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Caligari 02-17-2011 10:36 AM

"dont fuck with them torrents man theres too much monitoring and theyre suing people now"
 
http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/1010777-stop-blaming-tubes.html

you'll find it in the above thread, a tube user commenting about using torrents :1orglaugh

its working, at least on the torrents. now just gotta find a way to apply this fear to using illegal tubes:thumbsup

Agent 488 02-17-2011 10:40 AM

torrent traffic has been on decline anyway. tubes remain steady. filehost traffic growing rapidly.

victory.

Caligari 02-17-2011 10:43 AM

torrents first come, first fall. illegal tubes next.

fail.

Agent 488 02-17-2011 10:45 AM

if you really think filesharing is going to disappear in our lifetimes you are insane.

insanity = not seeing what is real, reshaping reality to your desires and preconceptions.

Jakez 02-17-2011 10:46 AM

I think all it would take is a couple news stories about torrent users being sued to scare the majority into avoiding them. Same with the file hosting sites. BUT no one is going to run a news story about a porn tube site.

Caligari 02-17-2011 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakez (Post 17922049)
I think all it would take is a couple news stories about torrent users being sued to scare the majority into avoiding them. Same with the file hosting sites. BUT no one is going to run a news story about a porn tube site.

the illegal tubes will be trickier but where there's a will there's a way:thumbsup

and remember, MSM is covering porn now- witness cnbc's coverage of AVN awards etc.
i wouldn't be surprised to see a few big stories about illegal tubes in the near future.

i agree the file hosting b.s. is an easier target so i suspect that will fail sooner than later.


on edit- the main thing is getting people to think they can be sued for using illegal tubes and downloading pirated videos therein. many already know about the virus/malware dangers, but its going to take more than that to bring the downfall...

blackmonsters 02-17-2011 11:01 AM

The torrents will get it before porn tubes because the reality is that, excluding porn,
tubes already got it.

Youtube already went to the wire on copyright issues.

It's mainstream products that are getting the protection first.
It is also the mainstream that did the most to fight the problem.
Mainstream filed the bulk of claims against infringement.

Bottom line, porn sponsors have not done enough in the courts to
protect their rights.

DamianJ 02-17-2011 11:02 AM

cue: gideon, markham, robbie and 2 or 3 pages of the same old shit

Agent 488 02-17-2011 11:05 AM

if you think a couple news stories - which are already being reported btw - can roll back the larger, social and economic trends happening you are delusional. sorry.

the popular reaction to going after file sharers has been uniformly negative so news stories don't help the cause.

reality is something that doesn't go away when you stop believing in it.

Caligari 02-17-2011 11:14 AM

eh, this thread is not about news story its a real comment made by a tube user confirming the fact that more and more people are scared shitless to use torrents..

check yer readin comprendosensions....

Jakez 02-17-2011 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 17922093)
The torrents will get it before porn tubes because the reality is that, excluding porn,
tubes already got it.

Youtube already went to the wire on copyright issues.

It's mainstream products that are getting the protection first.
It is also the mainstream that did the most to fight the problem.
Mainstream filed the bulk of claims against infringement.

Bottom line, porn sponsors have not done enough in the courts to
protect their rights.

Yeah exactly. Torrents and file sharers have mainstream stuff to worry about. Porn tubes, who's going to do anything about that? :1orglaugh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17922104)
if you think a couple news stories - which are already being reported btw - can roll back the larger, social and economic trends happening you are delusional. sorry.

the popular reaction to going after file sharers has been uniformly negative so news stories don't help the cause.

reality is something that doesn't go away when you stop believing in it.

I don't think for a second that all the illegal sharing could be stopped or reversed, but seeing people gossip about not using them because *gasp* they're illegal, and *gasp* people are getting in trouble, is a nice surprise.

Agent 488 02-17-2011 11:23 AM

yeah a guy posted on a message board that one one guy on his website was wary about using torrents.

so the tide has turned.

like i said. delusional.

Rochard 02-17-2011 11:30 AM

What we all need to do is post horror stories about how people got a virus from a torrent that destroyed their computers.

Caligari 02-17-2011 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17922197)
What we all need to do is post horror stories about how people got a virus from a torrent that destroyed their computers.

i've written some of those :1orglaugh

not far from the truth either, there are many stories of tubes about viruses/malware infecting people's computers and at the least making major inconviences...

i find those stories and post them as comments or on blogs to spread the word.

Agent 488 02-17-2011 11:35 AM

there was a spate of news stories a little while back about security concerns about youporn and some other porn tubes.

