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cherrylula 02-03-2011 07:07 AM

Global warming?? where's Al Gore??
 
It's SNOWING in New Orleans again! TOO COLD.

We're not used to this weather! My house is like a cheesebox and the floor is freezing cold.

At least it's killing all the vegetation. :1orglaugh

CaptainHowdy 02-03-2011 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 17888769)
At least it's killing all the vegetation. :1orglaugh

http://www.microsiervos.com/images/the-road.jpg

spazlabz 02-03-2011 07:11 AM

Palm face
it is not GLOBAL WARMING
it IS CLIMATE CHANGE

and snowing in Nor'Leans kinda proves the point

PornGreen 02-03-2011 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by spazlabz (Post 17888777)
Palm face
it is not GLOBAL WARMING
it IS CLIMATE CHANGE

and snowing in Nor'Leans kinda proves the point

i know right. how do people not get this??

if it gets hotter, its man made global warming climate change

if it gets colder, its man made global warming climate change

they have all bases covered.

got it people?

GatorB 02-03-2011 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 17888769)
It's SNOWING in New Orleans again! TOO COLD.

We're not used to this weather! My house is like a cheesebox and the floor is freezing cold.

At least it's killing all the vegetation. :1orglaugh

Wh don't you educate yourself on the effects of global warming. You'll find things like this are actually one of those results.

cherrylula 02-03-2011 07:23 AM

hey PornGreen, are you TGF? Mr. JP? lol hey whats uppppp if so homie

cherrylula 02-03-2011 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 17888805)
Wh don't you educate yourself on the effects of global warming. You'll find things like this are actually one of those results.

It's just a thread, to whine and complain in. I don't have time for that but thanks for the suggestion.

I know Choker made a similar thread a while back, people were arguing all day about global warming. Go for it! :helpme

maxxtro 02-03-2011 07:27 AM

ManBearPig is not a joke, you asshole

cherrylula 02-03-2011 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by maxxtro (Post 17888821)
ManBearPig is not a joke, you asshole

LOL! hahahahahaha yesss

love southpark like craaaazy

Brujah 02-03-2011 07:33 AM

Listen.

Al Gore is a Democrat.

Democrats only have your best interests in mind.

TheDoc 02-03-2011 07:33 AM

It's been much colder, so much so most of our homes would be under a mile thick layer of ice. It's been much hotter before too, so much so most of us wouldn't have drinking water if it happened today.

Welcome to earth.. where things change with or without humans.

TheDoc 02-03-2011 07:36 AM

..... February 15, 1895 - New Orleans Snowfall 9 inches. It snowed like this from Galveston Texas across the gulf States.

While it's rare, it's not uncommon - it has happened in your life several times before.

BestXXXPorn 02-03-2011 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17888829)
It's been much colder, so much so most of our homes would be under a mile thick layer of ice. It's been much hotter before too, so much so most of us wouldn't have drinking water if it happened today.

Welcome to earth.. where things change with or without humans.

Exactly, as if a few thousands years of recorded history, and even less of recorded weather history was even a blip on the timeline for how long this planet has been around...

Essentially global warming is akin to a faith based religion... it's non-falsifiable.

I'm not saying we shouldn't be working towards a "greener" planet as it seems to be a no brainer to NOT pollute the Earth. We're getting there though! So many amazing electric cars with crazy ass batteries coming out of the next several years. It's pretty exciting really :)

Brujah 02-03-2011 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BestXXXPorn (Post 17888838)
I'm not saying we shouldn't be working towards a "greener" planet

yes you are, greedy capitalist scum

BestXXXPorn 02-03-2011 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 17888843)
yes you are, greedy capitalist scum

LOL, ya' got me. I'm saying we need a black, scorched earth. The kind where robots have stripped the planet of all its resources in order to build copies of themselves to stamp out the human resistance!

Brujah 02-03-2011 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BestXXXPorn (Post 17888862)
LOL, ya' got me. I'm saying we need a black, scorched earth. The kind where robots have stripped the planet of all its resources in order to build copies of themselves to stamp out the human resistance!

I knew it.

http://www.adolfthegreat.com/site/fi...rchedEarth.jpg

brassmonkey 02-03-2011 08:01 AM

it's cold here in Az in the 20's last nite :(

Coup 02-03-2011 08:01 AM

Glenn Beck is a CIA PLANT

cherrylula 02-03-2011 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17888836)
..... February 15, 1895 - New Orleans Snowfall 9 inches. It snowed like this from Galveston Texas across the gulf States.

