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DVTimes 01-27-2011 05:32 PM

i thought the usa was in debt
 
but japan is badly in debt too.

Klen 01-27-2011 05:33 PM

Is this fatfoo?

closer 01-27-2011 05:34 PM

thanks for the obvious

MaDalton 01-27-2011 05:35 PM

make a list of those countries that are not - that will be shorter

Vendzilla 01-27-2011 05:38 PM

Japan did the stimulus route, 10 times

Serge Litehead 01-27-2011 05:47 PM

debt is a new wealth
congrats to the winners

wig 01-27-2011 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17874210)
Japan did the stimulus route, 10 times

Japan also reversed the stimulus policy in 1997 with a sales tax hike, which proved to be too soon. Then, since their policy interest rates were already at zero, they proceeded to drag their feet performing any quantitative easing (creating money -- what the US did in QE2).

They also hid the toxic assets on the banks balance sheets -- something the US is not doing (or at least not to as great of an extent as Japan did).

So far, the monetary and fiscal policies executed in the US have had the intended effect (ie; preventing the economy from slipping into a deflationary spiral / liquidity trap, which was well on its way).

Of course, the US faces the problem of future tightening of fiscal stimulus as the pressure for austerity measures mount politically.

Be careful what you ask for.

CaptainHowdy 01-27-2011 06:16 PM

The systems fuels itself with debt LOL...

DVTimes 01-27-2011 06:35 PM

Japans debt is: $10.6 trillion

But think about the size of Japan.

Thats crazy.

DVTimes 01-27-2011 06:37 PM

USA is $14.015 trillion but then again its surly much largar than Japan.

Plus the usa is spending loads on wars, weapons and so on.

What is japan spending the cash on?

{Psycho} 01-27-2011 06:38 PM

I guess UK and India are not in debts

DVTimes 01-27-2011 06:41 PM

USA population: 281,421,906
Japan population: 126,549,976

so for a country that has about half the population of the usa, it sure is in the deep brown stuff.

DVTimes 01-27-2011 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by {Psycho} (Post 17874306)
I guess UK and India are not in debts

nost countries are.

but japan seems vastly more in debt. plus its a country i presumed was doing well. ie exports in cars and electronic goods.

and they have no wars to spend money on.

i am not sure by law they are even allowed to buy weapons (i forget the internatiol law that kicked in after ww2). so they have no real bills.

wig 01-27-2011 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 17874297)
Japans debt is: $10.6 trillion

But think about the size of Japan.

Thats crazy.

For sure. That's the bad news for Japan. They have some advantages, also.

The bad news for the US is that the US private sector is more indebted than Japan was, which will make it even harder to get the "pump primed".

jonnydoe 01-27-2011 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 17874206)
make a list of those countries that are not - that will be shorter

1) China
2)
3)
4)
5)

Serge Litehead 01-27-2011 07:04 PM

outdated but still interesting nonetheless debt vs. gdp:

http://www.visualeconomics.com/wp-co...ional-debt.gif

http://www.visualeconomics.com/gdp-v...bt-by-country/

HomerSimpson 01-27-2011 09:29 PM

wow
Zimbabwe seems to be the leader... (percentage wise)
who is giving them more money anyway?
and why?

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonnydoe (Post 17874330)
1) China
2)
3)
4)
5)

Emirates
Libya
Russia


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