Hey content producers you need to stop
 

you need to stop letting these fucking whores bring people to shoots with them....

A. it's very illegal to have "spectators" on a porn shoot

B. it's a fucking job... do these whores take their boyfriends /suitcase pimps into work with them flipping burgers?


This is seriously retarded... what the fuck is wrong with you to let them bring "escorts" on to a porn shoot with them.....


Porn should be shot on a closed set... I have always done so ...... maybe the sooner you fuckers start treating it like a real business the sooner it gets more accepted.....

A) it will never be accepted

B) Danza has spoken

C) All of the above

"Choose wisely Daniel-sahn..."

Yours Truly,

Mr. Miyagi's second cousin twice removed

rough morning uh?

Amen. :thumbsup

No "escorts" on shoots, not exceptions.

A) AMP chimed in, so it's legit

B) See (A)

C) A tuna fish sandwich sounds good right about now

little bit....

just fucking e-argued with this fucking whore over bringing "an escort/assistant" on a set blah blah......


got me thinking she only thinks it's OK cause other producers let her do it.. WTF is wrong with these guys......

I mean this is a job right?

were all arguing more and more wanting it to be accepted .. legal on all aspects .. etc etc right?

then why are producers still allowing this behavior?


ive said it before I'll say it again... union the shit out of it..

a. If a guy wants to watch his lady get railed... more power to him... there's a chair in the corner, sit and shut the fuck up or go.

b. I could go for a tuna sangmich also.

it is opening the door for craziness

pimps out hoes down

if he wants to watch his chick get nailed he can ask for a copy of the dvd like everyone else has to .... or he can start his own production company and hire doods to come fuck his wife....


it's very simple.....

my assistant once brought his girlfriend to set (apparently she didnt trust him).
she tried to screw everybody on the set, she was pretty hot too but too much bro respect.

and yeah nobody on set, i always tell them to go watch a movie and give them directions to the nearest theater.
HOWEVER, a couple models have told me some producer tell them lies and agree to these terms and when they show up start making reasons why they have changed their minds etc. that aint cool either..

Glad to see i'm not the only one who hates having others present when shooting. it's so annoying. Wait outside for fuck sake!

it's very simple

grow balls and tell the whore prior to her even coming...

this is a closed set leave your suitcase pimp at home or don;t show up

They never perform the same in front of their "escort" as when he's not there...in other words, they're tame in front of their dude. You never get a good scene with their escort present.

exactly......

Agreed.
The only exception is a cuckold shoot...
Husbands that eat creampies are accepted on set.

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agreed... or robbie

he's allowed on any of my sets.... cause he would not just stand there he'd either join in or take the camera out of my hands to free up slapping hands

Yeah, Robbie is the exception to many rules :pimp

I disagree.

The real reasons you take issue with it:

1. Performance anxiety - you don't want to have to think that they may be watching you and thinking that your dicks appear much smaller in real life and without the aid of wide angle lens distortion working in your favor.

2. Control - you don't want the models having anyone to give them support when you are asking them to do shit that they feel uncomfortable about.

3. Subterfuge - you want to be able to things without having to worry about witnesses, second opinions, critiques, etc.

I have shot enough and worked for enough people - including Max Hardcore - who inspired Danza, Steve Sweet, etc., to know what the dealio is.

If a model is more comfortable or has a partner that gets off on watching then more power to them. If the so-called "spectator" starts interfering with production then kick them both off set. Trust me, I have had my share of problems with boyfriends too... ask Mike South about the time in Vegas when one ran out of the room with my camera. But there is nothing illegal about having a friend, spouse, bodyguard whatever on set, nor is it unprofessional until that person(s) behaves unprofessionally.

You may be shooting porn, and you are right that it should be done with professionalism, but it should also have an element of courtesy and respect for the models so that they feel inspired to do a good "job".

:2 cents:

We still laugh about this guy saying "Thank you Dirty D" while he was eating the fresh creampie I gave her... lol

1 I just just don't have performance anxeity I can shoot in a room full of people as I proved in 2002 in florida at that hotel when I banged 2 girls in front of like 500 people

2. 100% I am the director and if some suitcase pimp is going to interfere with what I could have talked her into then I don't want him there everyone knows girls will do more alone than they will with a friend who they have to go see again and talk to again... I don't want those girls.. I want the girls that are able to open up and get dirty on camera.. sometimes that takes some talking into.... and I don't need some fucking idiot there......
reminds me of the idoit that was at an interview years ago.. when I told them what I was going to do to her he lost his mind.. so I told him if he were to be a real man and take care of his girl she would not have to suck cock for money....


