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Signups via proxy server - is there ever a good reason?
Or is it always fraud?
I have been seeing a lot of this lately via unrelated affiliates and I am banning people and sending them nasty letters, but I am wondering if there is anyone willing to play devil's advocate and give me one good reason why more than half of an affiliate's joins have to come from known proxy servers. Here are some of the IP addresses I am seeing: 199.48.147.39 173.212.238.60 173.212.238.60 65.172.48.18 65.60.22.150 67.19.20.162 205.138.115.85 |
why would anyone put his cc info into proxy server? fraud sure :2 cents:
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I have occasionally used proxies myself as I live abroad and find non US residents get discriminated pretty badly due to high fraud levels coming from certain countries.
So I use proxies to stream amazon videos, to order electronics from egghead, sometimes to sign up for affiliate programs, and also to check what contextual ads are showing in certain regions. But I have always thought not too many people do this. |
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i notice one of those ip's listed directly as an ip to watch hulu from outside us
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was his name jay noelly or ****noelly@yahoo
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proxies are handy if you live in a Muslim country :)
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Could be in a hospital or a business with a filter.
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50% proxies is pretty high but you probably shouldn't get too suspicious if it is under 20%. There are legitimate reasons to use a proxy such as to get around a filter or protect your privacy better from a local internet provider.
edit: There is also some spyware which filters traffic through proxies. |
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Of course he swears he is clean as a whistle and the most honest and hardest working man ever to walk the face of the earth. The other claims he was bamboozled by his partner and knows nothing of proxies. I kinda half believe him since he set up a separate campaign for the partner's joins and all the proxies are on that campaign, but that doesn't change the action that needs to be taken or who's responsibility it is. |
proxy servers are best databases of illegal activities, all have logs, and most of them, maybe all in the us, are setup by authorities. stay away of them, if you must use proxy, buy server where you need and setup your own ... :2 cents:
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You are right that many affiliates are trying to use proxies & cc to do fake joins. I know our programmer uses a proxy regularly to test our stuff as he is in eastern Europe & needs a US IP address for testing. |
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I had told this affiliate just this week that I appreciated his traffic as I had been dealing with a rash of carders and was weeding them out. He immediately requested early payout citing a family emergency so I became suspicious. |
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If an affiliate has more then one, it fraud. There's 100s if not 1000s of these guys doing it these days. Also, I'm willing to bet his referral urls are likely all from 1 "site" because they use hitbot to drive "traffic" and many times you can't even find a link on their page. Also, if you have one, you likely have more in your program. Be sure to send their names to Paxum, because they will block their accounts as well. :pimp
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i dont get it., why would someone do that ? are they that stupid ?
that they were hoping to get paid after 15 days with fake logins and nobody will notice ?., c'mon program owners are smart. |
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ISPs often use transparent proxies as well....
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Living outside the US, I use proxies daily. I have a few different ones I cycle through. There are many legitimate reasons for using a pay-VPN and/or proxy service. |
Too much credit card fraud with VPN or Proxy servers. . |
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