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gleem 01-04-2011 10:17 AM

Sponsor owners.. all Epass fraud moved to Paxum now?
 
Well for many years the affiliate fraud was exclusively on webmaster accounts being paid with Epassport, and after they went under there was an awesome month of barely any fraud, but now the webmaster seems to be kicking back in and about 95% of the fraud accounts are using Paxum.

Seems like Paxum is the new online processor of choice, for legit and fraudulent webmasters in my program. Guess they won the e-payment battle?

PR_Dave 01-04-2011 10:27 AM

http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/1001798-effect-pre-paid-card-wallet-option.html

~Ray 01-04-2011 10:31 AM

post examples

Klen 01-04-2011 10:33 AM

Cheezeeee,you are such a pussies :1orglaugh

magicmike 01-04-2011 10:34 AM

Yup, many fraudulent webmasters used epassporte, we're looking into paxum now, but could use to not get another blast of russian, and etc fraudies.

It seems paxum etc, requires more for a new account, but we will see.

FiReC 01-04-2011 11:21 AM

definitely the same or more carders on paxum than there was on epass on a monthly basis for us.

I really hope they start doing some global warning list type stuff to flag these guys.

They are in the best position to do something about it, there is no service out there keeping track of these guys that sponsors can use.

It just makes sense for paxum to do it.

gleem 01-04-2011 11:24 AM

yes, I theorized with another webmaster last year what would happen if we dropped Epass and came to the same conclusion.. but at the same time 50% of my sales come from legit people using online E-pay deals so I can't afford to drop em completely.


I think Paxum should stepup and make a special section if you are a verified sponsor to submit paxum usernames that are webmasters trying to cheat so we can kill these guys before it gets as bad as Epass fraud. Or at the very least make the list of paxum usernames that are fraudulent available to the other site owners.

PR_Glen 01-04-2011 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 17819400)
Cheezeeee,you are such a pussies :1orglaugh

when 99% of fraud comes from one branch doesn't it make sense to cut it off? It should.

beerptrol 01-04-2011 11:35 AM

the wolves tend to follow the sheep

Profits of Doom 01-04-2011 11:35 AM

I think the big difference is Epass would let you open an account under any fake name and all you would need is a prepaid debit card that took direct deposit to link as your bank account. I just opened up my Paxum account and they do require ID scans and other identity documents, something Epass would only require after you received I believe over $5000. That alone should be a BIG difference...

gleem 01-04-2011 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Profits of Doom (Post 17819609)
I think the big difference is Epass would let you open an account under any fake name and all you would need is a prepaid debit card that took direct deposit to link as your bank account. I just opened up my Paxum account and they do require ID scans and other identity documents, something Epass would only require after you received I believe over $5000. That alone should be a BIG difference...

Apparently not, I am banning Paxum guys now every week when I do a payout check, and I'm a small revshare program, they must be all over the bigger PPS guys with Paxum payout option.

Klen 01-04-2011 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 17819576)
when 99% of fraud comes from one branch doesn't it make sense to cut it off? It should.

It does,but that still doesn't change a fact how you are pussies :1orglaugh

Klen 01-04-2011 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gleem (Post 17819696)
Apparently not, I am banning Paxum guys now every week when I do a payout check, and I'm a small revshare program, they must be all over the bigger PPS guys with Paxum payout option.

One tip:try to offer paxum only to proven webmasters where you made atleast 10 valid payments already,and for first ones only other types of payment.

PR_Glen 01-04-2011 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 17819707)
It does,but that still doesn't change a fact how you are pussies :1orglaugh

I'm sorry, I didn't realize you were thirteen...

u-Bob 01-04-2011 12:19 PM

please post the scamming accounts...

Klen 01-04-2011 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 17819756)
I'm sorry, I didn't realize you were thirteen...

I am just teasing you,dont be upset.I really dont care how pimproll running their business.

gleem 01-05-2011 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 17819775)
please post the scamming accounts...

I will from now on. here's a new thread for this:

http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/1004709-sponsors-list-cheating-webmaster-accounts-post17821842.html

MaDalton 01-05-2011 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Profits of Doom (Post 17819609)
I think the big difference is Epass would let you open an account under any fake name and all you would need is a prepaid debit card that took direct deposit to link as your bank account. I just opened up my Paxum account and they do require ID scans and other identity documents, something Epass would only require after you received I believe over $5000. That alone should be a BIG difference...

now you know why Epass lost Visa...


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