Originally Posted by Chris (Post 18162785)

what foods did you eat?

Originally Posted by bossku69 (Post 18162810)

I'm on something similar, very very little carbs and they only come from vegetables later in the day.

The trick is cardio 2x a day. Once in the morning on an empty stomach and once later in the day

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18162750)

to kick start my summer shredding (thx dlxphil!) i decided to do lyle mcdonald's 12 day rapid fat loss program.

about the diet:



my results-

Initial measurements-------
total weight =160.6 lbs
bf measurement =10.9% bf

after 12 days---------
total weight =152.8 pounds
bf measurement = 8.3%

total weight loss = 7.8 pounds
total fat loss = 4.9 pounds
total lbm lost = 2.9 pounds (water, muscle, etc.)

total fat left = 12.6 pounds


i lost 30% of my total fat in 12 days.

plain & simple this is a 0 carb diet. well, as close to 0 as it can possibly be, i consumed 3-5g of carbs a day, due to not being able to get rid of those few. this means mind-blurring ketosis for several days. you will need will power to reach you goal of finishing this diet but you will be glad you did. the good news is that since it is only 12 days, you can see the light at the end of the tunnel.

i would recommend this diet for anyone who has an event coming up ASAP and needs to drop some pounds to fit into that bikini or banana hammock.

If you are a body builder, this diet RLY worked to preserve my LBM. Also, if you are obese, this diet was originally designed for you.

I would not recommend this to anyone who has a hard time adhering to a diet plan.
It is extremely hard to keep within the boundaries of this diet but the results will be there if you do.

i also combined this diet with the lean gains protocols- intermittent daily fasting, i.e., i went 16+ hours every day without eating, consuming all my cals between 1pm and 9pm. on the weekend in the middle, i fasted 24 hours between fri-sat & sat-sun, consuming all my cals in 1 meal saturday evening and 1 meal sunday evening.

A+

more info
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/the...-loss-handbook
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein..._Modified_Fast
http://www.wannabebig.com/diet-and-n...crash-dieting/

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18162822)

i was unable to do virtually ANY exercising on this diet, especially cardio. i did resistance training 4x over the 12 day period. i did do my daily walks but even those were very very hard. the diet protocol only calls for limited exercise.

Originally Posted by Alky (Post 18162994)

Erm this isn't a 0 carb diet if you ate avocados, spinach etc - just no sugar carbs... so this is just CKD but in starvation mode?

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 18162998)

Very impressive, but why did you go on the diet in the first place?


As you can see, starvation mode isn't involved.

Originally Posted by PornGreen (Post 18162999)

isn't that type of diet supposed to shed intense amounts of water weight? i dont see how that could only have shed 2.9lb of water. maybe i'm missing something?

Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 18163045)

Was that cause your energy felt low? Did you feel exhausted while on it?

Originally Posted by JamesGw (Post 18163063)

I'm not really a fan of diets like this, unless you're really looking to lose weight quickly (such as if you're fighting.) When I'm preparing my clients for a fight, I usually cut out all carbs and sodium to make them drop weight as quickly as possible. That said, adhering to a diet like this for no reason isn't well-advised. There's been some evidence indicating that rapid weight loss can decrease testosterone levels and mess up your metabolism. Be careful.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18163059)

it's hard to describe, it wasn't exactly like low energy. more like that feeling you get when you are soaking in a hot bath and stand up real fast, know what i mean?

:)

Originally Posted by NETbilling (Post 18162982)

Isn't this just like Atkins but even more intense?

Originally Posted by NETbilling (Post 18162982)

Isn't this just like Atkins but even more intense?

Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 18163082)

Was it like a prolonged fast? I did a 30 day fast once. Totally not healthy, totally not recommended, did it a few years ago to win a bet. At the end I was super light headed. I lost a little over 30 lbs in a month but I'd never do it again.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18163090)

from the book re: metabolism-

So when you start dieting, eating less and losing bodyweight, your hypothalamus senses it and your body slows metabolism, increases your hunger/appetite levels, and alters hormone levels in a generally negative fashion. To a much lesser degree, when you overeat and start gaining weight, your hypothalamus increases metabolic rate, decreases your hunger/appetite, and ramps up certain hormones.

So when you start a diet, eating less and losing weight, your body notices it and starts to adjust metabolism downwards.

This ties in with the information on metabolic slowdown that I presented in the last chapter. As I made reference to, how hard and how fast metabolism tends to crash on a diet depends on a lot of factors including gender and genetics (neither of which we can control). But one of the main ones is initial bodyfatness: fatter individuals can usually diet longer without needing a break from the diet (both a psychological and physiological break) than leaner individuals. So once again your diet category will determine how long you can and/or should stay on the crash diet: the lower the category, the less time you should be on the diet before taking a break of some sort.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18163098)

sorry missed this, yes it is. :)


i am not too familiar with a prolonged fast, a 30 day fast must have been difficult to say the least.

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 18163100)

So what did your daily P/C/F percentages look like? Also, I don't like eat/stop/eat because it's too extreme. I've found that Martin's leangains IF mixed with CKD works best.