3. is just silly that go's with number 2 and personally I could care less about critiques....

while it may not be illegal where you are in LA.. but here in Vegas we have municipal codes that forbid it..... I don't write em I just follow em.....

again I go back to my McDonalds analogy this is a fucking job.... I'm not there to get laid im there to make a disgusting product that filth surfers seem to love since 2001

if I were just looking to get laid I would just hire hookers like I do anyways on days im not filming.....

if a suitcase pimp wants to meet my crew on an interview I have no problem with that what so ever... but on set itself I run a closed set... always will... Ive never had a girl that did not want to shoot again after we filmed once.. no matter how hard I was on her she has a good time with us.....

I'm just to old now a days to deal with the biullshit

oh one more thing...

if the fucking paycheck isint enough inspiration to do a good job then I dunno what is..... again if I go get a job right now at in and out burger you think I can tell them

oh and I need Far-L here with me every day he makes me flip burgers better than ever?

you think in and out would be like yea sure bring him we will get him a chair by the grill so he can watch you flip em

The few times this has been requested from me, the talent is given a long list of references that they can verify my professionalism with. If they insist on having an escort they really have no interest in doing their job or taking it as serious as I need them too. So I have no interest in booking them.

If had no references or a bad reputation in regards to how I treat models, I could see it as a reasonable request. But not the case for me.

I don't allow escorts on set. The models never perform well with someone watching them and they are always looking over to the person for approval or to make sure that they aren't bored or annoyed. Most of the girls know of my rep and how I run my sets anyway in advance. Hopefully they have a good time and come back for second, third or more shoots after the first time. Rarely does any model even ask for someone to hang around anymore. If anything they get droppped off by agent, friend, suitcase pimp or whoever and we call to get them picked up when done hours later.

agreed...

funny part is Ive never had a girl not want to come back and shoot again with me.....

im sure Kayla on here can speak for how I am on set....


Im very honest from the first email and first phone conversation.....


these fucking girls... a "body guard" wtf... when's the last time a chick was killed on a porn set?

anyone?

In PA, about a year ago? There was a LIFETIME docu-drama about it recently and that is about their turnaround on scandalous crap to capitalize on.

lol, I flip a mean burger and I can help you do the same...

I know what you are saying and I've heard you are very professional, up front, etc, so I am not calling you out directly but you must know what I am talking about too..

:winkwink: :thumbsup

I have absolutely no problem with them having someone come with them to drop them off and make sure they are safe... I've even let escort stay in another room but they never can watch. Performance drops for sure.

Never ever allowed an escort on the set or in the building when I'm shooting. similar goes for castings, unless it's a female escort. Reasons are simple.

A) It's work, she doesn't take him/her to work with him/her.

B) The only reasons a model needs an escort is a lack of trust. She doesn't trust me, or the escort doesn't trust her. In both cases they can both go home. Any guy who want sto watch his GF do porn is a perv and can fuck off. Any girl who wants her boyfriend to watch her do porn can do it on her money. Not mine, I'm not a show.

As for money, if either don't trust me to pay her, I'm not shooting.

C) An escort on the premises effects the performance. I'm not betting my money the effect will be to the better. Let them bet with their money.

My views are formed on the basis that I had to sell after the shoot. If it wasn't good enough I lost money. And from listening to professionals.

The easiest way to get the BF out of the building is to tell them I have other shoots going on and other girls running around naked and performing. If he still insists on being there, his GF will kill him or she's a whimp and again they can go home.

im with you... maybe the old school like us of take what ever job you have seriously is gone and out the window.... at 14 I was a bus boy for some "guys" and god damnit I was the best fucking bus boy there was.. your water glass was never below half full.. your bread was always stocked and dishes were cleared and tables were crumbed....

