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Failed 05-11-2011 04:34 PM

Video Secrets Cookies = 0 days?
 
From a post on the pond, it was brought up that VS TOS shows a 0 day cookie. The affiliate then allegedly emailed VS and was told there is a 30 day cookie. However, when I just checked VS TOS, that section still appears:

6.5

(iii) A person shall not be deemed a "referral" entitling You to any commission or referral fee of any kind if that person leaves the Company site after having been directed there through the hyperlink banner ad or other promotional link (which has been supplied to You by Company) on Your website, without becoming an Company subscriber or purchaser of services of a type that entitles You to a commission or referral fee, even if at some later time that same person returns to the Company website(s), not through the banner ad or other promotional link (which has been supplied to You by Company) on Your website, and at that later time becomes a subscriber to the Company site or a purchaser of services from the Company.

If it was truly a 30 day cookie, why would the TOS not be changed in order to reflect that 30 day cookie?

CyberHustler 05-11-2011 04:44 PM

T.O.S. = the truth... the email will be blamed on a rouge employee come crunch time.

Fat Panda 05-11-2011 05:24 PM

Does this apply to white labels too?

rogueteens 05-11-2011 05:25 PM

bump for a VS reply

SA-Richard 05-11-2011 05:43 PM

bumpity bump

DBS.US 05-11-2011 05:49 PM

It's a Secrets:winkwink:

VladS 05-11-2011 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 18128003)
bump for a VS reply

Indeed... :2 cents:

Failed 05-11-2011 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 18128003)
bump for a VS reply

:thumbsup

Vendzilla 05-11-2011 06:51 PM

Official reply, I asked about the cookie settings just last week and was told they are for 30 days.

Failed 05-11-2011 07:18 PM

Thanks for the reply, V. Still leaves the question of why it's not written this way in the TOS, however. It's like Dedi said, TOS = truth or they could claim otherwise at anytime.

Vendzilla 05-11-2011 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Failed (Post 18128245)
Thanks for the reply, V. Still leaves the question of why it's not written this way in the TOS, however. It's like Dedi said, TOS = truth or they could claim otherwise at anytime.

It doesn't say one thing or another about it, but I will bring it up tomorrow.
Whats important has been answered

I looked on "the pond" and didn't see anything about this in recent time

JustJ 05-11-2011 07:50 PM

cascades.. 0 day cookies, what's next?

CyberHustler 05-11-2011 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustJ (Post 18128291)
cascades.. 0 day cookies, what's next?

One touch cockies...

Failed 05-11-2011 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 18128265)
It doesn't say one thing or another about it, but I will bring it up tomorrow.
Whats important has been answered

I looked on "the pond" and didn't see anything about this in recent time

It was an older thread, started February 6th 2011. Which is why I'm wondering why the TOS haven't been updated to reflect the response that affiliate apparently received via email. Search under "Tos" to receive the results.

It's important to me, as a VS affiliate, to have the TOS reflect that the cookie is either 30 days, or not. As it stands now, with the TOS section I posted, it's definitely not 30 days and the day of "take my word for it" agreements are long since gone.

CyberHustler 05-11-2011 08:51 PM

Hold up, you just said the tos SHOWS a 0 day cookie... fuck is up with that?

Failed 05-11-2011 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dedi (Post 18128414)
Hold up, you just said the tos SHOWS a 0 day cookie... fuck is up with that?

Read the section of the TOS I posted in the op, looks like a 0 day cookie to me.

CyberHustler 05-11-2011 09:06 PM

I just did. Fuck, maybe I smoked too much tonight. I'll reread again it in the morning.

Fat Panda 05-11-2011 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Failed (Post 18128390)
It was an older thread, started February 6th 2011. Which is why I'm wondering why the TOS haven't been updated to reflect the response that affiliate apparently received via email. Search under "Tos" to receive the results.

It's important to me, as a VS affiliate, to have the TOS reflect that the cookie is either 30 days, or not. As it stands now, with the TOS section I posted, it's definitely not 30 days and the day of "take my word for it" agreements are long since gone.

Almost all TOS are "take my word for it" agreements since programs "reserve the right" to change TOS anyway and anytime.

