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3 - 5 grand for a blog... oh my
How much does a blog generally cost to have made in adult? like $300? 500 tops? using word press...
I came across this place that starts at 3,000-5,000 for blogs :warning http://www.theblogstudio.com/rfp/ I mean I always knew the money was different in mainstream but goddamn are people actually paying places like this? and if so, why do designers even waste their time trying to make $ in adult when their clearly isn't much or any to be made. You would spend an entire year in Adult and not sell a single one at those prices. |
I think the difference is webmasters have a certain skill set - ie can create / maintain / develop their own site.
The design part of a site isn't that most labour intensive part of creating a website. |
I'd pass as well
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It's all about your clientele. There are people who will pay that for a nice clean professional looking design that is done properly with valid efficient coding. To work with professionally trained designers who will work with you in a professional manner. Fact of the matter is that most adult designers don't go work in mainstream for the big bucks is that they aren't that good...
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What I want to know is why RyuLion is getting in between them... :1orglaugh |
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About the price of blogs, those blogs aint shit, they look quite good to me - http://www.theblogstudio.com/portfolio Also in porn you have people competing on price (making it lower) whereas in mainstream they compete on price and service making the price go up |
The more people want to use your time, the more money you should charge for it. By putting up those prices, he does not want to waste time.
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that's insane price for a blog...
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Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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its true!!!
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difference is in mainstream many people don't even know what a blog is, let alone wordpress or how to use it... so before you even start designing, you have to explain to them what the deal is, then after the design is done, how to use worpdress etc...
it sounds like there is ton of $$ to be made, there is, but it's certainly not everyone... |
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I'v deploied some wordpress blogs in mainstream. I ask them 350euros with a nice template that I bought.
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they know what wordpress is of course. |
I have charged on more than one occasion, for more than $5k, sites built using Wordpress.
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Very expensive!!
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Their portfolio looks good.
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You charge what the market will bear. Anyone familiar with Wordpress and Blogs in general would never, ever pay that price. Get some online newb, or lazy entrepeneur, or clueless bastard who doesn't know any better, and it's cha-ching for the designer.
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$1500 for a pro $5000 for the best and $500 for a amateur design.
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These people paying these prices for maintaining their blogs such newbs don't they know WP is free and anything custom to their site can be done for a $50 :1orglaugh :upsidedow if the work takes a month to complete for instance - 5k is a decent cost on a lower end. |
The truth is, its the adult industry clients that have unrealistic price & service expectations...
How many times have we seen this thread: Designers - I need a quick job, super easy "I need 450 unique banners in 22 different sizes and I need them sometime in the next 15 minutes...BTW I'm paying .25 cents a banner" immediately followed by 15 "designers" with a hit me up ...I can do it for .24 cents a banner! |
hit me up, I'll do it for .23c
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U look at the quality of the design at the same time
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That's not an outrageous price. They have a team of 5 people and they get shit done, on time. Not everyone can afford it, and they know it. Their designs are worth the price.
No sense in trying to get bottom feeder customers that'll waste their time at $250/blog. 5 people, with an average salary of $65,000/year + office rent = minimum $350,000/year income is required to break even. They are after established companies as their clientele, not adult webmasters with dayjobs. |
lol at this pricing
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i'm sorry.... 5k for a theme? or are you getting more than a theme for that price?
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WP its free, we can get some decent templates for 80USD...
Why charge 3K? Sure I wanna earn some cash but I dont wanna be seen as a thief. :S Any newbie can say to the guys to who have I deployed the WP "that its free and I can get u a template for 100USD, I just wanna 50 bucks to drink some beers" |
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you people are out of touch, in the mainstream world good designers shrug at 3k-5k projects as that's their MINIMUMS.
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Since I am clueless about Jersey Store stuff, I thought it was RyuLion, and it was probably some chick at a show getting clocked. |
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not a template 1000's of people can buy. |
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Bwah, I'd say $5K is ridiculously expensive, but then again, perception is value. I've seen "high-end" design firms take on a 9K project, and six weeks later produced something you'd expect an $8/hour Indian guy to do in a week. Then I've seen freelancer designers produce amazing designs for $1500 - $2000K.
With my previous company, our software sold for $1700/license, which I thought was a fair deal. New owner takes over, jacks the price up to $25,000, and begins making sales that week. Fuck! Obviously I was doing something wrong. I've seen companies selling an Access database, and some MS Word templates for $30,000 before, and they would make sales since it was an old and established company, even though their technology was 15 years out of date. Seen that type of thing time and time again. Perception is value. There's a couple good reasons to charge extortionate rates. It weeds out lots of idiot clients who are generally not worth it, because unless you were born into it, there's a reason you have that kind of money to spend. That, and people will trust you more, and question you less, because if you're charging that kind of money, obviously you must know what you're doing, right? |
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But since that small campanies dont care much about that... 250 for 3000 is a lot, and find other page using the same template is fcking hard, find two almost impossible. I'm say to my clients that the might found one or other page equal, just to prevent but they dont care. A webdesigner here in Portugal gets 1000/1300USD per month. |
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If you extend WP beyond a blog (and at this point using WP as a blog is like hunting ants with a bazooka), you'll probably need a lot, or at least a decent amount of custom coding, extending capabilities, writing plugins and so on. Add to that situation the fact that many service providers in adult are whoring themselves and working for peanuts, many of them making 1k or less PER MONTH. Of course, the quality is affected, but some people doesn't give a damn and they'll take crap as long as it is cheap crap, so it's all a vicious circle. Allow me some digression here: Many people thinks the motto "content is king" always applies, when the fact is most people can't realize their content isn't THAT good. Let alone reality seems to be stubborn and in media business and entertainment DELIVERY is king (formats, gadgets, you name it). As a matter of fact, companies that are into DELIVERY INDUSTRY are the ones funding the content. Getting back to the subject, they have the incredible amount of 5 (five) projects done. So it doesn't look like people is lining out their door either, and who knows how much they REALLY charged. Any business includes a space for negotiation, so if someone tells them "OK, I want you to design my site but I can pay only $1500" I'm sure they will do it. They may cut in coding, design hours, whatever, but in the services area nothing is set in stone. Finally, the "wordpress is free" excuse is simply nonsensical. So is Notepad, thus all coding should be free, right? Or a guy who paid his hammer with his first work should build a house for free, after all the hammer is already paid. Or a guy composing a song, or the one writing a book. It's like work hours, creativity, intellectual work, branding, customization, etc etc etc ETC have absolutely no value. And that's one of many things that make this industry go to shit: save a penny here, always provide crap, scam your customers and steal whatever can be stolen. 0 creativity, 0 innovation, 0 work. Sounds familiar? :2 cents: PS: I've seen companies charging over 50K for Wordpress themes and I'm pretty sure any big advertisement firm will charge 6 figures or even 7 figures easily |
Some of the best blogs I read are done on free or cheap themes. I don't believe you need all the glitz if you have something worth reading.
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