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DVTimes 01-25-2011 05:38 AM

if you owned playboy, what would you do with it?
 
Is the 'brand' worth more than the product these days?

These days is the mag now dead?

Do the playboy sites convert as well as other sites?

I suspect the brand/logo is worth more than the porn side these days.

I suspect you would make far more by simply leasing the brand out to firms, such as those who make clothes, or even just do your own playboy range of goods.

I wonder if the 'porn' side of playboy is now its negative side.

I see (in the UK) women and girls young as 5 wearing items of clothing with the playboy logo on them. Its not seen as porn these days but one of those 'pink' girly things. A bit like sindy is.

I do wonder if playboy now shouyld just supply girls with a range of products. And hire such as paris hilton to front/promote it all.

closer 01-25-2011 05:42 AM

in the hands of a great marketeer, the playboy emporium could be re-glamorised. Problem is, not so many great marketeers around

alf6300 01-25-2011 05:43 AM

that's pretty much what they're doing, mostly, no?

DVTimes 01-25-2011 05:44 AM

They say playboy is worth $200 million (link) which does not seem a lot for a company that is well known in many countries.

Personaly that silly old fart Hefner should now have nothing to do with playboy. He is a bit like Paul M. He lives in the past and thinks he knows best.

Its about time somone would have the guts to say, sod off you daft old coffin dodger, no one could care less what silly moo your pretending to have sex with.

DamianJ 01-25-2011 05:45 AM

You dribbling fucking retard, please, please just go back to B&B?

Your brilliant idea for PB is what they have been doing for the last 7 or 8 years.

You make ArseWithClass look clever, you spastic.

DVTimes 01-25-2011 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by closer (Post 17867696)
in the hands of a great marketeer, the playboy emporium could be re-glamorised. Problem is, not so many great marketeers around

I do not think it even takes a great one.

All you need is a few playboy apps, and lease the logo to be put onto a rage of iphones, flog a bit of playboy perfume, and get a car firm to do a range of cars named playboy (probably a french or italian car firm). You would make over 300 million proffit in a year.

DVTimes 01-25-2011 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 17867702)
You dribbling fucking retard, please, please just go back to B&B?

Your brilliant idea for PB is what they have been doing for the last 7 or 8 years.

You make ArseWithClass look clever, you spastic.

well my gay friend, i never said they were not did i?

cooldude7 01-25-2011 05:56 AM

i would lease playboy name for some millions for new products

alf6300 01-25-2011 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooldude7 (Post 17867719)
i would lease playboy name for some millions for new products

One problem is that the Playboy brand is perceived differently in different countries/cultures.

In the U.S. it's still a no-no for many mainstream brands, while in other countries (namely eastern/central Europe) you have the likes of P&G sponsoring Playboy events. And I saw, in Poland, middle aged housewives buying PB for tips on how to get dressed etc, and sharing them with their daughters. It's positioned/perceived not far from Cosmopolitan there, or maybe Vogue.

When you run a global brand, this inconsistency is an issue.

gideongallery 01-25-2011 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 17867708)
well my gay friend, i never said they were not did i?

so you solution is to basically do what has failed t get them out of the whole in the past and hope that it would succeed this time.

kane 01-25-2011 06:17 AM

The brand is clearly worth more than the products they sell right now. Walk down a street and ask people if they know what Playboy is and most people will say yes. Then ask them if they buy the magazine or subscribe to the sites and most will say no.

I had read that they plan to start opening up a chain of clubs and using the brand in other ways. That could be something that is very profitable for them if done correctly. I know Playboy clubs were once popular places, they could be again.

DVTimes 01-25-2011 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 17867749)
The brand is clearly worth more than the products they sell right now. Walk down a street and ask people if they know what Playboy is and most people will say yes. Then ask them if they buy the magazine or subscribe to the sites and most will say no.

I had read that they plan to start opening up a chain of clubs and using the brand in other ways. That could be something that is very profitable for them if done correctly. I know Playboy clubs were once popular places, they could be again.

i could see clubs damaging the brand.

playboy clubs are out of touch.

there are lots of table dancing clubs. in the uk these are now almost all nude. so unless playboy go full nude, i think they would not do well. and if they do go full nude then would people (women) want to buy playboy products?

you need to give the logo 'class'.

thats the hard thing they have to do is make the logo about quality.

in the uk i have seen the logo on some right old rubbish.

TheDoc 01-25-2011 06:23 AM

PB could turn itself around in less than 24 hours simply buy cutting the crazy ass stupid expenses it has.

It makes money... it just happens to spend a stupid amount of it at the same time.

TheDoc 01-25-2011 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 17867756)
i could see clubs damaging the brand.

playboy clubs are out of touch.

there are lots of table dancing clubs. in the uk these are now almost all nude. so unless playboy go full nude, i think they would not do well. and if they do go full nude then would people (women) want to buy playboy products?

you need to give the logo 'class'.

thats the hard thing they have to do is make the logo about quality.

in the uk i have seen the logo on some right old rubbish.