Only way to avoid this is to either start your own program and fuck over your own affiliates or be an affiliate and keep getting fucked in the ass

Failed 05-11-2011 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dedi (Post 18128439)
I just did. Fuck, maybe I smoked too much tonight. I'll reread again it in the morning.

:1orglaugh

In short, it says if a person clicks your banner and is taken to their site, and then leaves their site without making a purchase, even if that same user returns to the website later, it's not a referral and we get no commission.

So, a user has to make a purchase while they are on the site the very first time or we get dicked.

CyberHustler 05-11-2011 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Failed (Post 18128446)
:1orglaugh

In short, it says if a person clicks your banner and is taken to their site, and then leaves their site without making a purchase, even if that same user returns to the website later, it's not a referral and we get no commission.

So, a user has to make a purchase while they are on the site the very first time or we get dicked.

Wow, is this more "legal shaving" 'cause it's in the T.O.S.?????

Failed 05-11-2011 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAC (Post 18128445)
Almost all TOS are "take my word for it" agreements since programs "reserve the right" to change TOS anyway and anytime.

Only way to avoid this is to either start your own program and fuck over your own affiliates or be an affiliate and keep getting fucked in the ass

Sad but true. I guess I should be like 99% of the people out there and just not read the fucking things.

SallyRand 05-11-2011 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dedi (Post 18127785)
T.O.S. = the truth... the email will be blamed on a rouge employee come crunch time.

I think you mean "ROGUE", not "ROUGE"....................................... ....

I also think you slept through English class!

Grisey 05-11-2011 09:46 PM

Maybe this is why i only acutally have managed to send 1 guy to them ( and got credit ) over the last 4 months, but that one guys spends $2k a month... i wonder how much more i'm missing out on.

Mutt 05-11-2011 09:51 PM

do a test signup - you'll know soon enough whether it's a 30 day or a 0 day cookie.

Failed 05-11-2011 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 18128482)
do a test signup - you'll know soon enough whether it's a 30 day or a 0 day cookie.

I did around the time I created the thread. It just went through now. So, good news. I don't understand why you would want to leave your TOS like that though. It reads like there are absolutely no cookies, and if a user leaves the site, you're fucked. I hope they change it for their own sake.

cooldude7 05-12-2011 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBS.US (Post 18128077)
It's a Secrets:winkwink:

:thumbsup

now i got it, why my traffic never made sale.:winkwink:

Fat Panda 05-15-2011 09:24 PM

any info on this?

charlie g 05-15-2011 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SallyRand (Post 18128475)
I think you mean "ROGUE", not "ROUGE"....................................... ....

I also think you slept through English class!

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Do you have to try to be such a huge douche or does it come naturally to you? I generally afford respect to people on the interwebs and especially old people. But you are one miserable SOB!

Nathan 05-16-2011 12:20 AM

It is rather likely that this is legal protection. The TOS does not say there is a 0 day cookie, it says they do not have to pay you once the person leaves. If the person clears his cookies, or under many many other circumstances, this would keep them harmless.

I doubt there is more to it than that.

Vendzilla 05-16-2011 08:12 AM

The TOS is going to be reviewed soon by legal

The cookie is for 30 days, end of story

pornpf69 05-16-2011 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAC (Post 18128002)
Does this apply to white labels too?

white label = using your ref code

Vjo 05-16-2011 11:41 AM

From Firefox

Host: www.videosecrets.com
Path: /
Send for: Any type of connection
Expires: At end of session

GlobalCorp 05-16-2011 12:21 PM

Very interesting

Supz 05-16-2011 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Failed (Post 18128390)
It was an older thread, started February 6th 2011. Which is why I'm wondering why the TOS haven't been updated to reflect the response that affiliate apparently received via email. Search under "Tos" to receive the results.

It's important to me, as a VS affiliate, to have the TOS reflect that the cookie is either 30 days, or not. As it stands now, with the TOS section I posted, it's definitely not 30 days and the day of "take my word for it" agreements are long since gone.

This is not directed towards VS, but what will stop a sponsor from changing the TOS,Then in a month change it back and not email there affiliates. Then when you say it is in the TOS, they have already changed it.


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