I never liked it at all.. fucking hated it.. with a passion... even today I'd rather go last on a 1000 man gangbang creampie than work in food service.... not that I love cum I just hated foodservice.... but you know what.. the guy that owned it was from Kansas City and a very itlllian last name if you see where im coming from as to who and what he was... he paid me very well.. I was walking with over 100 a night at 14-15 if I was smart then ha.. nope I pissed it away into drugs and partying .... but I feel it made me who I am today.....

moral is I was the best busser in town.. even now I challenge people I'd be the best fucking busser today.. even server.... if thats what I chose.....

look im not out hunting down girls applying for seceretary jobs for merral lynch .. these girls call me, email me.. we are the employer .. we are the ones paying... should we not make the rules? I know not every girl brings suitcase pimps.. it is only a select few.. and 9 times out of 10 they are not the hottest but if we as producers even if it's just 2-3-4 producers letting them they start to think it's ok then it just gets worse...

we all have to be on the same page here somehow ......

im sure everyone of us here would love to bring a friend to work day be everyday shit the time would fly by.....

March 1st 2011 - the day Paul and Danza agree on a subject :)

Same rule on my set... no exceptions.

I made an exception to that rule once.....never again.

Yes, these girls are now starting to run the show. They demand extreme high pay and they demand that they bring an escort.

I just received and email from a girl who is demanding 3000 for a simple solo shoot.
Below is her email:

***How are you doing i just got your email sorry but i have been real busy. I do nude shoots and my however i do charge $ 3000 a shoot. If you want to see my work and my ratings check out twistys.com or digitaldesires.com. Or you can check out the shoots i have done for playboy magazine and my newest shoot coming out in may 2011 hustler cover and centerfold. Please let me know what you think. thanks***

What the fuck? Twisty and Digitaldesire paying models $3k per shoot now for solo?
If so no wonder it is extremely hard to get models now.

1. No escorts
2. Stop paying these whores outrageous rates!
3. Ban Charlie Sheen from paying these whores 30k as well!


seriously these girls are out of their minds now days.

twistys better not be paying 3000 per scene

I always say we need to set rates not the whores....

I think one of the reasons that this comes up often is that the girls are approaced by the " Middle Men" Those guys want to grab some photos of her in clothes lingerie and naked. Which is fine. then the guy tells her that he needs to " Try her out " an make sure she can take the hardcore scenes and what not. But he does not plan to pay for this. if she wants to work this is how it goes.

I listened to a guy at the Miami show many years ago talking about how he does this and that to fuck the girls. Never pays and then reps them to legit photogs. Then the photo guys wonder why they want to bring a " Friend "

citation?

And when they stay in the other room, they steal shit. They also have a habit of talking to myself or my assistants and although this is a friendly thing, it adds time to my shoots because of the distractions.

I've had everything from cameras to coffee grinders stolen and the theft went WAY down when I stopped allowing "escorts."

I allow models/performers to bring someone with them to any of my projects if it makes them feel more comfortable.

I do this in part because I have heard too many stories from models about creepy photographers that only want to get girls alone to see how much they (the photographer) can get away with groping the model, asking them to go beyond their limits, or even propositioning them for sex.

My sets generally have a small crew of people consisting of a Make-Up Artist, 1-2 Production Assistants, a Still Photographer (doubles on video), and Videographer (moi). For hardcore shoots, I generally add another video shooter.

If you look at most mainstream productions, and the better adult productions, they all have a good sized crew. Some even have audiences.

Granted, I do not shoot extreme content (no anal, etc), and I never intend to shoot anything outside what we have already discussed during the storyboard/scenario review.

Most often lately, girls will bring another girl to the shoot. Sometimes I end up with a new model (lol). When they bring a guy, it's generally a friend, and not significant other. Even when it has been a BF or hubby, I have never had a major problem. I've even had a few BFs become PA's.

When there are girl escorts, quite often they help out with wardrobe/make-up. I sometimes put the guys to work manning a camera on a tripod.

I've been shooting professionally for over ten years, and I figured out how to deal with model escorts early on. First, you try to get a quick sense about the relationship and the personalities. Either put them at ease (I provide food and non-alcoholic beverages), or take charge and direct - where they will be sitting (out of the line of the sight of the model), when they can speak, etc.

Frequently, as we are doing the paperwork, either the model or escort will ask where the escort can wait, since often they do not wish to watch, but merely came by because the person needed a ride, or to ensure the environment seemed safe.

As for hardcore, most of the girls whom I hire are already in the industry, and they no longer have escort issues. Those that aren't generally work with their BF/hubby or are fine working with someone that is tested, once they are clear on exactly what we will be shooting.

