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Archivist 02-24-2011 08:16 AM

Who do you think is behind Paxum attack?
 
Paxum has been under DoS attack for a few days now. Their website is down and users are unable to use the sytem.

Who do you think is attacking them? Competitor service? Trolls and haters? Someone else?

Nicky 02-24-2011 08:18 AM

It's Chris Mallick, he doesn't like Epass competition.

u-Bob 02-24-2011 08:20 AM

Chris Mallick...

fris 02-24-2011 08:21 AM

probably all the fraudsters that were denied the authentication process, since epassporte was easier to scam, paxum has taken a stand from the get go on authenticating users.

Wizzo 02-24-2011 08:25 AM

Paxum has been VERY pro-active in blocking scammers and carders, so I'm going to bet its them. :pimp

PornoStar69 02-24-2011 08:28 AM

illuminati folks - they badly want to bring the internet down.

SmokeyTheBear 02-24-2011 08:29 AM

i noticed a bit back alot of paxum accounts in lists of fraudulant affiliates carding programs.

When the same thing happened with epassporte , epass never would shut down the scammers, even when people had their accounts completely wiped out by scammers they wouldn't even suspend the fraud accounts.

I am thinking paxum may have started investigating/closing accounts that multiple sponsors flagged as carding/scammers, because they have a closer relationship to program owners than epass did, and prob realize closing down the scammers makes paxum a more viable payment solution. :)

in a nutshell , disgruntled carders with a bunch of ill gotten gains in an account , hoping paxum will give it back..

NOTE TO PAXUM --- no need to post details here but it would be nice to have a system where when one program flags a carding affiliate , paxum lets other sponsors whom pay the same affiliate know there may be a problem. kind of like a trust rating, you warn programs when they are paying users with a low trust rating

BlackCrayon 02-24-2011 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornoStar69 (Post 17937886)
illuminati folks - they badly want to bring the internet down.

can someone ban this fool?

seeandsee 02-24-2011 08:34 AM

any info from paxum?

Caligari 02-24-2011 08:36 AM

this...
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wizzo (Post 17937879)
Paxum has been VERY pro-active in blocking scammers and carders, so I'm going to bet its them. :pimp

paxum is more on the ball and more legit than epass ever was which unfortunately invites problems with douchebags like the jerkoffs screwing with them now.

i really hope they can trounce this attack quickly because i for one would like to continue using them.

~Ray 02-24-2011 08:40 AM

I could not sign up to paxum because I have an extension sticker on the back of my driver's license. When I tried to send a copy of both sides, they said they only take the front and denied my account.

Caligari 02-24-2011 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 17937893)
can someone ban this fool?

ditto that thought, some illuminati should rise from their graves to bitch slap the wanker for his sheer ignorance...

Django 02-24-2011 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornoStar69 (Post 17937886)
illuminati folks - they badly want to bring the internet down.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 17937893)
can someone ban this fool?

:1orglaugh

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willwank 02-24-2011 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 17937891)
NOTE TO PAXUM --- no need to post details here but it would be nice to have a system where when one program flags a carding affiliate , paxum lets other sponsors whom pay the same affiliate know there may be a problem. kind of like a trust rating, you warn programs when they are paying users with a low trust rating

+1 Would be good tool and a chance for Paxum to work closer with sponsors. Should look into that.

czarina 02-24-2011 08:59 AM

ouch, that bl*ws.

atom 02-24-2011 09:05 AM

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willwank 02-24-2011 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atom (Post 17937952)

Skol :upsidedow It's actually Skål, but you knew that.

Chosen 02-24-2011 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wizzo (Post 17937879)
Paxum has been VERY pro-active in blocking scammers and carders, so I'm going to bet its them. :pimp

:2 cents:

fris 02-24-2011 09:19 AM

thing i like about paxum is the atm limits, nothing like epass. this way i dont have to make 4-5 trips to get my payment.

also the fact the people working there are always around, trying to get a hold of someone at epass was like waiting for pigs to fly.

RuthB 02-24-2011 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 17937891)
NOTE TO PAXUM --- no need to post details here but it would be nice to have a system where when one program flags a carding affiliate , paxum lets other sponsors whom pay the same affiliate know there may be a problem. kind of like a trust rating, you warn programs when they are paying users with a low trust rating

Thanks for the suggestion Smokey! We are already working on a system similar to this actually. We discussed this (and other methods to combat fraud) with various sponsors during Internext in January and we're working on a very versatile system that would rate users and give anyone making a payment a score, much like a credit score, which would be very useful in determining whether some users are fraudulent or not.


Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Ray (Post 17937909)
I could not sign up to paxum because I have an extension sticker on the back of my driver's license. When I tried to send a copy of both sides, they said they only take the front and denied my account.

Hey Ray, please get in touch with me and I'll see if we have a workaround available.

ICQ #233-854-608
Emai [email protected]
:thumbsup

Wizzo 02-24-2011 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 17937891)

NOTE TO PAXUM --- no need to post details here but it would be nice to have a system where when one program flags a carding affiliate , paxum lets other sponsors whom pay the same affiliate know there may be a problem. kind of like a trust rating, you warn programs when they are paying users with a low trust rating

They are already working on it as mentioned by Ruth, but I think even if instead of simply using your email for payouts if they added the requirement of listing your country as well because alot of the Vietnam and Pakistan scammers put US, Canada, or UK addresses but then with Paxum they verify to their real country.

Barefootsies 02-24-2011 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wizzo (Post 17937879)
Paxum has been VERY pro-active in blocking scammers and carders, so I'm going to bet its them.

