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mattseo 02-15-2011 09:49 AM

VideoSecrets Scam for Whitelabel Sites - terrible trick
 
I was picking my brains on why one of my adult site who uses the VideoSecrets.com white label solution was not having a increase in rank.
If you have a white Label with VideoSecrets.com views your source code and look for
<link rel="canonical" href="http://www.flirt4free.com/" /> this tells Google your preferred domain is video secrets own domain flirt4free.com passing 0 rank to your white label and all the links you ever created to pass the link juice to flirt4free.com video secrets own domain + sometimes the canonical tag will tell Google there is no point indexing your own site and index the url within the canonical tag..

This needs the boss of Video Secrets to formally apologise to all their affiliates.
What a terrible trick how can we trust them now:mad:

Matt

CaptainHowdy 02-15-2011 10:01 AM

Welcome to 2011 ...

B.Barnato 02-15-2011 10:10 AM

i am not sure if in your name seo is a joke

mattseo 02-15-2011 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B.Barnato (Post 17916803)
i am not sure if in your name seo is a joke


It's a very funny Joke, I'm just trying to help other affiliates..

Stef. 02-15-2011 10:15 AM

rogue employee, once again...
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mattseo 02-15-2011 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RSTGP_Stef (Post 17916822)
rogue employee, once again...
.

so do you think a rogue employee added the code and not told the boss.?

Domain Diva 02-15-2011 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattseo (Post 17916829)
so do you think a rogue employee added the code and not told the boss.?

He is just winding you up Matt..many use the excuse " it must have been done by a rogue employee " when something like this happens.

Thanks for the info ,

Jdoughs 02-15-2011 10:29 AM

Send them an invoice for the link juice. And if you haven't yet, remove links to the whitelabel as it's doing more for them then you.

A shit load of paysites/sponsors do this with their paysites as well.

Steal and manipulate your link juice/traffic, and ensure any type-ins or random search traffic goes straight to the paysite WITHOUT any affiliate code tagged on.

mattseo 02-15-2011 10:40 AM

keeping the site up for a few days, so you guys and girls can see the code..

DWB 02-15-2011 10:40 AM

Remove their links, never look back.

If you continue to do business with people who scam you, then there is no one to blame but yourself when you come up empty handed.

Fat Panda 02-15-2011 10:45 AM

just noticed that, wtf that is bullshit...i just set up a white label with them and am pulling it

~Ray 02-15-2011 10:46 AM

booo on them.... boo

Fat Panda 02-15-2011 11:12 AM

Video Secrets can we get some answers on this bullshit?

chief99 02-15-2011 11:20 AM

bump. I like to get an answer as well.

2intense 02-15-2011 11:23 AM

bump,i don't care ....:1orglaugh but that sucks anyway

cam_girls 02-15-2011 12:14 PM

Here's the fix:

Quote:

<link rel="canonical" href="http://www.camgirls.com/">

2intense 02-15-2011 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cam_girls (Post 17917119)
Here's the fix:

WOW - Genius :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Agent 488 02-15-2011 01:47 PM

lets see your whitelabel.

PussyMaster 02-16-2011 12:47 AM

bump for answer

darksoul 02-16-2011 12:49 AM

thats pretty fucked up

Tjeezers 02-16-2011 12:59 AM

removing today 3 WL`s and sending them to competition, thank you

Roald 02-16-2011 01:00 AM

Don't see it on www.freeoneslive.com am I missing something?

Miguel T 02-16-2011 01:02 AM

Drop links dude... that is really uncool.

Machete_ 02-16-2011 01:16 AM

we've seen other programs pull this kind of scam in the past

slavdogg 02-16-2011 01:32 AM

i dont see a problem with it.
VS should continue doing this, they should stay firm and not give it a Gfy inspired revolution.

mattseo 02-16-2011 02:25 AM

[QUOTE=cam_girls;17917119]Here's the fix:[/QUOTE

Won't let you add your own <link rel="canonical" Tag , they have this covered.

mattseo 02-16-2011 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 17918526)
Don't see it on www.freeoneslive.com am I missing something?

Your site is not a standard white label with VS

mattseo 02-16-2011 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17917421)
lets see your whitelabel.


My White Label is http://www.letsgetiton.eu/ view the source

american pervert 02-16-2011 05:12 AM

greg and chuck are way too stupid to think up that, esp chuck, he's border line tarded.

My guess, someone suggested it at a meeting and they ok'd it. that is if they even bothered to come into that office that day.... when you usurp a company you didn't bother to put any time into then claim you thought up the whole sha-bang it leaves you free time to count your money.

PussyMaster 02-16-2011 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattseo (Post 17918595)
My White Label is http://www.letsgetiton.eu/ view the source

indeed. And the bottom link Models Wanted is fucking redirect directly to http://broadcasting.vs.com/signup.php without aff code. :1orglaugh
Dropped their shitty links now.

mattseo 02-16-2011 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PussyMaster (Post 17918715)
indeed. And the bottom link Models Wanted is fucking redirect directly to http://broadcasting.vs.com/signup.php without aff code. :1orglaugh
Dropped their shitty links now.


FK I did not notice that... I will leave www.letsgetiton.eu up for a few weeks , feel free to screen grab the source code before VS removes the proof..

TheDoc 02-16-2011 07:25 AM

With most whitelabels you can request changes... just ask to have that removed.

And it probably wasn't put in on purpose, I'm sure some template designer added in and had/has no idea what it means. I've purchased/worked with designs of many in our Industry, and that is rather common to be slipped into every page. And I can promise you, most programs have no idea what it means.

Why 02-16-2011 07:26 AM

Did you really expect to do all that well seowise with a whitelabel anyways? Its like trying to seo a vod theatre or sextoy store.... ain't gonna happen.

