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x-bob 05-14-2011 05:22 AM

BusterCash are the scammers from AdultProfit.com
 
Remember www.AdultProfit.com scammers? they closed up and ketp all webmaster monies?

Well they open a new program now www.BusterCash.com and Daizzy is spaming them eveywhere.

Proof:

Their new design has their old websites on them:
http://silvercrocodile.com/portfolio/paysites/156
http://silvercrocodile.com/portfolio/paysites/151


New domain have same whois info (screenshot):

1 BusterCash.com = BusterGroup.net
2.BusterGroup.net = WorldSexFiles.com
3.WorldSexFiles.com = Adult-Profit.com
4.BusterCash.com = APinterglobalgroup.com
5.Adult-Profit.com = APworldwide.net = Bro Boris
6.APworldwide.net = APinterglobalgroup.com = Adult-Profit.com = Bro Boris
7.adult-profit.com - apiinterglobalgroup.com


:warning CAUTION! :warning

marlboroack 05-14-2011 05:27 AM

Maybe it's not as accurate as you think it is. Maybe they were scammed themselves, then couldn't pay. Hell i donno, but your facts aren't vivid enough for me.

x-bob 05-14-2011 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marlboroack (Post 18137808)
Maybe it's not as accurate as you think it is. Maybe they were scammed themselves, then couldn't pay. Hell i donno, but your facts aren't vivid enough for me.

Adult-Profit.com were getting paid for MONTHS after they closed up. It was affiliates money. And they still kept it.

AdultKing 05-14-2011 05:45 AM

x-bob the new fake nick of the day speaks

x-bob 05-14-2011 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 18137827)
x-bob the new fake nick of the day speaks

are you defending the scammers?

AdultKing 05-14-2011 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by x-bob (Post 18137836)
are you defending the scammers?

I'm defending nobody, I just find it interesting you don't have the balls to post this using your real identity. :upsidedow

x-bob 05-14-2011 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 18137846)
I'm defending nobody, I just find it interesting you don't have the balls to post this using your real identity. :upsidedow

i;m afraid if the russian mafia

RadicalSights 05-14-2011 06:04 AM

Russian Mafia run adult affiliate programs?

Just Alex 05-14-2011 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 18137846)
I'm defending nobody, I just find it interesting you don't have the balls to post this using your real identity. :upsidedow

The owner himself confirmed on another webmaster board that he was part owner of Adult Profit. Ofcourse he had nothing to do with stolen affiliate $$$ and all clear now. he's the good guy, you know. But I must be a fake nick so I better leave.
Good luck getting fucked again. :2 cents:

MrDeiz 05-14-2011 06:05 AM

why are you missing the link, biatch :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1020906


Quote:

Originally Posted by x-bob (Post 18137793)


RadicalSights 05-14-2011 06:07 AM

their support email doesnt even work :1orglaugh

x-bob 05-14-2011 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daizzzy (Post 18137857)
why are you missing the link, biatch :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I don't understand what you are saying.


Why are you advertising them everywhere? They are scammers but you don't have them on your blacklist. So you take a bribe and don't really care if a program is good or not. Your service is worthless.

Caligari 05-14-2011 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daizzzy (Post 18137857)
why are you missing the link, biatch :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1020906

heh...why are you promoting scammers and rip offs??

http://silvercrocodile.com/portfolio/paysites/156 (note babylon X and celeb kings)

damn they have Babylon X right on their website.
whats the matter daizzy, you have a short memory or something?

MrDeiz 05-14-2011 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 18137938)
heh...why are you promoting scammers and rip offs??

http://silvercrocodile.com/portfolio/paysites/156 (note babylon X and celeb kings)

damn they have Babylon X right on their website.
whats the matter daizzy, you have a short memory or something?

you just don't know the details like i do
1. the guy behind bustercash was AP worker for a very long time
2. there's no AP peeps anyhow involved in bustercash
3. x-bob is a shitbag and dumb fuck. he has his personal conflict with bustercash and tries to hurt him that way by posting his perverted and manipulative 'facts'

