What would ratios look like with todays piracy problems and a 2005-2007 economy?
 

Lets say the average ratio today is 1:1000, how much better do you think it would be if there werent so many economic problems going on? 1:750? 1:500?

somebody doing 1:1000 today would be doing 1:350


and i don't think 1:1000 is average these days, it's worse than that. of course depends on how clicks are counted.

Yeah right. Ratios nowadays are around 1:3000 !!!
In those years my ratios were around 1:500/1:600.

porn is virtually recession proof. people want porn, end of story. porn is like cigarettes. a smoker can be down to his last $20, he'll buy a pack of smokes and figure out what he's going to do wit the other $10. if piracy were 100% eradicated, overall ratios probably wouldn't look any different than they did 10 years ago. :2 cents:

Loved your answer, people like you are here to stay

not sure what that means, but thnx i guess?

not true at all. plenty of the things they said were recession proof like booze cigs and gambling got hit. this recession is a different beast.

Porn was recession proof?

lol

That's true if you are looking at the tube site advertisement income as the main source of profits. If that's how you are looking at it then, yeah, porn will never die.

lol i was trying to say that you wont give up just like that you will always know how to adapt and keep on rocking the business.. tubes arent the end.. eventually something worst will come up

It isn't 2005, so who cares?

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Porn WAS recession proof when people had to pay for it. I've worked in this business through many recessions and they alway had little effect.

Now porn is so widely available for free and free is often better than paying for it the recession is just one reason people don't pay for it. If piracy was stopped today all the people pirating would go to Tube sites.

The notion that all of a sudden they would all start buying again is so wrong it beggars belief.

Free = Enjoy when you want to, no 30 day membership. No chance of getting ripped off. No chance of spending for crap porn. No chance of signing up to a site with only 30 scenes in. A very wide selection from different studios, different models and different shooters. Switch from 1 niche to another. If you don't like Pornhub today, go look on Slutboat or 1 of the dozens of others.

Paid = HD :Oh crap

Look at the % of people hitting your site. 0.05% ish. If piracy stopped. How many people were looking at a TGP before 1 clicked the "Buy Now" or "See More" link?

10, 20, 50? On The Hun it was possible to grind a server to a halt or cost more in BW than the return brought. Because of all the surfers enjoying free porn. So actually the real ratio was 1-5,000 or even 1-25,000 of surfers consuming porn to 1 buying.

Now compare that to ratios on a tube. Some videos get 1/2 million views. How many of them go look for the site, how many actually buy?

We spent a fortune teaching people not to buy and now pray that they will have to again. :Oh crap :Oh crap :Oh crap :Oh crap

It ain't going to happen, live with it. We made our beds and now we have to lie in them.

If I had those ratios I'd be really pissed, I've never gone over 1:1000 with my top sponsors. Ofc It depends on how you market It too.

ratios would be the same, it's the tubes that's killing porn, not economy

If people stopped giving away good stuff on their tours, even just a few stars to censor, it would make a huge difference to ratios

About 1:3000 is my average ratio for 2011. My topsponsors doing around 1:700 but unfortunately I have sponsors that I am using for years that are doing 1:6000/1:7000 nowadays...
In 2010 my average ratio on all my traffic was around 1:1900, 2009 was around 1:800.

Yes, clearly putting stars over someone's cunt on a tour will increase ratios.

BING BING BING

We have a winner!

Come on, everyone just put stars on the rude bits and all our problems will be solved!!!11oneoneone

Today I went through the stats of one of the largest paysites in the industry that has been around for over 10 years. In 2010 they had the best year since 2007 with significantly less traffic. The changes came from improvements they introduced that reduced their ratio and increased the avg member value. Everything is possible.

It's not that simple. Isolating one thing from another, I mean. Better economy would also lead to less piracy. Less piracy would lead to better economy.