inebriated in the bank ATM? I take it you've never had to spend any time on the rez? or in any area high in native population? they usd to setup camps in the alleyway behind my first apartment in the city, they'd hang out in their cardboard boxes and get hammered on lysol EVERY FUCKING NIGHT. they'd stumble around breaking shit, pass out wherever they fell down, and constantly bum whatever they could off you. I couldn't keep ANYTHING outside because it would disappear within days.

I've worked on a number of Indian reservations in my years, particularly when I worked in the oil patch. The band will build each family a brand new house with tax dollars provided by the government. Some reservations don't drill waterwells, they simply truck fresh water in. BECAUSE IT IS MORE COST EFFECTIVE TO TRUCK THE WATER IN TO THEM THAN TO DRILL A WELL. The house will be destroyed before it pays off. I've seen brand new houses torn to pieces and burned for heat, because they'd rather spend their money on bingo and crack than pay a gas bill. I've literally watched little Indian children rip the siding off a house while the parents st around get smashed.

Have you ever seen what happens to a vehicle that breaks down driving through the rez? Better hope you can get a tow before fucking dark...

I grew up in the north where the indian population is high. I've got a lot of great native buddies, but take my word for it when is say this. THERE ARE A LOT OF SHITBAG FUCKING INDIANS AROUND. Hell, your average job holding, contributing native citizen will tell you the EXACT SAME THING.

There's a lot of useless shitbags of all races out there, but fuck me if there isn't something a little extra special about your average waste of flesh Indian. Somehow they manage to take things one step further into the extreme. I stand by my word, the world didn't lose anything special here. The cop is in the wrong, and used an unnecessary amount of force, but I'm having extreme difficulty feeling a loss when I see this.

There's a little show in Canada called To Serve and Protect or some shit like that, it's a Canadian COPS rip off. If you ever get the chance, turn it on. You're in for an entire episode of native entertainment ever time. You could have mixed this guy's clips in there and you never would have noticed a thing out of place.

Call me a racist if you'd like, but I have zero respect for this type of person. Where's the Winnipeg crowd at? they should be able to contribute some awesome native american stories...

bronco67 12-19-2010 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 17785319)
When's the last time you woke up to a bunch of shitbag jews passed out on your lawn after a long night of huffing gasoline? Had a friend jumped a beaten with pipes for a 6 pack of beer? Or caught a jew rolling around in his own shit inebriated in the bank ATM? I take it you've never had to spend any time on the rez? or in any area high in native population? they usd to setup camps in the alleyway behind my first apartment in the city, they'd hang out in their cardboard boxes and get hammered on lysol EVERY FUCKING NIGHT. they'd stumble around breaking shit, pass out wherever they fell down, and constantly bum whatever they could off you. I couldn't keep ANYTHING outside because it would disappear within days.

I've worked on a number of Indian reservations in my years, particularly when I worked in the oil patch. The band will build each family a brand new house with tax dollars provided by the government. Some reservations don't drill waterwells, they simply truck fresh water in. BECAUSE IT IS MORE COST EFFECTIVE TO TRUCK THE WATER IN TO THEM THAN TO DRILL A WELL. The house will be destroyed before it pays off. I've seen brand new houses torn to pieces and burned for heat, because they'd rather spend their money on bingo and crack than pay a gas bill. I've literally watched little Indian children rip the siding off a house while the parents st around get smashed.

Have you ever seen what happens to a vehicle that breaks down driving through the rez? Better hope you can get a tow before fucking dark...

I grew up in the north where the indian population is high. I've got a lot of great native buddies, but take my word for it when is say this. THERE ARE A LOT OF SHITBAG FUCKING INDIANS AROUND. Hell, your average job holding, contributing native citizen will tell you the EXACT SAME THING.

There's a lot of useless shitbags of all races out there, but fuck me if there isn't something a little extra special about your average waste of flesh Indian. Somehow they manage to take things one step further into the extreme. I stand by my word, the world didn't lose anything special here. The cop is in the wrong, and used an unnecessary amount of force, but I'm having extreme difficulty feeling a loss when I see this.

There's a little show in Canada called To Serve and Protect or some shit like that, it's a Canadian COPS rip off. If you ever get the chance, turn it on. You're in for an entire episode of native entertainment ever time. You could have mixed this guy's clips in there and you never would have noticed a thing out of place.

Call me a racist if you'd like, but I have zero respect for this type of person. Where's the Winnipeg crowd at? they should be able to contribute some awesome native american stories...

This is where some liberal fag chimes in about how "you'd act like that too if your country was stolen from you."

SallyRand 12-19-2010 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ethersync (Post 17782812)




6+ minute clip available here: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=956_1292627716


SallyRand 12-19-2010 11:21 PM

There was no reason to shoot this man.

The Native American in the real world.



SallyRand 12-19-2010 11:42 PM

So long, John................

Tók?a akhé waŋčhíŋyaŋkiŋ kte, Tókhi wániphika ní!, Taŋyáŋ ománi yo!

See you in the next life; we'll wake you up for meals!