Caligari 05-14-2011 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daizzzy (Post 18137941)
you just don't know the details like i do
1. the guy behind bustercash was AP worker for a very long time
2. there's no AP peeps anyhow involved in bustercash
3. x-bob is a shitbag and dumb fuck. he has his personal conflict with bustercash and tries to hurt him that way by posting his perverted and manipulative 'facts'

then i would suggest it is a very BAD idea to place screenshots of babylon X and celeb kings on a new celeb site if you don't want to be affiliated with adult profit.

i mean really wtf:1orglaugh

x-bob 05-14-2011 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 18137938)
heh...why are you promoting scammers and rip offs??

because they are probably paying him money to spam them and not to blacklist them on his site.

daizzzy is as bad as they are

:2 cents:

x-bob 05-14-2011 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daizzzy (Post 18137941)
you just don't know the details like i do
1. the guy behind bustercash was AP worker for a very long time
2. there's no AP peeps anyhow involved in bustercash

http://standupforamerica.files.wordp...e-bullshit.jpg

Caligari 05-14-2011 07:08 AM

I am a bit surprised because the majority of what Daizzy does is very legit and on the positive side of webmastering, so i am baffled by this.

x-bob 05-14-2011 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 18137958)
I am a bit surprised because the majority of what Daizzy does is very legit and on the positive side of webmastering, so i am baffled by this.

like all russians, he will do anything for money.

remember how he was trying to extort TMM? he told them: pay me or i won't list NATS operated sites.

Coup 05-14-2011 07:37 AM

Fuck scammers!

x-bob 05-14-2011 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coup (Post 18138022)
Fuck scammers!

Indeed.

Daizyy is a lying bastard.

He says: "the guy behind bustercash was AP worker for a very long time"


But that's not true, because the new program BusterCash.com is registered to the same company as Adult Profit (it's in the whois screenshots)

:2 cents:

Brujah 05-14-2011 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 18137846)
I'm defending nobody, I just find it interesting you don't have the balls to post this using your real identity. :upsidedow

I've posted it before. Plenty of threads with enough evidence about daizzzy's ties to bustercash and adult profit.

HomerSimpson 05-14-2011 04:57 PM

links (that were never put are now) pulled

Just Alex 05-15-2011 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daizzzy (Post 18137941)
you just don't know the details like i do
1. the guy behind bustercash was AP worker for a very long time
2. there's no AP peeps anyhow involved in bustercash
3. x-bob is a shitbag and dumb fuck. he has his personal conflict with bustercash and tries to hurt him that way by posting his perverted and manipulative 'facts'

And Im Yuri Gagarin.
Cut the shit.

Mutt 05-15-2011 03:04 AM

Right now, Buster Cash has thousands of Free Hosted Galleries in the AP affiliate database and we're adding new ones every week!

ooops! :1orglaugh

zentoz 05-15-2011 03:12 AM

I`m going to talk here only once (will not reply to any charges). Going to write here only facts:

1. Thats true, BusterCash is mine and I`m an ex-employee of AP. I was sites main developer since 2004.
2. AP was started by Boris in 2001. I was never 1 of owners of AP, I was getting 8% share. And I stoped getting my share in May 2010.
3. bustercash.com was at first registered to Boris, long time before he notified me on AP closing. But this new program was my idea and I purchased this domain from AP.
4. I have my own TGP sites, total about 250k celebrity network. Before AP was closed I promoted AP sites only. Even created my own landings for ap sites, that`s why I need to have some AP designs on BusterCash sites.
5. I opened BusterCash to promote it from my sites as first, to save traffic. Secondly to offer it to webmasters.
6. At the moment I use the same design company as I used to create AP sites. SilverCrocodile.
7. BusterCash already got webmasters and they are getting paid!


Counter-questions:
1. Do you really think I couldn`t hide BusterCash origin if I was continue as AP?
2. Do you really think I`ve created BusterCash for many 1000$ to scam? I need long term partnerships, I`m not getting out of the business.
3. Do you know any affiliate who didn`t get paid from BusterCash?