True dat.
:thumbsup

RuthB 02-24-2011 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wizzo (Post 17937999)
They are already working on it as mentioned by Ruth, but I think even if instead of simply using your email for payouts if they added the requirement of listing your country as well because alot of the Vietnam and Pakistan scammers put US, Canada, or UK addresses but then with Paxum they verify to their real country.

We no longer accept clients from Vietnam.

DWB 02-24-2011 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RuthB (Post 17938025)
We no longer accept clients from Vietnam.

Please tell me you guys didn't at one time allow accounts from Vietnam?

*face palm*

Growing pains....

Klen 02-24-2011 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RuthB (Post 17938025)
We no longer accept clients from Vietnam.

Funny boys from there,even if you find someone who is not scammer,there is a chance how he will do business with local scammers.

Puremeds-J 02-24-2011 10:13 AM

It's Anonymous!

Barefootsies 02-24-2011 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RuthB (Post 17938025)
We no longer accept clients from Vietnam.

You would be best served by blocking the credit card company's list.

Quote:

High-Risk Countries and Regions for Online Fraud
The countries/cities/regions on the following list are considered as high-risk for online fraud, though not every order from these areas will be fraudulent. And remember: safe transactions aren?t guaranteed just by shipping to areas outside this list.

Africa
Amsterdam in Holland
Belgium
Bulgaria
China
Eastern Europe
Egypt
Ghana
Indonesia
Israel
Lithuania
Malaysia
Russia
Malmö in Sweden
Nigeria
Pakistan
Palestine
Romania
Southwest Asia
Turkey
Ukraine
Vietnam
Yugoslavia

PR_Glen 02-24-2011 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornoStar69 (Post 17937886)
illuminati folks - they badly want to bring the internet down.

What you doing here? shouldn't you be hiding under your bed?

Jman 02-24-2011 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Ray (Post 17937909)
I could not sign up to paxum because I have an extension sticker on the back of my driver's license. When I tried to send a copy of both sides, they said they only take the front and denied my account.

Seems Ray as a motive :upsidedow

_Richard_ 02-24-2011 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wizzo (Post 17937879)
Paxum has been VERY pro-active in blocking scammers and carders, so I'm going to bet its them. :pimp

:2 cents:

8char

~Ray 02-24-2011 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jean-Francois (Post 17938144)
Seems Ray as a motive :upsidedow

It's ME!!!

I have video of me attacking Paxum

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:)

webgurl 02-24-2011 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 17938125)
You would be best served by blocking the credit card company's list.

Amsterdam in Holland?? :error:error:error High Risk? wtf

Agent 488 02-24-2011 11:27 AM

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Kelli58 02-24-2011 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 17938125)
You would be best served by blocking the credit card company's list.


I would have thought Philippines would have been on that list. I've been hearing a lot of chatter with problems there.

Dreamteam 02-24-2011 01:07 PM

- Amsterdam in Holland
- Belgium

Considered as high-risk for online fraud ??

This is a joke right? I dunno where you found that list, but that ain't correct.

Dreamteam 02-24-2011 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelli58 (Post 17938262)
I would have thought Philippines would have been on that list. I've been hearing a lot of chatter with problems there.


Seems he copied that list from this site:

http://www.onlinefraudguide.com/risk-countries-fraud/

That site is a joke and not reliable at all.

Jdoughs 02-24-2011 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RuthB (Post 17937993)
we're working on a very versatile system that would rate users and give anyone making a payment a score, much like a credit score, which would be very useful in determining whether some users are fraudulent or not.

Not sure that the Canadian Gov and Banks will approve of that in any way. Privacy is to protected here. Unless of course the lawyers have said differently but I doubt it, it's pretty cut and dry here, I can't see BoM being part of it or the gov allowing it in any way.

From a user point of view (a legitimate one), I don't think "Joe Blow" from "Sponsor Company A" should be told ANYTHING about my current payments, withdrawls etc, it's none of his business.

Machete_ 02-24-2011 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wizzo (Post 17937999)
They are already working on it as mentioned by Ruth, but I think even if instead of simply using your email for payouts if they added the requirement of listing your country as well because alot of the Vietnam and Pakistan scammers put US, Canada, or UK addresses but then with Paxum they verify to their real country.

I concur.

:thumbsup

baddog 02-24-2011 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archivist (Post 17937850)
Paxum has been under DoS attack for a few days now. Their website is down and users are unable to use the sytem.

Who do you think is attacking them? Competitor service? Trolls and haters? Someone else?

Based solely on your board name, I vote you.

RuthB 02-24-2011 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdoughs (Post 17938511)
Not sure that the Canadian Gov and Banks will approve of that in any way. Privacy is to protected here. Unless of course the lawyers have said differently but I doubt it, it's pretty cut and dry here, I can't see BoM being part of it or the gov allowing it in any way.

From a user point of view (a legitimate one), I don't think "Joe Blow" from "Sponsor Company A" should be told ANYTHING about my current payments, withdrawls etc, it's none of his business.

Whatever fraud prevention/alert system we put into place will be authorized/approved by our banking partners and legally sound before being implemented into our site.

We will not jeopardize any of our clients information in any way.
Your privacy and confidentiality are secure with Paxum.

We value ALL our customers, both business and personal.

mightyjoe 02-24-2011 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelli58 (Post 17938262)
I would have thought Philippines would have been on that list. I've been hearing a lot of chatter with problems there.

no way a chatter know how to card fraud. they only knew how to type, use the cam and posed on the cam. :2 cents:

baddog 02-24-2011 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mightyjoe (Post 17939001)
no way a chatter know how to card fraud. they only knew how to type, use the cam and posed on the cam. :2 cents:

wow . . . you might want to read his comment again. :2 cents:


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