John T. Williams now walks with the White Buffalo!

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/o...buffalopen.jpg

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...s/IMG_0024.jpg

Don't mean nothin'.

White Man just shot another drunken Indian and you know the only good Indian is a ...................

baddog 12-19-2010 11:51 PM

1. What does his race have to do with anything?
2. The video proves nothing.

baddog 12-19-2010 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 17783869)
He was shot for this? What happened to taser's? Why didn't the cop try to take him down at all instead of shooting him 5 times! Even a single shot could have subdued him, 5 was definitely unjustified.
WG

They are not trained to shoot once and see what happens. :2 cents:

Ethersync 12-20-2010 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17785486)
1. What does his race have to do with anything?
2. The video proves nothing.

1. The video shows that he was shot about 4 seconds after getting warned.

2. The officer's own report says he was 10 feet away and the guy did not lunge at him or anything. The officers says the man had a threatening posture and a strange look in his eyes.

3. A crime scene photo shows the knife blade was closed.

SallyRand 12-20-2010 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17785492)
They are not trained to shoot once and see what happens. :2 cents:

Google "Greg Sevier".

http://www.cybold.com/cybold/hitchita/index.html

" SHOT IN THE HEART
by Bruce Rodgers

In the early morning hours of April 21, 1991, Gregg Sevier sat
on the edge of his bed. The bed faced his dresser and mirror.
To each side, on wall pegs, were assorted cowboy hats. A $900
stereo, that he had paid off in two months with his part time
maintenance job, nudged the dresser on the right. Nearby was
his custom pool cue, colored beads covering the handle in a
feather design. It was a tidy bedroom, Gregg's possessions
neatly arranged in their place.
Within Gregg was turmoil, a
power amplified by alcohol. What he felt, or was precisely
thinking, no one will ever know. Beyond his closed door Willie
and Orene Sevier were concerned. The stereo was on and loud.
Gregg had mentioned to his father that he might be breaking up
with his girlfriend. There were fears about Gregg's emotional
state. Willie went to ask Gregg to turn down the music. He
opened the door. Willie saw Gregg holding a butcher knife at
his side. He said nothing and slowly closed the door. Not
knowing what to do, Willie spoke to his wife, Orene, who decided
to call 911. It was 2:28 a.m.
"I just wanted someone to talk
him down," said Orene. "I wasn't hysterical, Gregg was in his
room. I was afraid he was going to hurt himself. He needed
someone to talk to him."
The dispatcher asked if there was a
disturbance. Orene said "nothing was going on, nothing was
happening."
Five minutes and 27 seconds later, Lawrence police
officer Ted Bordman radioed that he was at the Sevier house.
One minute and 36 seconds later, Officer James Phillips arrived.
A few minutes later, 22 year old Gregg Sevier was dead with two
bullet wounds to the heart.

Ruled justifiable

The circumstances behind the killing of Gregg Sevier are, like
the deaths of three other members of Lawrence's Indian community
in the past two years, shrouded in controversy. Despite an
investigation by the Kansas Bureau of Investigation, only
theories surround the mysterious deaths of Christopher Bread,
Cecil Dawes Jr. and John Sandoval. The facts in those deaths
are yet to be uncovered.

After the Sevier shooting Officers Bordman and Phillips were placed on administrative leave, with pay, pending the outcome of a coroner's inquest. That inquest was held on April 30 and May 1. Six jurors heard testimony to determine whether the death was an accident, of felonious intent, or a justifiable homicide. The jury ruled the shooting
justifiable but included this notation with the verdict: "We, the jury, have concerns about how the events were handled from the time the police arrived until the final confrontation
between Gregg Sevier and the officers."

I am personally accuainted with both police officers involved as well as the Sevier family.

Met Greg only once or twice.

Just another "good" Indian 'cause he's a DEAD Indian!

baddog 12-20-2010 12:11 AM

You have a link to the report and the photo? Again, what did the guy's race have to do with anything? Are you racist or something?

baddog 12-20-2010 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SallyRand (Post 17785508)
Google "Greg Sevier".

Why would I? How is it relevant to this discussion?

SallyRand 12-20-2010 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17785509)
You have a link to the report and the photo? Again, what did the guy's race have to do with anything? Are you racist or something?


Baddog, the guy was shot because he was a drunken fucking Indian who had a knife in his hand and the cop could shoot him.

It's just that simple.

Cop hotdoggery and a man died without cause.

But John T. Williams is a GOOD INDIAN NOW..............................

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 12-20-2010 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SallyRand (Post 17785513)
But John T. Williams is a GOOD INDIAN NOW..............................

You said it...

adwank 12-20-2010 02:46 AM

He didn't deserve it, I hope the policeman go to jail for life.

CamTraffic 12-20-2010 05:42 AM

looks like they got what they wanted
should have tazed him not shoot him that fast
officer should go on trial...

topsiteking 01-12-2011 10:57 PM


It seems very clear this cop acted unreasonable and killed an innocent man.
He should be convicted.Bottom line.

justfreemovies 01-13-2011 02:38 AM

totally fucked, depressing


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