They lease the name out... the club is owned/operated by someone else.

closer 01-25-2011 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 17867707)
I do not think it even takes a great one.

All you need is a few playboy apps, and lease the logo to be put onto a rage of iphones, flog a bit of playboy perfume, and get a car firm to do a range of cars named playboy (probably a french or italian car firm). You would make over 300 million proffit in a year.

And are you suggesting all the things above are sprouted from your genius brain?

think again, been there done that bought the app

ass I said before ... it needs a great marketeer to re-glamorise it

Barefootsies 01-25-2011 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 17867700)
Personaly that silly old fart Hefner should now have nothing to do with playboy. He is a bit like Paul M. He lives in the past and thinks he knows best.


Paul Markham 01-25-2011 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by closer (Post 17867696)
in the hands of a great marketeer, the playboy emporium could be re-glamorised. Problem is, not so many great marketeers around

What about Manwin. Giving the product away is the new marketing. :1orglaugh

Quote:

Originally Posted by alf6300 (Post 17867745)
One problem is that the Playboy brand is perceived differently in different countries/cultures.

In the U.S. it's still a no-no for many mainstream brands, while in other countries (namely eastern/central Europe) you have the likes of P&G sponsoring Playboy events. And I saw, in Poland, middle aged housewives buying PB for tips on how to get dressed etc, and sharing them with their daughters. It's positioned/perceived not far from Cosmopolitan there, or maybe Vogue.

When you run a global brand, this inconsistency is an issue.

Very true. My 8 year old wanted a T Shirt with the Playboy Bunny on. Shocked that they even had those for 8 year olds.

Paul Markham 01-25-2011 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 17867700)
Personaly that silly old fart Hefner should now have nothing to do with playboy. He is a bit like Paul M. He lives in the past and thinks he knows best.

Better to have been a Has Been, than a Never Been and Never Will Be. :thumbsup

alf6300 01-25-2011 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17867758)
They lease the name out... the club is owned/operated by someone else.

As long as there's a bunny logo on it, this does not solve the brand issue that GP was mentioning.

RuthB 01-25-2011 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 17867749)
The brand is clearly worth more than the products they sell right now. Walk down a street and ask people if they know what Playboy is and most people will say yes. Then ask them if they buy the magazine or subscribe to the sites and most will say no.

I had read that they plan to start opening up a chain of clubs and using the brand in other ways. That could be something that is very profitable for them if done correctly. I know Playboy clubs were once popular places, they could be again.

They just launched one in Cancun

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...111204469.html

arock10 01-25-2011 09:52 AM

I'd periodically marry a 20 year old playboy model every 10 years I age

maxjohan 01-25-2011 10:25 AM

Just release a friggin energy drink already.

That's step one. Then step two is to take three hot women and build a pop & r&b band. Music.

Now, I don't know. Maybe they have done all these shit already. If not, get started.


Yes, the brand is stronger than the porn. No doubt about that. Start new magazines aimed for women instead. Like Tips n tricks from the playboy bunny. Just release a damn cookbook already. haha

TheDA 01-25-2011 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 17867702)
You dribbling fucking retard, please, please just go back to B&B?

Your brilliant idea for PB is what they have been doing for the last 7 or 8 years.

You make ArseWithClass look clever, you spastic.

He makes Joey Deacon look clever!

RuthB 01-25-2011 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxjohan (Post 17868272)
Just release a friggin energy drink already.

That's step one. Then step two is to take three hot women and build a pop & r&b band. Music.

Now, I don't know. Maybe they have done all these shit already. If not, get started.


Yes, the brand is stronger than the porn. No doubt about that. Start new magazines aimed for women instead. Like Tips n tricks from the playboy bunny. Just release a damn cookbook already. haha

They already did the energy drink, it doesn't actually taste bad either

http://blogphotos.cybertranslator.id...ergy-drink.jpg
(hotlink! :winkwink::warning)

http://www.playboyenergy.com/

Why 01-25-2011 10:37 AM

i think playboy is a healthy and very viable business. i would invest in it. but not under the old/current management when it was public.

VikingMan 01-25-2011 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 17867690)

I see (in the UK) women and girls young as 5 wearing items of clothing with the playboy logo on them.

Brilliant parents

CaptainHowdy 01-25-2011 10:42 AM

I don't know...

bronco67 01-25-2011 10:49 AM

Full penetration.

Phoenix 01-25-2011 10:51 AM

id sell it and be hanging out on a beach somewhere getting fit and exposing my son to as much of the world as i could
fuck working..lol

SiMpLe 01-25-2011 10:56 AM

I would just play with the monkeys all day and jizz in the jaccuzzi before the parties.

Agent 488 01-25-2011 10:57 AM

the brand is well known but needs rehabilitation. when you think of the bunny it feels old. reminds me of the 50s and archaic attitudes to sex, sexuality, men and women and lifestyles.