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/youporn.com#

Caligari 02-17-2011 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakez (Post 17922164)
I don't think for a second that all the illegal sharing could be stopped or reversed, but seeing people gossip about not using them because *gasp* they're illegal, and *gasp* people are getting in trouble, is a nice surprise.

someone posted here a while back that they polled 1000 members of their various sites with the general question: "Why do you pay for porn?"

and the biggest response was "because i'm tired of getting virus/malware/email spam from tubes and torrents"

the comment from that user in your original post is hardly an isolated incident, millions of people are quite aware of whats going on with torrents now so they are staying away.

before the onslaught of legal action against torrent sites and downloaders everyone would say (you can find countless posts in the archives here) "they'll never get to torrents, torrents are here to stay blah blah blah"

so its understandable when people say "they'll never get to the illegal tubes etc" and its only because the right way, the effective way, has yet to be presented...

in summary, people who think adult industry lawyers don't have the clout or wherewithall to find the tube's "achilles heel" think again...

blackmonsters 02-17-2011 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 17922272)
in summary, people who think adult industry lawyers don't have the clout or wherewithall to find the tube's "achilles heel" think again...


I know the lawyers have the ability.

But here is the real deal :

Plenty of sponsors that got their content ripped wanted to wait and see
how it was going to turn out. They were trying to measure the type in traffic
from the ripped content. They in fact do get type in traffic that probably converts
at a high rate because why type in if you don't want to join when it's already free on the
tube you are currently looking at. The type in wants more and faster updates of
that specific material.

The second sponsor problem is that some of them are so fucked up that they
fear filing claims because the disclosure of their activities may back fire.

Filing a suit against the tube owner who used to be an affiliate that got shaved
and found out will probably back fire. :1orglaugh

L-Pink 02-17-2011 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17922046)
if you really think filesharing is going to disappear in our lifetimes you are insane.

insanity = not seeing what is real, reshaping reality to your desires and preconceptions.


Albert Einstein once said "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"

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Agent 488 02-17-2011 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 17922381)
Albert Einstein once said "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"

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Einstein never said that btw. attributed to him, but there is no source.

i was trying to quote phillip k dick: "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away."

Nicky 02-17-2011 12:34 PM

So one surfer posts this as a comment and now all of a sudden the tubes and torrents are doomed? lol

SykkBoy 02-17-2011 01:05 PM

file sharing has always been around and always will be...but, making it harder for the average joe surfer to get in on it is what needs to happen and slowly is happening.
it used to take a lot more technical knowledge, skills and connections, then it became easier and easier.

Caligari 02-17-2011 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 17922358)
I know the lawyers have the ability.

But here is the real deal :

Plenty of sponsors that got their content ripped wanted to wait and see
how it was going to turn out. They were trying to measure the type in traffic
from the ripped content. They in fact do get type in traffic that probably converts
at a high rate because why type in if you don't want to join when it's already free on the
tube you are currently looking at. The type in wants more and faster updates of
that specific material.

The second sponsor problem is that some of them are so fucked up that they
fear filing claims because the disclosure of their activities may back fire.

:1orglaugh

absolutely, and i'm sure some sponsors have found that letting the pirates do their thing is actually boosting their own sales :pimp

but to the majority...no. and when some of the biggies figure out an iron clad way to attack illegal tubes across the board there will be no mercy:)

lets put it this way, i'm sure that Larry Flynt and co. (for example) give a rats ass about having to disclose their activities;)

lawyers guns and money...

ottopottomouse 02-17-2011 01:22 PM

Torrent users being sued has been in the media for ages and hasn't stopped shit.

Caligari 02-17-2011 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SykkBoy (Post 17922513)
file sharing has always been around and always will be...but, making it harder for the average joe surfer to get in on it is what needs to happen and slowly is happening.
it used to take a lot more technical knowledge, skills and connections, then it became easier and easier.

absolutely, the idea that theft in this world will be stopped is ludicrous, but the idea that piracy can be badly maimed is a reality...now.

Caligari 02-17-2011 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 17922553)
Torrent users being sued has been in the media for ages and hasn't stopped shit.

well genius, its stopped those torrent users.

WarChild 02-17-2011 01:28 PM

That's funny, because not a single person I know has stopped using torrents. In fact, more and more are downloading tv shows and movies through torrents. I guess they didn't get the memo.

This thread is pretty funny.

Caligari 02-17-2011 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 17922566)
That's funny, because not a single person I know has stopped using torrents. In fact, more and more are downloading tv shows and movies through torrents. I guess they didn't get the memo.

maybe their waiting to get the memo from a law firm;)

WarChild 02-17-2011 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 17922570)
maybe their waiting to get the memo from a law firm;)

Not in Canada they're not. :error

Caligari 02-17-2011 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 17922573)
Not in Canada they're not. :error

don't worry, when canada gets a legal system they will follow suit;)

L-Pink 02-17-2011 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17922393)
Einstein never said that btw. attributed to him, but there is no source.

i was trying to quote phillip k dick: "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away."

Best of the three :thumbsup


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