While it's rare, it's not uncommon - it has happened in your life several times before.

yeah it snows here a little almost every year now it seems... the first time I cracked up like crazy and took pics! the cold doesn't last long though...

u-Bob 02-03-2011 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by spazlabz (Post 17888777)
Palm face
it is not GLOBAL WARMING
it IS CLIMATE CHANGE

and snowing in Nor'Leans kinda proves the point

In the 80s they were warning us that the next ice age was coming.
10 years later they started warning us for global warming...
When their predictions were proven wrong they changed the name to climate change...

I wonder what they will come up with next to scare people in giving up their money...

TurboAngel 02-03-2011 08:10 AM

I'm so glad we don't have any snow! It was 60 yesterday and now it's 32.

EonBlue 02-03-2011 08:12 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interglacial

Warmer = better.

:2 cents:

pornguy 02-03-2011 08:26 AM

going to be in the 80's today for us. Even had to turn on the AC for a few hours last night.

Rochard 02-03-2011 08:36 AM

In the 1980s they told us we were heading towards an ice age. I think they honestly have no idea what's going on. We are seeing extreme weather - hotter summers, and snow in odd places. Huge storms. It's just a huge cycle of mother nature - one we've never seen before.

EonBlue 02-03-2011 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17888919)
In the 1980s they told us we were heading towards an ice age. I think they honestly have no idea what's going on. We are seeing extreme weather - hotter summers, and snow in odd places. Huge storms. It's just a huge cycle of mother nature - one we've never seen before.

We are heading towards an ice age, inevitably. 20,000 years ago there was 2 kilometers of ice over where I now sit. 20,000 years from now there probably will be again.

alf6300 02-03-2011 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BestXXXPorn (Post 17888838)
Exactly, as if a few thousands years of recorded history, and even less of recorded weather history was even a blip on the timeline for how long this planet has been around...

We are pretty good at figuring out stuff that happened way before humans were around.

For example, we don't need to rely on recorded history to know that the earth went through a number of ice ages.

Nobody seriously thinks that the earth was never covered in ice, just because we have "no recorded history" of it.

We also have no recorded history of the tectonic shift, or photographs of the dinosaurs, nor did I ever see in person the dead body of Elvis. Indirect evidence, in such cases, is just as good for anybody not wearing a tinfoil hat.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BestXXXPorn (Post 17888838)
Essentially global warming is akin to a faith based religion... it's non-falsifiable.

Wrong, sorry.
Religion makes no falsifiable predictions (except when it says that the world will end in 2012, of course.)

Climate scientists make PLENTY of predictions that are very easy to check.
They do it all the time, it's pretty much their job (albeit certainly not on a month-by-month or zipcode-by-zipcode basis).

Make a small model of the earth and put it under the sun. It gets considerably hotter if you fill the atmosphere of your small model with co2.

That's essentially what climatologists do, and extrapolate the data to see how much co2 will make the global temperature hotter, and when. A very falsifiable prediction, indeed.

Sadly, the model and predictions have not been falsified yet: quite the contrary. So I would prefer not to bet my ass and my kids ass that they are wrong, but that's indeed what we are doing.

seeandsee 02-03-2011 08:41 AM

-7 here and i say global cock warming in their asses

EonBlue 02-03-2011 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by alf6300 (Post 17888926)
Make a small model of the earth and put it under the sun. It gets considerably hotter if you fill the atmosphere of your small model with co2.

That's essentially what climatologists do, and extrapolate the data to see how much co2 will make the global temperature hotter, and when. A very falsifiable prediction, indeed.

Sadly, the model and predictions have not been falsified yet: quite the contrary. So I would prefer not to bet my ass and my kids ass that they are wrong, but that's indeed what we are doing.

The correlation between increased CO2 causing increased temperature has been falsified.

Tom_PM 02-03-2011 09:34 AM

These days you can just flip on the tv network that comports with the views you already hold true and be right all day long. It's funny how when the world gets smaller, larger divides open up. Well, not funny really. Just strange.

I mean hell, I guess there actually ARE people who ACTUALLY dont believe that green houses do anything. They dont trap any gas, they dont warm up inside. It's identical inside one as it is outside one. Amazing.

Dirty Dane 02-03-2011 09:39 AM

2010 was the warmest year on record globally.

Caligari 02-03-2011 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Coup (Post 17888867)
Glenn Beck is a CIA PLANT

well at least he's some kind of vegetation;)

hey at least Mardi Gras isn't until March this year, should warm up by then.