4. x-bob, who are you? This is not a first board where you are annoing me. Are you sick or something?
You are making view you know much about everything, even all truth about russian mentality. But all your words doesn`t cost even a broken coin. Go Fuck Yourself!

ps. daizzy, sorry you got involved into something like this. that`s why I usually don`t ask webmasters to say any word in my defence.

okdesign 05-15-2011 03:30 AM

interesting....

ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-15-2011 03:52 AM

I was here.

x-bob 05-15-2011 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zentoz (Post 18139488)
1. Thats true, BusterCash is mine and I`m an ex-employee of AP.

Lies! www.BusterCash.com is registered to the SAME company as www.AdultProfit.com
You are just a front, to fool webmasters into thinking that this was brand new program.


Quote:

Originally Posted by zentoz (Post 18139488)
2. I stoped getting my share in May 2010.

Lies! You were still sending traffic to them and was getting paid for MANY MONTHS after www.AdultProfit.com closed.


Quote:

Originally Posted by zentoz (Post 18139488)
I purchased this domain from AP.

How convenient! Did you also purchase the company, designs, etc?
Stop lying!


Quote:

Originally Posted by zentoz (Post 18139488)
BusterCash already got webmasters and they are getting paid

www.AdultProfit.com was paying out too for a brief time, until they had enough of affiliate rebills and then they just closed up and stole all the money.


Quote:

Originally Posted by zentoz (Post 18139488)
all your words doesn`t cost even a broken coin. Go Fuck Yourself!

Go fuck yourself too, scammer.

:321GFY

CamTraffic 05-15-2011 05:38 AM

http://englishrussia.com/images/russian_police2/1.jpg

~Ray 05-15-2011 05:56 AM

BusterCash has fleas

know what I mean?

2intense 05-15-2011 09:01 AM

bump for more views :(

Serge Litehead 05-15-2011 09:52 AM

Someone emailed me this thread

I'd like to state following for the record

SilverCrocodile has nothing to do with the claims stated in OP.
I certainly do not appreciate our name being put in the same line with words such as scam and proof.
Sites in our portfolio prove only one single thing: SilverCrocodile did in fact design both sites, and we are proud with the work we are doing. Many webmasters promoted and keep promoting sites we design, made great money while doing so while programs last and keep making money with programs that still run who order design with us. SilverCrocodile, nor I personally are not responsible for actions of our clients and anyone else for that matter.
SilverCrocodile does honest business and I would like to believe our integrity is in check. We have never scammed anybody for a single penny.
</end of official statement>


Hell, even we know what its like not getting paid for months of work (not referring to BC or AP), I can very well relate to people who been scammed and feel for them.


Who here was scammed by AP and how much they got you for? - without answer to this question with proof this thread is baseless attempt at trolling competition in to the mud in my opinion. I know AP closed their program, I know there were typical rage on here at the time of closing, but unlike with other programs, I cannot recall anyone actually mentioning how much did AP got them for, therefore at this moment I'm doubting these accusations even have any legs to stand on.

Just curious, X-bob, how much AP owes you?

Brujah 05-15-2011 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by holograph (Post 18140281)
Who here was scammed by AP and how much they got you for? - without answer to this question with proof this thread is baseless attempt at trolling competition in to the mud in my opinion. I know AP closed their program, I know there were typical rage on here at the time of closing, but unlike with other programs, I cannot recall anyone actually mentioning how much did AP got them for, therefore at this moment I'm doubting these accusations even have any legs to stand on.

I can understand you questioning x-bob but now you want to stick up for AP too? Zentoz is here in this thread and didn't even deny it himself. He practically acknowledged it but you're still wearing blinders. It's laughable if you think AP didn't scam many people for thousands of dollars. I'm one of them. How would you like me to prove it to you, and why should I bother? Are you going to reimburse me personally?

x-bob 05-15-2011 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by holograph (Post 18140281)
SilverCrocodile has nothing to do with the claims stated in OP.

I never said you were. I don't even know what you are doing in this thread. Altho i got a pretty good guess: AP / BusterCash emailed you and asked you to stick for them. (like they ask Daizzy, etc)


If you think AP didn't fuck over tons of webmasters, you must be trolling. Either way, just leave this thread, it's not about you.

