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$5 submissions 03-20-2011 10:17 PM

Do you think Groupon is worth $25 BILLION?
 
Apparently some investmant bankers think so :1orglaugh:winkwink: Not exactly a proprietary model...

Bloomberg reports:

Quote:

Groupon Inc. has held talks with banks about an initial public offering that would value the online-coupon company at as much as $25 billion, according to two people with knowledge of the discussions.

The two-year-old startup?s IPO may happen this year and is unlikely to assign Groupon a valuation of less than $15 billion, according to the people, Bloomberg Businessweek reports in its March 21 edition. They asked not to be identified because the talks were private.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-0...5-billion.html

Adam_M 03-20-2011 10:36 PM

That's just crazy money!

marcop 03-20-2011 11:11 PM

We already had a dotcom boom back in the late 90's/early aughts... and that didn't turn out too well in the long run.

emjay 03-21-2011 12:51 AM

When I first heard about the group buying model, I thought it was a great idea and still do.

But I just don't get the numbers. First they turn down google's $6bn and now this. Crazy. imho.

drx 03-21-2011 12:59 AM

damn thats alot of papers

SleazyDream 03-21-2011 01:04 AM

makes you wonder what the coupon book companies were worth....

$5 submissions 03-21-2011 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marcop (Post 17993170)
We already had a dotcom boom back in the late 90's/early aughts... and that didn't turn out too well in the long run.

What are the signs that this time around it will go bust? Are the same factors in play now?

bronco67 03-21-2011 02:27 PM

Isn't this the same type of shit that burst the bubble a few years back...overvalue-ing the living shit out of internet companies?

cooldude7 03-21-2011 02:31 PM

25 bn no way.

kristin 03-21-2011 02:57 PM

I'm a Groupon'er, heavily.

I don't think it's worth $25 billion though. I have a theory that sites like Groupon are going to hinder brand loyalty and mess with pricing structures and businesses and consumers haven't yet seen this. Give it a little bit longer and when businesses aren't retaining because the person is jumping onto the next pedicure coupon place - they will start to notice that the 30-50% cut they gave Groupon might not have been worth it.

alexchechs 03-21-2011 02:58 PM

I was part of that 90s bubble bust in the dot com sector and this sounds exactly like it. Another company that is being over valued by so called "analysts".

Yes its a great site and concept that works very well but it is being way too over-valued right now.

djroof 03-21-2011 02:58 PM

is a new trent!

icymelon 03-21-2011 03:47 PM

The affiliate program only tracks sales for 30 days that seems like a good business model if it works for them

$5 submissions 03-21-2011 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kristin (Post 17994816)
I'm a Groupon'er, heavily.

I don't think it's worth $25 billion though. I have a theory that sites like Groupon are going to hinder brand loyalty and mess with pricing structures and businesses and consumers haven't yet seen this. Give it a little bit longer and when businesses aren't retaining because the person is jumping onto the next pedicure coupon place - they will start to notice that the 30-50% cut they gave Groupon might not have been worth it.

Your theory might be right. Groupon is a PARASITIC brand. People's loyalty grows to IT not the actual brand they are consuming for a particular deal.

mafia_man 03-21-2011 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 17994749)
Isn't this the same type of shit that burst the bubble a few years back...overvalue-ing the living shit out of internet companies?

Yahoo had similar valuations, that is until the bubble burst.

slapass 03-21-2011 06:36 PM

They are super cash flow positive. Not sure I agree with the value but this is different then before.

Horny Dude 03-21-2011 07:32 PM

I don't think any site is worth $25 billion. I also see more and more Groupon clones, so I think they're going to run out of steam.

Barry-xlovecam 03-21-2011 08:10 PM

Is Google really worth $185.36 Billion?

GOOG

Is Groupon worth $25 Billion?

To whom?

marcop 03-21-2011 08:19 PM

I have friends who work in restaurants that take Groupons and they HATE the people who come in for the Groupon specials. These are people who don't normally eat out and don't know how to behave when they do. Groupon is a site for bottom feeders--yes, it scares up a few dollars from people who wouldn't normally spend those dollars, but those folks aren't going to be repeat customers. Perhaps once the marketplace figures that out, Groupon will go the way of BlockBuster.

LRS 03-21-2011 08:26 PM

now right now but in the future it might..

AJHall 03-22-2011 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 17995138)
Your theory might be right. Groupon is a PARASITIC brand. People's loyalty grows to IT not the actual brand they are consuming for a particular deal.

Maybe but it probably has little effect on businesses on a whole, especially on already established brands. If someone finds something new via Groupon and they like it there's a good chance they'll become a repeat customer and refer others via word of mouth. A lot of buying patterns support the concept that people are creatures of habit. I don't think Groupon will change human behavior on a large scale, it's merely a new advertising medium that happens to be a new viral fad.

:2 cents:

HomerSimpson 03-22-2011 02:09 AM

another bubble?

acctman 03-22-2011 02:15 AM

thats like saying groupoun is worth half of what facebook is worth.. thats bullshit, maybe 100mil if that

kichi 03-22-2011 05:08 PM

It cracks me up when people say "is it worth 25 billion?" when you have no clue how much money the company makes. Amazon trades at 63 times earnings. So if this coupon bullshit makes 400 million a year thats 25 billion, isnt it?

$5 submissions 03-22-2011 05:12 PM

It's got revenues. That's saying a lot more than MOST of the companies that went public in the Dot Com Bubble V.1.

bDok 03-22-2011 05:16 PM

No way. I was talking about this the other day. Why that guy doesn't take the money and run is far beyond me it's not even funny. You are first to market and you hold a decent market share. However, that pie is going to get chopped up real quick.


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