Parents Threatened by TSA Before 6 Year Old was Groped, Girl then Broke Down in Tears
 

its beyond ridiculous i agree

the u.s. is not a police state but tsa needs to be reigned in.

Where were the tears? I agree it's a waste of time and money doing this at all and especially to a six year old but that seemed to be handled rather properly by the TSA. In the end they are just doing what they're told to, you probably would do the same if that was your job.

Did not see a problem with that.


There are a lot of people that will use their own children as mules to transport all kinds of things.


As long as they search everyone equally, i ok with it.

the agent seemed very gentle with the kid. there are worse things in the world.

Stop fucking whining. It's not like she was molested people need to get over it.

I turned down the body scanner each time and they give me a pat down. People need to stop being such whiny bitches.

y'all don't have a problem with a strange adult *patting down* children?

only a pervert would see that as sexual.

i think youre the one with the problem

do you see something sexual with a pat down involving a child? don't be disgusting

the video does not show it sorry, ?Initially she was just confused,? Todd Drexel said. ?Afterward she broke down crying because she really didn?t understand what she had done wrong.? he added.

did the tsa tell them to do this too? >>>

You are just going for the free groping :1orglaugh

where did i voice an opinion fuck wad? i don't have kids and was simply asking someone who does to expand on their view of the issue.

fuck you.

don't let gfy get to you :upsidedow

Dont they have walk through scanners that can pick up weapons and drugs instead of doing that to kids

i don't. :) but i do take advantage of the opportunity to hurl back some vitriol. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

i guess this guy's a perv too

"This conduct is in clear violation of TSA's explicit policy not to conduct thorough pat-downs on children under the age of 13," Rep. Jason Chaffetz, chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Subcommittee on National Security, said in a statement Wednesday.

They shouldn't fly if they have a problem with it...

i agree if you have a problem with that kind of shit then dont fucking fly

it makes me feel all safe and warm and toasty to see videos like that

I have more of an issue with my plane being blown up.




This is what is being done to everyone. All adults and all kids.


We have uncovered "shoe bombers," "underwear bombers" as a result of these searches.


I absolutely do not want to be on a plane that blows up because TSA missed the "Diaper" bomber.


People looking to do bad shit, do not play by any certain set of rules. Terrorist will not get you where you are expecting them try. They will get you where you least expect it. They have in the past and we would be stupid to think that it would never happen again in the future.



I have kids. A 3 year old and an 8 month old and i did not think that that TSA work did not do anything wrong. It is a job an it needs to be done as a terrorist deterrent and as safety measurement.



I will be the 1st to say that it sux, but it needs to be done. Its not like the child is being separated from his or her parents and put into a separate room to be searched without the parents present.:2 cents:

why even have patdowns? pretty sure el al does not do patdowns/xrays/invasive searches. they're pretty safe right? i've never flown them.

i appreciate it. :thumbsup

That shoe bomber was not caught by security he tried to set it off on the plane and it did not detonate

I bomb in my underwear on a daily basis :thumbsup

so el al does search baggage. i guess the trade-off is profiling eh-

I know.

But my point being is that the TSA has to be on alert for stupid shit like that.


Hey, it would be great if we can go back to the way shit was before 911, but we cant.



I dont dig on being searched or my kids being searched, but when i see all of the kids and people getting searched before me and after me the exact same way, i am OK with that.



The only thing that i will not ever be OK with is my plane being blown up, because TSA did not do there job good enough.:2 cents:

That's almost a rape! Fuck you TSA! Fucking gestapos!
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You are correct sir, the Israelis are probably the biggest target in the world and they do not perform these kind of intrusive practices. What they do is pre-screen everyone who approaches their airports by walking up and

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talking to them

Turns out a properly trained agent is able to identify behaviors consistent with a person with bad intentions. The ones they spot are segregated for further inspection. But they do not stop there, the outside screening is just the first step with people during the entire process of boarding a plane trained in what to look for.

If someone is willing to be patted down or run through a body scanner to help them feel safer then good for them, I consider it a violation of personal privacy. But who cares, just one more right we should give up for the state

Yep sure nobody wants to get blown up in mid flight but I thought these full body scanners were the biz They could just ask the kids to remove thier shoes and walk through the scanner instead of giving them a body search

The security is NOT equal for everyone.

Every time I fly, it's different for me. I also see other passengers getting different treatment.

When I flew from DFW to LGA, you'd have thought I was requesting top security clearance or something. They scanned me, meticulously searched my bags, and made me take my hoodie, shoes, belts, and jewelry off.

When I came back from LGA to DFW, they didn't scan me, pat me down, NOTHING. Meanwhile, many around me were getting the full treatment.

