what's yer thinking on this one?
 

I have never seen the white side explained better!

Pat Buchanan had the guts to say it.
It is about time.
BUCHANAN TO OBAMA
By Patrick J. Buchanan

Barack says we need to have a conversation about race in America .. Fair enough. But this time, it has to be a two-way conversation.. White America needs to be heard from, not just lectured to... This time, the Silent Majority needs to have its convictions, grievances and demands heard. And among them are these:

First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Chris tian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known Wright ought to go down on his knees and thank God he is an American.

Second, no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the ' 60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream. Governments, businesses and colleges have engaged in discrimination against white folks -- with affirmative action, contract set-asides and quotas -- to advance black applicants over white applicants. Churches, foundations, civic groups, schools and individuals all over America have donated their time and money to support soup kitchens, adult education, day care, retirement and nursing homes for blacks.

We hear the grievances.
Where is the gratitude??

Barack talks about new 'ladders of opportunity' for blacks. Let him go to Altoona ? And Johnstown , and ask the white kids in Catholic schools how many were visited lately by Ivy League recruiters handing out scholarships for 'deserving' white kids..? Is white America really responsible for the fact that the crime and incarceration rates for African-Americans are seven times those of white America ? Is it really white America 's fault that illegitimacy in the African-American community has hit 70 percent and the black dropout rate from high schools in some cities has reached 50 percent?

Is that the fault of white America or, first and foremost, a failure of the black community itself?

As for racism, its ugliest manifestation is in interracial crime, and especially interracial crimes of violence. Is Barack Obama aware that while white criminals choose black victims 3 percent of the time, black criminals choose white victims 45 percent of the time?

Is Barack aware that black-on-white rapes are 100 times more common than the reverse, that black-on-white robberies were 139 times as common in the first three years of this decade as the reverse?

We have all heard ad nauseam from the Rev. Al about Tawana Brawley, the Duke rape case and Jena . And all turned out to be hoaxes. But about the epidemic of black assaults on whites that are real, we hear nothing.

Sorry, Barack, some of us have heard it all before, about 40 years and 40 trillion tax dollars ago.
This needs to be passed around because,

this is a message everyone needs to hear!!!

OK..........
will you pass it on ?
YES. I did but will you?
Because I'm for a better America

pat knows where his bread is buttered: some white people's fear and hatred of the non-white, a wink and a nod to the anti-semitic and neo-nazi underground.

so you don't think we have bent over backwards for the bros?

i know you dislike non-whites from your constant whining about them.

have heard that shit a million times. who cares?

Racist Propaganda. If you are going to be racist, at least be like those hard core Nazi's who aren't afraid to stand up for what they believe in.

Don't beat around the bush.

How much do you think the HOA fees are for a gated community in the ghetto? Price check anyone?

interesting comments... interesting how you both immediately attack me. personally I have on interest in blacks one way or the other. :2 cents:

2 r0x and a go with your sister.

that's the thing about LA... areas can be very close.

Saw some pimp documentary on the la based "Nazi Low Riders", maybe you should check out what they are up to. Get involved.

so which parts of that are factually false? all of it?

lol... stupid

you posts bear consistent animosity to non-whites, don't kid yourself. you are not posting this due to some interest in objective facts.

attention moron: the NLR is a prison gang started by Charles Manson... try and and at lest be relevant in your attempts to be derogatory.

now read this very carefully, spell it out if you have to... make sure you understand: I AM SOFA KING WE TODD DID.. :thumbsup :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

pull up the rest of the post dick wad

Charles Manson is a folk hero, I am glad to hear he has branched out.

I figured you are a loser... now I know for sure... :2 cents:

interestingly enough it's not a skin color, to me at any rate, it's a culture as near as I can tell... the 'blacks' I've worked with from 'not america' are pretty much highly educated and hard working... there are a few guys living in the building I live in that are very damn sharp too...

No one cares douchebag.

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yeah I hope the prez gets thing going in a better direction for sure..

you cared enough to try and pretend you are intellegent... (FAIL) :thumbsup

Yeah, fail. LRN2SPELL

spell check. sorta busy working for a living etc...here email 'iepsell' and give em hell :thumbsup:1orglaugh:pimp

Divide and Conquer!

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I think it appears that 'we' have bent over backwards from the bros, but in reality with the exception of affirmative action which I have always been against, those social programs being discussed are for the benefit of all races.

Wrong.. back in the late 80's when I wanted to be a fireman I was told by some firemen to not even waste my time because all they were hiring were blacks and women because they were low on the quota for them. White men had no chance.
(Reno, Nevada)

ummm... yes that is called affirmative action which I pointed out I have always been against

all i've learned from this thread is some white people can't spell and can't read.

who are you calling a chess piece! :mad:

I don't like racism. :pimp

seems as if the human race is still 'tribal' in some respects and 'racism' is just a symptom of that. I don't really see or experience or any racism on a daily basis. but I do think urban 'culture' is crude, vulgar and focused on hubris at best tho....

yeah
 

I agree, :thumbsup

it's almost if as people base their identity on a negative not a positive.... i.e. I'm not like them, they are diffent than me, as opposed to hey! I'm like those guys...

t sowel as a book out about the cultuer... calling urban culture a disused Celtic culture that no longer serves the 'upwardly mobile class'.

in the book he writes that an average black slave in 1835 lived in a small wood frame house with a wood floor and lived to the average age of 35 while an Irish man in Ireland lived in a shack with a mud floor and lived to an average age of 24.

interesting enough you'll see a Mexican man or woman selling fruit/flowers on the side of the road while on another corner will be a black OR white guy begging for money. all the Latin crews I've worked with have been awesome guys, their kids raised here... that's another deal for sure...

my gaffer is from Guatemala. came with his family when he was 8 years old... didn't speak any English. I think he told me his dad like $200 and they lived with another family from the old country etc.. his dad now has 3 dental offices and my gaffer is a great hard working very smart guy. he speaks spanish yet has no spanish accent.

he livies in Downy and the local gang morons are all white guys that live at home and fuck fat chicks :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

That is definitely a logical theory that only has the one drawback of assuming intent on the legislation. You have more faith in our political leaders to think things through to that depth. I assume they wanted to win votes and that was an expedient political move to achieve the ends they wanted.

I think almost every friend I have has a story of affirmative action going awry, I know I have a couple myself. I think if we are going to integrate the 'pitbulls' into society it requires a strong social network to support and educate those we want to have the right flavor in the melting pot.

I know that last sentence sounds like something that could have come out of NAZI Germany, but the intent of it is to say that education and common goals should be shared within society and the burden to make it so lies with us. Affirmative action goes against this as it has always been and will always be a divisive tool wielded by one group against another.

its like slicing bread with a hammer :helpme

+1 :thumbsup

the guy in Singapore dealt with this issue of 'aptitude' in a very straight forward manor that works out great while here we have the of oddity of political correctness to deal with. by current societal attitudes I should be a power forward for the lakers... and the fact that I'm not is racism, as well as bias against age and ability. :1orglaugh

BTW when the only tool you have is a hammer every problem is a nail