Brujah 05-15-2011 12:05 PM

Anything new in this topic x-bob?
http://www.master-x.com/forum/topics/143020/

Serge Litehead 05-15-2011 12:10 PM

X-bob, I got anonymous message, I have no idea who sent it, for all I know it could be you (by the tone of it I'm guessing it was you), although honestly i don't care who sent it.
Once you dragged our name in to here I had to make my position clear on the issue because I know some people will be twisting things and making some false assumptions about our integrity. On a contrary to your another guess, I pointed this thread to Zentoz, not the other way around.

I'm not sticking up for scammers. All I said I haven't seen anyone being actually damaged by AP. at the time of AP closing people were raging that AP is shutting down, I didn't see anyone coming out saying AP got them for money like with all other closing programs, up until Brujah mentioned it here today above your post. You, X-bob yelling "AP scammers!" from anonymous nick, putting our site in the same line with your accusations - I have every right to question you, your motives and integrity.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 18140389)
I can understand you questioning x-bob but now you want to stick up for AP too? Zentoz is here in this thread and didn't even deny it himself. He practically acknowledged it but you're still wearing blinders. It's laughable if you think AP didn't scam many people for thousands of dollars. I'm one of them. How would you like me to prove it to you, and why should I bother? Are you going to reimburse me personally?

Where I'm sticking up to AP? I question what I have no idea about or limited knowledge of. I'm sure Zentoz know more than anyone here what actually happened. Do I know AP is BC now? - I have no idea. I can only attest that AP and BC did not scam us otherwise it would have been known by this time.
I'm sorry for anyone who got scammed, as we have been in the same position and I know how much it can hurt.
I would appreciate X-bob stating disclaimer that you had no intentions dragging SilverCrocodile here and used our site only for visual reference of sites in question - to bad though you didn't make a note of it in OP, without thinking your statements can hurt innocent company.

x-bob 05-15-2011 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 18140481)
Anything new in this topic x-bob?
http://www.master-x.com/forum/topics/143020/

All webmasters (except Daizzy) in that thread confirm that they are scammers.

x-bob 05-15-2011 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by holograph (Post 18140488)
Once you dragged our name in to here I had to make my position clear on the issue

Put the crack pipe down. Your name wasn't mentioned ANYWHERE.

Serge Litehead 05-15-2011 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by x-bob (Post 18140504)
Put the crack pipe down. Your name wasn't mentioned ANYWHERE.

You are referencing our urls as some sort of proof of your accusations in the OP.
SilverCrocodile has nothing to do with claims made towards AP and BC.

MrDeiz 05-15-2011 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by x-bob (Post 18140504)
Put the crack pipe down. Your name wasn't mentioned ANYWHERE.

you dumb crackwhore, i haven't even posted into that thread

kill yourself, make this world a better place :1orglaugh

x-bob 05-15-2011 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by holograph (Post 18140539)
You are referencing our urls as some sort of proof of your accusations in the OP.

That's right. Because you designed websites for both programs.
Design templates featured on your site have AdultProfit paysites listed on BusterCash websites. That's part of the proof.


Quote:

Originally Posted by holograph (Post 18140539)
SilverCrocodile has nothing to do with claims made towards AP and BC.

I never said you did.


Quote:

Originally Posted by daizzzy (Post 18140547)
you dumb crackwhore, i haven't even posted into that thread
kill yourself, make this world a better place :1orglaugh

Go away, russian scum.

MrBottomTooth 05-15-2011 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by holograph (Post 18140488)
X-bob, I got anonymous message, I have no idea who sent it, for all I know it could be you (by the tone of it I'm guessing it was you), although honestly i don't care who sent it.
Once you dragged our name in to here I had to make my position clear on the issue because I know some people will be twisting things and making some false assumptions about our integrity. On a contrary to your another guess, I pointed this thread to Zentoz, not the other way around.

I'm not sticking up for scammers. All I said I haven't seen anyone being actually damaged by AP. at the time of AP closing people were raging that AP is shutting down, I didn't see anyone coming out saying AP got them for money like with all other closing programs, up until Brujah mentioned it here today above your post. You, X-bob yelling "AP scammers!" from anonymous nick, putting our site in the same line with your accusations - I have every right to question you, your motives and integrity.