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 18163100)

So what did your daily P/C/F percentages look like? Also, I don't like eat/stop/eat because it's too extreme. I've found that Martin's leangains IF mixed with CKD works best.

Also, http://www.ironmagazine.com/ebooks/T...s_Handbook.pdf

Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 18163123)

It was difficult and dumb. I think it was only over like $300 too :1orglaugh

Learned my lesson, never again. :thumbsup

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18162822)

i was unable to do virtually ANY exercising on this diet, especially cardio. i did resistance training 4x over the 12 day period. i did do my daily walks but even those were very very hard. the diet protocol only calls for limited exercise.

Originally Posted by O MARINA (Post 18163407)

How you got your abs in 1 minute:

Originally Posted by O MARINA (Post 18163399)

I am not reading all this

pics?

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 18163402)

Thanks.. This is the answer I was looking for. I am almost finished with a 9 week cycle and dont want to do another juice fast. I will try this.. :thumbsup





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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 18163353)

I like what I'm reading thus far. Unfortunately I'm not sure I have your discipline to execute this, knowing that it would be effective if I did. I don't know about you but I don't function well without carbs, so even ketosis is hard to get into. I might try this for 3-5 days and see how it goes, it sounds very effective though.

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18163489)

I don't really understand this stuff.

You seem to try a lot of different programs. If you wanted to lose weight now, why did your last program fail? And at what point will you be back up to 160? What's the point of being at 152 right now? What's next?

This just seems like a huge yo-yo and I don't see how that can be good for you long-term or how it can even make sense long-term. Unless you just like experimenting?

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 18163492)

It's called a "crash diet" for a reason and the way Mcdonald outlines it, it's pretty healthy for a short while.

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18163494)

Okay so what is the ultimate goal? Look nice for a couple weeks?

Originally Posted by NETbilling (Post 18162982)

Isn't this just like Atkins but even more intense?

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza (Post 18163505)

yeah im cutting weight right now miserable.... im ready to kill someone...


can we talk about the fatty shit im going to eat thursday at 7pm please please pretty please.....

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18163494)

Okay so what is the ultimate goal? Look nice for a couple weeks?

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18163489)

I don't really understand this stuff.

You seem to try a lot of different programs. If you wanted to lose weight now, why did your last program fail? And at what point will you be back up to 160? What's the point of being at 152 right now? What's next?

This just seems like a huge yo-yo and I don't see how that can be good for you long-term or how it can even make sense long-term. Unless you just like experimenting?

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18163494)

Okay so what is the ultimate goal? Look nice for a couple weeks?

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 18163546)

Atkins is just a general version of a ketogenic diet.

Lyle McDonald is a mad scientist when it comes to this topic. Everything he does is well researched and well supported by rock solid science, endless published/peer reviewed studies etc. So if he's saying "do XYZ between 9pm and 10pm" - there is a concrete, well founded reason for it.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18162750)

Initial measurements-------
total weight =160.6 lbs
bf measurement =10.9% bf

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18163709)

proof you have no idea what is going on here.

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18163770)

You're right. I don't. That's why I'm asking.

Assumptions? You post about diet and health nonstop, which is great. It seems to be all over the place though.

Is this program in line with the program you did a year ago and toned up so much? And then you posted about trying a new program where you did something totally different. And now this fat crushing program.

What am I missing?

I'm not hating at all, trying to figure out what you are doing.

Originally Posted by JFK (Post 18163084)

sure sounds like it, I'll try it just so my "banana hammock" will fit :upsidedow

Originally Posted by pimpporn (Post 18163423)

Congrats on the fat loss but 152 lbs? Thats too small imo for somebody trying to be muscular.
EDIT: unless you are under 5'7

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18163770)

You're right. I don't. That's why I'm asking.

Assumptions? You post about diet and health nonstop, which is great. It seems to be all over the place though.

Is this program in line with the program you did a year ago and toned up so much? And then you posted about trying a new program where you did something totally different. And now this fat crushing program.

What am I missing?

I'm not hating at all, trying to figure out what you are doing.

Originally Posted by Cory W (Post 18163831)

He manipulates, but I wouldn't say to any extreme levels really. I'd say his base is always pretty much the same.

One thing I will add in, apologies if its been mentioned, but when you lower carbs, on day two, you start to lose extreme appetite. I know it sounds crazy, but if anything, I find myself sometimes battling to eat anything. Its funny every time I tell someone how easy it is to lower the carbs down. Its like a couple days that are a bit weird for me.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18163914)

but i've gained muscle over the last ~15 months- without gear.

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18163889)

That's a hell of a diet... I would starve on it, shit I'm hungry reading it. Then again I'm not looking to lose any weight or cut down. :)

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 18163964)

have you considered testosterone? i have heard a lot of positive feedback about starting t therapy at age 40.

the anti aging benefits seem to far outweigh the lifting benefits. but, based on your diet do you think you have raised your t naturally?





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Originally Posted by Cory W (Post 18163981)

You will be less hungry.