The simple fact is, this is not flipping burgers. When a BF/hubby/father drops their girl off at Mickey D's for a shit, they are not expecting that she will be throat-gagged/spit-on/sodomized, etc. Not all jobs are the same.

Unfortunately, there are some in this industry that have misogynistic attitudes, and their business is built around degrading girls. It is obvious why they would want unescorted girls.

What content producers need to do is quit lying to, trying to trick, and stop abusing girls, and maybe more girls will want to be in this industry.

:2 cents:

ADG

It hasn't happened in a while but sometimes girls would bring their loser boyfriends in with them to interviews or preliminary meetings. Awkward.

Once this idiot tried to do all the talking for the girl because he made all the decisions. He "knew" what was "best for her". He knew "all about porn" and "mob connections". He "knew" she "deserved $10,000" just for walking in the door. HE demanded cash, this, that, what a joke.

Another asshole, some big 6'5" steroid abuser kept trying to push his 5'1" girlfriend into doing it, while not letting her talk or ask her own questions. I felt so bad for her. We said a few nice things just to get them out the door but then never called her back.

Girls: Want to make porn? Do all your own research, and ask all your own questions. If you can't decide for yourself then by all means ask your BF's but don't take them with you to interviews, business meetings or porn shoots, especially if they are the over protective jealous type. Even a lawyer is better than bringing a boyfriend.

as you said at the bottom there not comming to flip burgers.. they are coming for a good porn scene.. they know exactly whats going to take place.. I have a 5 min video they watch... plus story board ... they know and agree to everything on a pre shoot interview nothing is of surprise ...

in fact im very busy I tell the girls everything over the phone so I can weed em out....

the bringing an escort to work again I refer to flipping burgers...

they know what they are being dropped off to do yes?

you tell your girls as I tell mine... im not understanding the thing here.. so so far we know you and robert allow this mess to take place LOL.. anyone else want to come clean so I know where to send the headache wanting an escort girls to...

bottom line is they agree to getting throat fucked over the phone.. in person and on camera interview before shoot takes place.. now some idiot is there and sees and is like woah thats to rough...

now she's influenced by him.. so what was not against her limits before now become against her limits cause she does not want her friend to think less etc etc.. so many variables...

if photog's cross lines against their will then call the cops.. but requesting an escort is very unprofessional....

oh and what about the girls who build business around degrading guys and the guys that pay them to be abused? no difference really.. someone has to do it.. just like someone has to shoot smoking hott asians that he won't share with danza :) it's a dirty job but someone has to do it

Mark Arnold aka Ed Powers once told me that he intentionally paid the girls higher rates realizing full well that it would completely jade her from working with others either completely, or at least long enough for him to enjoy a semi exclusive release with her... and during the heydey of his success that made him far more than what it cost him.

I heard that from owner of netvideogirls he was very successful as well... maybe im doing this all wrong

She's smoking crack.

I agree Danza! :2 cents: :thumbsup

I agree with you, but is it really illegal?

Whine about how unprofessional it is to have others on set. Call the girls whores constantly. Never change Danza.

others on set? im sitting here talking about how it's a closed set.. if someone is there they are working.. and im not talking a shit job like towel guy i mean photographer or videographer and myself and talent thats it....

very small production.. if im shooting bigger shit then im shooting bigger shit with bigger crew..

as for the whore calling.. umm ok ....... so what... what you want me to call her princess after she sucks off 27 dicks? in a row?..... it is what it is... they call me dirty or pervert all day do I cry about it? do I expect them to call me sir? not off camera no

if you think I call girls up "hey whore got work for you get over here" and they show up and it;s a party at my house you crazy...

they know they aree going to be verbally abused on camera... they know they are going to be abused with my cock on camera... julie knight once brought an escort with her he was so cool we used him in the scene... but thats one shoot out of 100's that have turned out bad cause of the "escort" and god damnit who dubbed it escort.. it's a fucking suitcase pimp... no more no less......

i think both ADG and Far-L have valid points, and i know that every producer have a shoot go bad in one way or another so for danza to say every girl he ever shot have wanted to come back to shoot again, we know it smells a little but ok generally speaking probably.
pretty sure Far-L probably also sent a couple boyfriends away when he was banging girls down in san diego.