Where I'm sticking up to AP? I question what I have no idea about or limited knowledge of. I'm sure Zentoz know more than anyone here what actually happened. Do I know AP is BC now? - I have no idea. I can only attest that AP and BC did not scam us otherwise it would have been known by this time.
I'm sorry for anyone who got scammed, as we have been in the same position and I know how much it can hurt.
I would appreciate X-bob stating disclaimer that you had no intentions dragging SilverCrocodile here and used our site only for visual reference of sites in question - to bad though you didn't make a note of it in OP, without thinking your statements can hurt innocent company.

AP closed and never sent out final payments. That is not something that can be disputed. It is a fact.

d-null 05-15-2011 03:11 PM


Just Alex 05-15-2011 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zentoz (Post 18139488)
I`m going to talk here only once (will not reply to any charges). Going to write here only facts:

1. Thats true, BusterCash is mine and I`m an ex-employee of AP. I was sites main developer since 2004.
2. AP was started by Boris in 2001. I was never 1 of owners of AP, I was getting 8% share. And I stoped getting my share in May 2010.
3. bustercash.com was at first registered to Boris, long time before he notified me on AP closing. But this new program was my idea and I purchased this domain from AP.
4. I have my own TGP sites, total about 250k celebrity network. Before AP was closed I promoted AP sites only. Even created my own landings for ap sites, that`s why I need to have some AP designs on BusterCash sites.
5. I opened BusterCash to promote it from my sites as first, to save traffic. Secondly to offer it to webmasters.
6. At the moment I use the same design company as I used to create AP sites. SilverCrocodile.
7. BusterCash already got webmasters and they are getting paid!


Counter-questions:
1. Do you really think I couldn`t hide BusterCash origin if I was continue as AP?
2. Do you really think I`ve created BusterCash for many 1000$ to scam? I need long term partnerships, I`m not getting out of the business.
3. Do you know any affiliate who didn`t get paid from BusterCash?

4. x-bob, who are you? This is not a first board where you are annoing me. Are you sick or something?
You are making view you know much about everything, even all truth about russian mentality. But all your words doesn`t cost even a broken coin. Go Fuck Yourself!

ps. daizzy, sorry you got involved into something like this. that`s why I usually don`t ask webmasters to say any word in my defence.

Ah, the employee excuse. We haven't heard that one before.
And Boris. How did we forget about Boris. What about Vlad?

Phillipmcd1 05-15-2011 03:21 PM

That damn Boris again
http://imageshack.us/m/848/9403/shakingfist.jpg

merina0803 05-15-2011 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daizzzy (Post 18140547)
you dumb crackwhore, i haven't even posted into that thread

kill yourself, make this world a better place :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

alan-l 05-15-2011 04:27 PM

let me see if I'm getting this right:

1) Some russian scammers steal a huge amount of money
2) They close business
3) The thieves and scammers feel generous and give EVERYTHING to a former employee
4) the former employee relaunches with the same content, design, whois, etc and just chanes a couple URLs
5) then the former employee gets the support of only 2 people. By coincidence, both Russian.
6) At least one of those russian supporters believes the 'former employee / rogue designer / innocent party' is true for the first time in history

Am I losing something? :helpme

MrDeiz 05-16-2011 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alan-l (Post 18141048)
let me see if I'm getting this right:

6) At least one of those russian supporters believes the 'former employee / rogue designer / innocent party' is true for the first time in history

Am I losing something? :helpme



dude, i've got myself in different kinds of situations. you know... when the stuff goes way to much beyond the expectations. it's one thing once a company bangs credit card and other stuff. it's business thing. but for situations of such kind we should be humans on the first place.

and another thing is karma. if a guy lies it backfires much more
it works the same way for me, for you, bustercash and that x-bob fucker

harvey 05-16-2011 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by holograph (Post 18140539)
You are referencing our urls as some sort of proof of your accusations in the OP.
SilverCrocodile has nothing to do with claims made towards AP and BC.

It looks like he only tried to show both designs were basically the same, sorta "wayback machine" . It doesn't look like he's saying something bad about you or your company


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