HD Content 01-25-2011 11:22 AM

I would have the model show way more PUSSY

bronco67 01-25-2011 11:44 AM

Less cookie cuttered blonde hairspray bitches that all look the same.

Buzz 01-25-2011 12:06 PM

I'd sell it and ran away with cash :)

seriously IMO Playboy is more than just porn magazine - it's LIFESTYLE. Probably I'd hire some top notch marketing guru to move brand towards the direction.

kane 01-25-2011 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 17867756)
i could see clubs damaging the brand.

playboy clubs are out of touch.

there are lots of table dancing clubs. in the uk these are now almost all nude. so unless playboy go full nude, i think they would not do well. and if they do go full nude then would people (women) want to buy playboy products?

you need to give the logo 'class'.

thats the hard thing they have to do is make the logo about quality.

in the uk i have seen the logo on some right old rubbish.

What if they went away from nudity all together and made them more like a Hooters instead of a regular club? You go in, get some decent food at a decent price, watch a game and hang out and be surrounded by hot girls dressed in the bunny outfits.

kane 01-25-2011 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RuthB (Post 17868128)

That sounds pretty sweet.

RuthB 01-25-2011 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 17868534)
That sounds pretty sweet.

I know! I have to head up to Cancun to check it out and have some fun :pimp

TheDoc 01-25-2011 12:29 PM

They would make more money opening the PlayBoy Mortuary in Mexico... This isn't 20 years ago when that was a smart idea to do this. Today Mexico is having a War, basically a Civil War and PB opens a club - truly not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

{Psycho} 01-25-2011 03:41 PM

At least first i would have banged each and every model real hard every night one by one

DVTimes 01-25-2011 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 17868531)
What if they went away from nudity all together and made them more like a Hooters instead of a regular club? You go in, get some decent food at a decent price, watch a game and hang out and be surrounded by hot girls dressed in the bunny outfits.

i wonder if people would go.

it seems so 70's.

i have seen uk playboy bunny clubs and they look naff.

they only realy work if you have wealthy going. that was the idea of the uk clubs.

DVTimes 01-25-2011 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ******* (Post 17868306)
Brilliant parents

thing is, many i would say see the playboy bunny as non porn.

its the sort of thing you see in the back window of a hairdressers car.

in the uk if a girl is into pink stuff, chances are she will have somthing with the playboy bunny on it. its not got a porn conection.

in the uk playboy did have an upmarket image. but that was the 70's.

JA$ON 01-25-2011 05:24 PM

Shut it all down (minus the licensing)

Thats the only part of the company worth anything moving forward.

kane 01-25-2011 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 17869269)
i wonder if people would go.

it seems so 70's.

i have seen uk playboy bunny clubs and they look naff.

they only realy work if you have wealthy going. that was the idea of the uk clubs.

It is hard to say. If they made them like Hooters I think some people would go, but like the one mentioned above they made it an all encompassing casino/resort/club type of place. If they built those in vacation hot spots they could attract a lot of attention to them I think.

The one major problem with a Hooters type place would be the stigma of the name. A lot of people would think it was a strip club or they would associate it with naked women and might steer clear of it.

Big Red Machine 01-25-2011 09:31 PM

Playboy has an Iconic History. Hef was the original gansta, strutting around like James Bond. He had the cars, women, and freedom. The Ultimate Bachelor. If they just updated their own brand, cause to me it has taken on an out dated feel. They should come out with a Reality show where Hef passes the touch to a Apprentice, cause no one really buys that Hef is banging them broads.

ShellyCrash 01-25-2011 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 17867700)
Personaly that silly old fart Hefner should now have nothing to do with playboy. He is a bit like Paul M. He lives in the past and thinks he knows best.

Its about time somone would have the guts to say, sod off you daft old coffin dodger, no one could care less what silly moo your pretending to have sex with.


http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...ont-read-1.jpg

Seth Manson 01-25-2011 11:45 PM

I'd do what Hef does.

Two or three playmates at the same time.

TheSenator 01-25-2011 11:48 PM

FTV GIRLS is the new Playboy....Im just saying

Seth Manson 01-25-2011 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 17869834)
FTV GIRLS is the new Playboy....Im just saying

FTV Girls is nice, but it doesnt come close to Playboy.

marlboroack 01-26-2011 01:41 AM

Girls are nice. Agree?

DVTimes 01-26-2011 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 17869834)
FTV GIRLS is the new Playboy....Im just saying

i think you have a point.

sites such as that, metart and so on seem to do what playboy did, but to be honest far better.

playboy is like the uk woolworths. they did everything ok, but not great, and other shops simply did things better, while woolworths lived in the past.

in the uk, nuts, hfm, zoo and many more mags set up. they had topless and nude pics likeplayboy (soft porn), but did it much better, and have become big sellers. playboy never changed or brought out other mags. it lives in the past.

playboy should have become the no 1 site on the net. but the sites just do not grab me.


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