Caligari 02-03-2011 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 17888929)
-7 here and i say global cock warming in their asses

hey you can't steal my new niche, i've been shooting global cock warming anal sex vids for the last month so don't even think about it:mad:

PornGreen 02-03-2011 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17888919)
In the 1980s they told us we were heading towards an ice age. I think they honestly have no idea what's going on. We are seeing extreme weather - hotter summers, and snow in odd places. Huge storms. It's just a huge cycle of mother nature - one we've never seen before.

what's extreme about it? because the media says so? extreme compared to what? the last 10 years out of 13 billion?

there is nothing extreme going on with the weather. people fail to realize the incredible range of weather this planet has and will always experience, and that range is completely normal because it always has and always will happen on this planet.

PornGreen 02-03-2011 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane (Post 17889126)
2010 was the warmest year on record globally.

how long is that record?

how old is the planet?

BestXXXPorn 02-03-2011 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by alf6300 (Post 17888926)
Wrong, sorry.
Religion makes no falsifiable predictions (except when it says that the world will end in 2012, of course.)

Climate scientists make PLENTY of predictions that are very easy to check.
They do it all the time, it's pretty much their job (albeit certainly not on a month-by-month or zipcode-by-zipcode basis).

Make a small model of the earth and put it under the sun. It gets considerably hotter if you fill the atmosphere of your small model with co2.

That's essentially what climatologists do, and extrapolate the data to see how much co2 will make the global temperature hotter, and when. A very falsifiable prediction, indeed.

Sadly, the model and predictions have not been falsified yet: quite the contrary. So I would prefer not to bet my ass and my kids ass that they are wrong, but that's indeed what we are doing.

I should have clarified, sorry 'bout that. I'm not talking about the direct cause/effect... which is still up for debate even. What I'm referring to is the idea that this is bad... I mean, after all, mother nature contributes VAST amounts of CO2 into their air... something like 10% - 20% of what all humans contribute but still, no small amount...

Additionally, there have been a few papers publisher in the past year or so that show how the ice caps are melting faster from undersea volcanic activity... It seems to me that the Earth is cyclic in nature we are just speeding up that process.

The thing is, no amount of cap and trade bills, additional taxes on oil companies, etc... is going to change a fucking thing. What the world needs is a commercially viable alternative to burning oil and those extra taxes levied on oil companies reduce the amount of R&D capital they have to spend. Oil companies, after all, spend more money developing alternative fuel sources than any other market segment. They know their days are numbered and the first one to a product, wins.

My problem with Global Warming is that it's still under debate yet it's being used as a key decision maker to ramrod through additional regulation and taxation across the board...

The ONLY real solution is to create commercially viable alternative fuel sources; and by commercially viable, I mean, affordable. We also need to move to more nuclear power plants and away from the old school coal burning pieces of crap :P THEN we will see mass amounts of reduced greenhouse gases. It's coming, the people want it, the planet wants it, there IS a need and that need will be filled and when it is; may the best product win.

TheSenator 02-03-2011 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by spazlabz (Post 17888777)
Palm face
it is not GLOBAL WARMING
it IS CLIMATE CHANGE

and snowing in Nor'Leans kinda proves the point

I hear this everyday in New Jersey!

_Richard_ 02-03-2011 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 17888805)
Wh don't you educate yourself on the effects of global warming. You'll find things like this are actually one of those results.

that's PERPOSTEROUSESSSESSS

_Richard_ 02-03-2011 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by PornGreen (Post 17889148)
how long is that record?

how old is the planet?

1850?

plus they can take core samples and gauge temperatures/climate on an 'extremely educated guess' premise going back a lot longer than that

Tom_PM 02-03-2011 10:30 AM

Clean coal. Now thats a myth.

PornGreen 02-03-2011 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 17889287)
plus they can take core samples and gauge temperatures/climate on an 'extremely educated guess' premise going back a lot longer than that

and what were those temperate ranges?

TheDoc 02-03-2011 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by PornGreen (Post 17889327)
and what were those temperate ranges?

Exactly.... they are extreme!

20 degrees hotter across the entire planet, frozen across the entire planet, cycles of it happening almost instantly, cycles of it happening slowly, local areas with totally different temps/weather, ice caps that have totally melted and glaciers on the equator are even possible, entire destruction, rebuilding, recycling... far worse, far better - we are currently somewhere in the middle right now.

PornGreen 02-03-2011 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane (Post 17889126)
2010 was the warmest year on record globally.

http://www.scotese.com/images/globaltemp.jpg

tony286 02-03-2011 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17889344)
Exactly.... they are extreme!

20 degrees hotter across the entire planet, frozen across the entire planet, cycles of it happening almost instantly, cycles of it happening slowly, local areas with totally different temps/weather, ice caps that have totally melted and glaciers on the equator are even possible, entire destruction, rebuilding, recycling... far worse, far better - we are currently somewhere in the middle right now.