Roald 02-16-2011 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattseo (Post 17918591)
Your site is not a standard white label with VS

ah yeah thats correct, guess we're lucky huh :D

VladS 02-16-2011 07:46 AM

From my experience, VideoSecrets is a top notch company. Just send them an email and ask for modifications. I can see that as not being a fair move, but if it can be fixed, why ditch the company? They have a solid product.

TheDoc 02-16-2011 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Why (Post 17918879)
Did you really expect to do all that well seowise with a whitelabel anyways? Its like trying to seo a vod theatre or sextoy store.... ain't gonna happen.

Sounds like you need to use better whitelabels. A wl can be a unique site, niched up, title/text, ip, ect all clean - no reason why a site like that wouldn't rank as well as anything else if you're doing proper backlink building for it.

Machete_ 02-16-2011 07:58 AM

links pulled

marketsmart 02-16-2011 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Machete_ (Post 17918949)
links pulled

if you are not going to use those links, can i have them?








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cooldude7 02-16-2011 10:16 AM

whitelebel never gave me sale., so i m free.,

bad practice.
the only thing i want to say ,
u make affiliates happy and affiliates will make u happy.

u-Bob 02-16-2011 10:23 AM

let us know if they ever respond....

mattseo 02-16-2011 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17918877)
With most whitelabels you can request changes... just ask to have that removed.

And it probably wasn't put in on purpose, I'm sure some template designer added in and had/has no idea what it means. I've purchased/worked with designs of many in our Industry, and that is rather common to be slipped into every page. And I can promise you, most programs have no idea what it means.


LOL have you tried emailing VS :1orglaugh they never reply.. I had 0 answers guess they need to :pimp fire the affiliate manager , Im sure John, Chuck, Greg have no clue about the unanswered emails..

Quagmire 02-16-2011 11:56 AM

I wouldn't deal with them because they're a bunch of cocksuckers, period.

Any company that lets a studio that represents them post a model's personal information on Craigslist and does nothing about it when informed are shitheads not worth promoting.

chief99 02-16-2011 11:59 AM

I found this on my whitelable as well

<link rel="canonical" href="http://www.flirt4free.com/" />

mikem123 02-16-2011 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tjeezers (Post 17918525)
removing today 3 WL`s and sending them to competition, thank you


Tjeezers,

Can you contact me at your earliest convenience i would love to help you with what ever you need.

Best Regards,

2MuchMark 02-16-2011 01:29 PM

Wow this is really interesting...

Try doing a google search for

link rel="canonical"

I had never heard of this before...

Are you sure though that it bumps up ranking of the preferred domain by diminishing your own? I only just started reading about this topic but haven't found references to this yet. And if so wouldn't this hurt Google's ability to deliver high ranking search results based on a marketer's smart and savvy (but still google-propper) efforts?

2MuchMark 02-16-2011 01:33 PM


FlexxAeon 02-16-2011 01:36 PM

nevermind...nice video :)

CamChameleon 02-16-2011 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gsx-R (Post 17918922)
From my experience, VideoSecrets is a top notch company. Just send them an email and ask for modifications. I can see that as not being a fair move, but if it can be fixed, why ditch the company? They have a solid product.

After all your posts on other cam programs being shit and ripping people this is your answer. If someone fucks you go back for more :1orglaugh

2MuchMark 02-16-2011 01:43 PM

If you fast forward the video to 12:18, the commentator says that they prevent abuse by not allowing this tag to be used across different domains. However there is a pop-up on the video that says the rules for this tag have been changed to allow it to be used across domains.

Here is that link:

http://googlewebmastercentral.blogsp...ss-domain.html
Quote:

Handling legitimate cross-domain content duplication
Tuesday, December 15, 2009 at 2:47 PM
Webmaster level: Intermediate

We've recently discussed several ways of handling duplicate content on a single website; today we'll look at ways of handling similar duplication across different websites, across different domains. For some sites, there are legitimate reasons to duplicate content across different websites — for instance, to migrate to a new domain name using a web server that cannot create server-side redirects. To help with issues that arise on such sites, we're announcing our support of the cross-domain rel="canonical" link element.


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__jAFWOrP78...-googlebot.png


Ways of handling cross-domain content duplication:

Choose your preferred domain
When confronted with duplicate content, search engines will generally take one version and filter the others out. This can also happen when multiple domain names are involved, so while search engines are generally pretty good at choosing something reasonable, many webmasters prefer to make that decision themselves.
Reduce in-site duplication

Before starting on cross-site duplicate content questions, make sure to handle duplication within your site first.
Enable crawling and use 301 (permanent) redirects where possible
Where possible, the most important step is often to use appropriate 301 redirects. These redirects send visitors and search engine crawlers to your preferred domain and make it very clear which URL should be indexed. This is generally the preferred method as it gives clear guidance to everyone who accesses the content. Keep in mind that in order for search engine crawlers to discover these redirects, none of the URLs in the redirect chain can be disallowed via a robots.txt file. Don't forget to handle your www / non-www preference with appropriate redirects and in Webmaster Tools.

Use the cross-domain rel="canonical" link element
There are situations where it's not easily possible to set up redirects. This could be the case when you need to move your website from a server that does not feature server-side redirects. In a situation like this, you can use the rel="canonical" link element across domains to specify the exact URL of whichever domain is preferred for indexing. While the rel="canonical" link element is seen as a hint and not an absolute directive, we do try to follow it where possible.
Even though we're tiny and look at Video Secrets as masters of their domain, I'm pretty sure that this tag isn't used to bump up their ranking and diminish their affiliates ranking. I'm still reading and learning about this tag and still have found nothing to do with ranking. I could be wrong but chances are it's just used to manage duplicate content and nothing else.

DVTimes 02-16-2011 03:52 PM

bump 4 you


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