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DVTimes 04-02-2011 04:31 PM

Is this possible to do: a affiliate system based on hits not sales
 
while affiliate systems are set up for webmasters, why do we not have affiliate syatems set up for non webmasters.

What I mean is surfers or real people.

Rather than pay per sale, how about a system where they can send traffic via say twitter posts and give them credit per hit. say 1000 hits = $1. You do not need to ev en pay them, but offer say website access to your site. So say if they hit $40 worth of points they get a months access, or a free gift.

Such a system would work well for say people who have sites promoting other sites. Such as tgp's. Probably better traffic than just buying recycled traffic.

Mabe this is somthing traffic brokers should be looking at.

pristine 04-02-2011 04:34 PM

are you as dumb in person as you seem on here?

~Ray 04-02-2011 04:41 PM

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Sausage 04-02-2011 04:51 PM

Omg ... seriously ....

kane 04-02-2011 04:53 PM

There is a reason very few pay per click programs exist today. Fraud runs rampant.

inabon 04-02-2011 04:55 PM

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HomerSimpson 04-02-2011 05:00 PM

yes and it's called traffic broker..
no other way...

ottopottomouse 04-02-2011 05:04 PM

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react 04-02-2011 05:10 PM

Times have changed, maybe network fraud can overcome affiliate fraud.

Jakez 04-02-2011 05:25 PM

Reminds me of the sites that ask you to send the page to 5 people to unlock another pic.

If you can monitor and handle fraudulent clicks I don't see why it's such a bad idea..

iSpyCams 04-02-2011 05:34 PM

It's called google adsense.

Sausage 04-02-2011 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakez (Post 18027194)
If you can monitor and handle fraudulent clicks I don't see why it's such a bad idea..

Its a stupid idea because it's no longer 1998.

But all power to him, if he wants to start one up I will happily dust off my hitbot script and send him 'traffic' :)

Kelli58 04-02-2011 05:43 PM

What the rude people who responded to you are trying to say is that yes, it is possible and it was done in 1996 to around 1998 and fraud was extremely heavy on both ends.

But more than the fraud issue, we learned something about quality. We learned that any two given sites are not equal by any means. Affiliate programs starting demanding results for their ad revenue and hence the rev share program was formed.

Back in the day people were big into things like TGPs. They would have crazy amounts of traffic but it produced really bad results. Basically what we learned is, shockingly, people who frequented free tpg sites, typically wanted free porn. Shocker, right? I know! I can't believe it myself! Visitors to free porn sites wanting free porn and only free porn? Who would have thunk it!

Seriously though ... it was then the the modern day affiliate program model was born. Some people adapted and survived, many, many, many did not.

Some people to this day are still running those crap ass free sites and wondering why they aren't making any money while others LOL at them.

I love listening to people go on and on about their sites with 23k Alexa ratings and 60,000 visitors a day (blah blah blah) yet in the end that traffic makes them almost no real money.

Then there is the one smart guy who has an Alexa ranking of 2 million, maybe getting 1,000 real visitors a day to his site but converts all of that traffic like mad and actually makes a nice profit from his site.

Trust me when I say, that's the guy you want to be.

Not these dumb asses that talk shit all day long on GFY about how great their site is and how much traffic their sites get. Because trust me, most of that traffic is crap.

Be the little guy with the small but high quality traffic. That's the guy who gets conversions and makes money.

$5 submissions 04-02-2011 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by inabon (Post 18027159)

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DVTimes 04-02-2011 06:59 PM

I understand that your refering to the past when it was done with 'affiliates'. But I am on about offering this option to surfers. With not huge rewards, just say a free pass or somthing.

It may be simple as if they post on there twitter site you offer per clicks credit.

A bit like big firms offer stars with lots of followers cash to post about there product.

If somone has lots of followers its worth getting them to promote your site.

i have seen some users have 500,000 or m,ore followers. Just a tweet from them could get you a few sales.

Chosen 04-02-2011 07:06 PM

:1orglaugh

VIXEN ESCORTS 04-02-2011 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 18027129)
while affiliate systems are set up for webmasters, why do we not have affiliate syatems set up for non webmasters.

You mean for people like you ?

AdultKing 04-02-2011 07:27 PM

Pay per click ad networks exist, however on the premise that you deliver their ads , as provided to you in their ad code to place on your site.

I highly doubt *any* reputable PPC program would allow you to just put links on twitter, it would be too hard to analyse fraud and cheating.

DVTimes 04-02-2011 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 18027318)
Pay per click ad networks exist, however on the premise that you deliver their ads , as provided to you in their ad code to place on your site.

I highly doubt *any* reputable PPC program would allow you to just put links on twitter, it would be too hard to analyse fraud and cheating.

well you would have an idea how many followers they have.

AdultKing 04-02-2011 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 18027319)
well you would have an idea how many followers they have.

It's not a risk model that our company would accept, I doubt it's a risk model any sensible company would accept.

lagcam 04-02-2011 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelli58 (Post 18027208)
...........I love listening to people go on and on about their sites with 23k Alexa ratings and 60,000 visitors a day (blah blah blah) yet in the end that traffic makes them almost no real money.

Then there is the one smart guy who has an Alexa ranking of 2 million, maybe getting 1,000 real visitors a day to his site but converts all of that traffic like mad and actually makes a nice profit from his site.