There qctually isnt a debate. The pentagon issued report on it during the bush yrs. The debate is science vs companies that have a vested interest in keeping things the way they are. Al gore doesnt benefit from this but if the noise machine creates doubt then the oil and coal benefit.

EonBlue 02-03-2011 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane (Post 17889126)
2010 was the warmest year on record globally.

Based on what record and of what reliability? How long have we been gathering reliable and consistent temperature records globally?

According to paleo-climate reconstructions it has been far warmer in the past than it is now. Why all the panic?

EonBlue 02-03-2011 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 17889376)
There qctually isnt a debate. The pentagon issued report on it during the bush yrs. The debate is science vs companies that have a vested interest in keeping things the way they are. Al gore doesnt benefit from this but if the noise machine creates doubt then the oil and coal benefit.

No, the debate is between science and governments along with their NGO environmentalist groups who have a vested interest in increased regulation, increased taxation and new revenue streams beneficial to themselves.

And Al Gore has profited to the tune of millions and millions of dollars pushing this global warming hysteria.

PR_Glen 02-03-2011 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alf6300 (Post 17888926)
We are pretty good at figuring out stuff that happened way before humans were around.

For example, we don't need to rely on recorded history to know that the earth went through a number of ice ages.

Nobody seriously thinks that the earth was never covered in ice, just because we have "no recorded history" of it.

We also have no recorded history of the tectonic shift, or photographs of the dinosaurs, nor did I ever see in person the dead body of Elvis. Indirect evidence, in such cases, is just as good for anybody not wearing a tinfoil hat.



Wrong, sorry.
Religion makes no falsifiable predictions (except when it says that the world will end in 2012, of course.)

Climate scientists make PLENTY of predictions that are very easy to check.
They do it all the time, it's pretty much their job (albeit certainly not on a month-by-month or zipcode-by-zipcode basis).

Make a small model of the earth and put it under the sun. It gets considerably hotter if you fill the atmosphere of your small model with co2.

That's essentially what climatologists do, and extrapolate the data to see how much co2 will make the global temperature hotter, and when. A very falsifiable prediction, indeed.

Sadly, the model and predictions have not been falsified yet: quite the contrary. So I would prefer not to bet my ass and my kids ass that they are wrong, but that's indeed what we are doing.

your faith in the accuracy of a science that is based on a best guess mentality is just as crazy and believable as the 10 commandments were derived from a burning bush...

Either find jesus or try figuring out the difference between fact and estimation and your arguments may hold more water...

brassmonkey 02-03-2011 11:35 AM

where are the gfy scientist ? :1orglaugh :helpme

_Richard_ 02-03-2011 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17889344)
Exactly.... they are extreme!

20 degrees hotter across the entire planet, frozen across the entire planet, cycles of it happening almost instantly, cycles of it happening slowly, local areas with totally different temps/weather, ice caps that have totally melted and glaciers on the equator are even possible, entire destruction, rebuilding, recycling... far worse, far better - we are currently somewhere in the middle right now.

thing is, there wasn't 7 billion self-involved animals that have no problem dumping a wide range of gases liquids and solids in places those things shouldn't be

so yea, all of us have heard this argument before, if anyone here wants to stick their heads in the sand, i suggest you do that.

again, i suggest you stick your heads in the sand on a beach area. don't leave.

TheDoc 02-03-2011 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 17889662)
thing is, there wasn't 7 billion self-involved animals that have no problem dumping a wide range of gases liquids and solids in places those things shouldn't be

so yea, all of us have heard this argument before, if anyone here wants to stick their heads in the sand, i suggest you do that.

again, i suggest you stick your heads in the sand on a beach area. don't leave.

Every chemical we're saying today is causing us harm has been greatly higher and lower, from the air to the water, well before humans influenced them.

And like before, it's all recycled.

alf6300 02-03-2011 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 17889553)
your faith in the accuracy of a science that is based on a best guess mentality is just as crazy and believable as the 10 commandments were derived from a burning bush...

What's your definition of a "science based on a best guess mentality"?

If by that you want to mean a science that employs "statistical models", then yes: I quite believe that statistical models are useful indeed - without them you would not have the computer on which you are typing your message, nor your air conditioning.

You would probably not even want to take a life-saving drung, because clinical trials are also based on statistical models ("best guesses" as you call them, and it's a decent wording and not an insult at all for any science. Best guesses in science are what make you now live 80 years instead of 35 just a little time ago).


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