When my best friend flew with her child, they didn't search either of them nor did they put the child's bags through the bag scanner.

So no, it's not the same for everyone.

examples? urls?

Can compare Israel and the US. How many people that are not Israeli flying in and out of the country of Israel? How many different ethnic groups, religious groups, color groups, foreign groups, etc fly in and out of New York daily?


I would like to see Israel's top airport security team deal with a New York airport for one week with out pat downs and just with their keen Jedi training.



In short, its easy to spot a non-Israeli terrorist in an airport, in Israel, full of Israeli people.:2 cents:

I'm against the pat downs, but the TSA lady was very respectful and didn't do anything wrong to the little girl

that's a good point but i would like to think the system can be adopted to work here.

Where were the tears, did you make up that thread title to increase views?

From what i understand, not all airports are equipped with them. Very, very expensive.



Im not a huge fan of these searches either guys, but dying in a plane that got blown up because we thought that hand searches were too much, is not a trade i want to make.


Im down for something better than getting me and my family felt up, but we don't seem to have it readily available.


And even where they are using scanners, people opt to not get scanned and rather get hand searched because of the radiation issue.


No matter what we do or do not do, somebody will complain.:2 cents:

I have kids.... a pat down is nothing, hell tug the little balls if you want.. that's a hell of a lot better than sending a growing body and brain through a crazy ass body scanner.

I fly several times, I have gone to second inspection many many times and they never searched me as well as they searched that little girl. I am all for safty but jesus they could of put her under the xray machine.

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ya much safer. wow some of you are complete idiots.

So patting own a 6 year old meanwhile some REAL potential threat is just waltzing through security is doing their job? last time I checked Al Qaeda isn't recruiting 6 year old white girls for terrorist activities.

do i think patdowns are a waste of time? Yes i do, i think it should be xray only.

I also believe if this was pre 911 99.9% of you posting would be against this.

A lot of you are scared.

I think it sends a mixed signal to a child.

Don't go with or talk to strangers, and never let anyone touch you. Except the strangers at the airport.

Just imagine what it's going to be like 10 years from now.

TSA says 10sec in XRay machine = 3min of flight.

Body scanners emit less radiation than a cell phone ..how many kids do you see with thier face planted to one of those almost 24 hours a day

If the rules say that a woman must do pat downs on other women, why shouldnt the rule also be kids must do the pat downs on other kids?

The backscatter machines, meanwhile, are low-level X-ray machines that expose bodies to as much radiation as about two minutes of flying in an airplane does. In other words, if you already use a cell phone and you already fly, you are already exposing your body to more radiation than these scanners will.

Read more: http://news.cnet.com/8301-27083_3-10...#ixzz1JRAgu5m8

well these people might believe in stupid things but they are not really stupid. if scanners and pat downs are being used, they are obviously going to do something that would not be detected by these things, making these methods basically useless.

Kids are great with the truth.... explain to them what's going on, why, and what you do and don't like about it, afterward. The parents shouldn't be making a drama shit storm during that time either, the time isn't then to do that - which is another lesson kids need to learn.

Um I am against it. But im not a big whiny baby. I found it funny. I wear no under wear when i wear jeans, when the guy was patting the inside of my belt line pretty sure he caught a glimpse of my junk and asked if i could hold my pants up.

these people dont want to be patting down peoples junks. you losers act like their all molesters. get the fuck over it.

O so you're saying extra radiation is no big deal? lol. wow some of you truly are hilarious. Hey we already get lots of radiation, lets get some more! WOO HOO! more for everyone.

Im down for anything that keeps me from getting blown up in a plane.:thumbsup


Keep in mind if you and your family died in a plane that got blown up by a terrorist bomb and god was going to give you a "do over". A chance to get your life back and your families life back. But the "do over" had to be that TSA had to put a finger in your ass to fly and as a result of that finger in everyones ass before they boarded the plane, they stopped "the ass bomber" who if not fingered in his ass by TSA would have blown up the plane you and your family was on. What would you do?



Im no hero, but if a finger in my ass by TSA is going to bring me and my family back, im there:thumbsup:1orglaugh:1orglaugh




Look guys, im not a "would have, should have, could have" type guy. Im the guy that likes to do things once and right. "Thinking" its safe enough isn't good enough for me. "Knowing" that everything possible is being done to keep me and my family safe is everything. If that means a little more time, a few extra pats, my 3 year old daughter being pated down "in front" of me, i'm cool with that. Me and my family dying in a plane blown up by terrorists, i'm not cool with.:2 cents:

I have 0 sympathy for whiny parents and 0 sympathy for their whiny kids who will grow up to be whiny parents.