Trust me when I say, that's the guy you want to be.

Not these dumb asses that talk shit all day long on GFY about how great their site is and how much traffic their sites get. Because trust me, most of that traffic is crap.

Be the little guy with the small but high quality traffic. That's the guy who gets conversions and makes money.

Very true. I don't give a toss about traffic numbers. I care that what I have spends, and comes back and spends again.

kane 04-02-2011 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 18027279)
I understand that your refering to the past when it was done with 'affiliates'. But I am on about offering this option to surfers. With not huge rewards, just say a free pass or somthing.

It may be simple as if they post on there twitter site you offer per clicks credit.

A bit like big firms offer stars with lots of followers cash to post about there product.

If somone has lots of followers its worth getting them to promote your site.

i have seen some users have 500,000 or m,ore followers. Just a tweet from them could get you a few sales.

If that were he case you would need to offer people something of real value because I can see one of two situations forming. 1. If I am a person who has a ton of twitter followers I am going to value them a lot more than a free membership to a site that might cost me $30 to join so I am going to be very careful about what I link to. 2. If I don't have many followers I will have to work hard to get enough clicks sent over to earn said free membership and the amount of time I would have to spend to generate those hits will likely not be equal to the cost of a membership.

You would have to either offer something really expensive and make getting it as a traffic partner very worthwhile or you would have offer something very unique that will motivate people to check it out.

Love Sex 04-03-2011 06:55 AM

If you figure a way to do it you will make bank. people in thread are ignorant.

http://fun.ly/cash/ was doing it but twitter blocked the api.

signupdamnit 04-03-2011 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 18027279)
I understand that your refering to the past when it was done with 'affiliates'. But I am on about offering this option to surfers. With not huge rewards, just say a free pass or somthing.

It may be simple as if they post on there twitter site you offer per clicks credit.

A bit like big firms offer stars with lots of followers cash to post about there product.

If somone has lots of followers its worth getting them to promote your site.

i have seen some users have 500,000 or m,ore followers. Just a tweet from them could get you a few sales.

One of the main problems with this in adult is that most of your customers will not push a porn site on their personal twitter or Facebook. After all their mother, sister, and ten year old niece could read it. Forums tend not to work very well either because most popular forums with traffic are filled with pirates. Most won't buy they'll just download the content on the forum.

It's not a bad idea for mainstream though it has been done before.

L-Pink 04-03-2011 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelli58 (Post 18027208)
What the rude people who responded to you are trying to say is that yes, it is possible and it was done in 1996 to around 1998 and fraud was extremely heavy on both ends.

But more than the fraud issue, we learned something about quality. We learned that any two given sites are not equal by any means. Affiliate programs starting demanding results for their ad revenue and hence the rev share program was formed.

Back in the day people were big into things like TGPs. They would have crazy amounts of traffic but it produced really bad results. Basically what we learned is, shockingly, people who frequented free tpg sites, typically wanted free porn. Shocker, right? I know! I can't believe it myself! Visitors to free porn sites wanting free porn and only free porn? Who would have thunk it!

Seriously though ... it was then the the modern day affiliate program model was born. Some people adapted and survived, many, many, many did not.

Some people to this day are still running those crap ass free sites and wondering why they aren't making any money while others LOL at them.

I love listening to people go on and on about their sites with 23k Alexa ratings and 60,000 visitors a day (blah blah blah) yet in the end that traffic makes them almost no real money.

Then there is the one smart guy who has an Alexa ranking of 2 million, maybe getting 1,000 real visitors a day to his site but converts all of that traffic like mad and actually makes a nice profit from his site.

Trust me when I say, that's the guy you want to be.

Not these dumb asses that talk shit all day long on GFY about how great their site is and how much traffic their sites get. Because trust me, most of that traffic is crap.

Be the little guy with the small but high quality traffic. That's the guy who gets conversions and makes money.

Nice post.


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Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 04-03-2011 07:15 AM

Man would I ever rape that program...

woj 04-03-2011 07:59 AM

if it's for surfers, and you pay them with free memberships or something, what's the problem? so some wiseguy uses a bot and scores some free memberships, so what?

Kiopa_Matt 04-03-2011 08:14 AM

I think everyone is being a little harsh on PPC programs. I mean, Google Adsense seems to be going alright. I'm pretty sure Google is pretty happy they started that little program.

Barry-xlovecam 04-03-2011 10:06 AM

AdSense and AdWords have gotten better with dealing with clickbot traffic.

Really, this idea is a new twist on a past failed business model.

What is needed are real "adult social networks" where a person that links to porn is not seen as a perverted pirate.

http://www.leagueofreluctantadults.c...ogo-707758.jpg

L-Pink 04-03-2011 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 18028093)
Man would I ever rape that program...

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh I was part owner of a "search engine" that was one of goto's top earners. We tried to be as honest as possible .... looking back and seeing what is now acceptable and apparently legal business behavior we should have run our business like meth crazed vikings. The fucking money we left on the pay per click table was staggering.


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ajrocks 04-03-2011 10:51 AM

Sure if you want to go broke in a week! When you go live let me know so I can send traffic!

MetaMan 04-03-2011 11:20 AM

Reading your posts is like looking at a car accident. I cant help but look. I swear everytime i open one of your threads my IQ level drops. Im not to sure whether i should be mad or thanking you for this.


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