Attack Manwin at their own game ?
 

How about some DMCA free jurisdiction servers running a few tubes full of manwin only content ?

Then buying heaps of banner space on torrent sites.

I'm actually seriously thinking about it.

Do it.

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I might need some help logistically, how about a coalition of the willing ?

The idea has been brought up already. Get some bulletproof Chinese servers and rock out. I would love to see their reaction.

Manwin can go fuck themselves, I really am willing to invest cash in employing their own business model against them.

Let me predict something, nothing is going to happen.

No offense.

manwin is like an 800 pound gorilla raping a flock of sheep. The solution is to find a 7000 pound elephant to rape the gorilla. ( because elephants don't like raping sheep , they love the soft feel of wool )

Plenty of 100gb brazzer content packs on private trackers, would be easy to get all of their content.

Do it... Please! I dare you! :)

And what could you do about it Nathan ? It's about time your company started acting more responsibly, what else will get your fucking attention ?

Exactly! Our content is already out there bring heavily traded... And we are not running around crying...

good luck with that :thumbsup

Good, you won't mind if it happens then. I have already had 4 icq's offering help if we go through with the idea.

I will be watching

AdultKing, do you seriously think nobody is trading our content and uploading it to tubes???

Our brazzers division is DMCAing our tube division all the time, just like we send out 100 dmca notices to other sites every single day.

It's a part of doing business, it's the way the law works.

We follow all the rules, if you think the way to "beat us at our own game" is to BREAK dmca rules and upload our content to your own sites, do it. It will just get you sued. And you WILL lose, wherever you host it.

Well,... if EVERYONE with content was busy making millions off the theft and distribution of OTHER PEOPLES CONTENT, then it might not be an issue for them either.

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News flash for you sport, US laws mean fuck all in many other countries, also on paper I own nothing, so the most you can sue me for is my dog and cat!

AK, do whatever you think is the right business decision... Just do not come complaining if it bites you in the ass later.

so you steal but do not steal you. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh fuck you.

Isn't Manwin's game making money? Shouldn't you be trying to do that anyways? If you could beat them at their own game, you wouldn't be here whining about it.

Care factor 0.

That's ok, think what you want.

Mind showing us one example where you sued someone and they lost?

So basically you stealing from yourself too,great success.

you do realize that the safe harbor provision is IN the DMCA

if you put up a site outside the scope of the DMCA you LOSE that safe harbor protection.

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No, I am not stealing anything. Users of our tubes love brazzers content so much that they upload it for others to see. If our brazzers team thinks it's counter productive they dmca it.

Has nothing to do with US stealing anything.

(this will be developing into a fun thread!)

Care factor now in negative numbers.

lol I was thinking the exact same thing :1orglaugh

Lot's of people seem to be on your side Nathan. :1orglaugh

AK, it so has nothing to do with what loud-mouth on gfy is on my side or not... Imagine, there are people in this industry that do not post here in every thread about my company.

I agree.

I think they will buy you if it becomes a success.

oh man......

Whenever I put my branded content on the tubes it doesn't get enough views!
Fabian, feature my shit more on the front page please

I usually don't respond or get involved with threads like this. I am a smaller network, but we do always watch what the bigger fish in our pond are doing. I would like to say, in regards to this, Nathan, why not take the high road and lead by example? What is the harm in just doing honest business if these content theft rumors are true.

Because we sell flesh everyday, does that mean that we have to be shady in business? Are we any less than a mainstream business? Do we have less worth? The short answer is no. I don't know, if I were the head honcho at Manwin, I would rather be looked up too, admired, be someones aspiration, rather than having thousands of people across the world in the same business as me, praying every day for my demise. ...Just sayin :2 cents:

Hey, at least you tried!

you would have to go the extra step to blur out their logos on the videos too, just to make sure they get no benefit.

I do not consider what I do shady. That would imply I am trying to hide my true intentions...

My intentions are simple. I run tube sites. They currently fall under DMCA rules and regulations. I am running them clean and perfectly legal. Next to tube sites, I own one of the, if not the biggest paysite networks in the industry which has as much if not more content being uploaded to tubes, torrents and file lockers as anyone else in the industry every day.

Instead of sticking my head in the sand and trying to bitch about a law, I try to control the part of the industry that many feel is hurting it. Better me controlling it than some russian kid.

It's not just my tube division that I am expanding, it's also my paysite division, as you will relatively soon see... If I thought the industry was dieing I would clearly not do that...

Serious question here Nathan.

How many videos DMCA's get reloaded less than a week later onto your tubes ?

AK, not many as far as I can see... and we have a clear repeat infringer policy, usually the same person would upload it again, so they would be quickly banned.

We are looking at ways to tag videos and recognize if they get re-uploaded, but do not have anything definite yet as far as I know.

AdultKing, I did the same thing you are thinking. I hosted with a company in the Netherlands who didn't give a shit about DMCA law. Then I paid a team of Filipinos to upload Brazzers and Mofo videos day and night. Must have been 1000s of scenes.

Then I bought a ton of traffic, got the usual sponsors, popped up webcams , you name it.

And you want to know what happened? Manwin bought the host and shut the site down.

So you wanna know what I did? I fucking moved it to another host. :thumbsup

Then Manwin bought that one too and shut the site down again.

I figured third time is a charm, so I hosted it in China. I figured for starters, they don't allow porn but since I know a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy named Chow, I figured we could make it happen and it would be untouchable.

Guess what happened?

Yup. Manwin bought them too. But did they shut the site down? No, they shut the whole host down AND told the Chinese authorities about the operation and the guys went to prison for 7 years each. Poor Chow.

To put it into perspective, do you think an army of piss ants who built a colony under a super highway even knows that super highway exists? They don't. It is too huge for them to even know it's there. So they just go on about their piss ant business oblivious to what is happening above them. But every now and then those piss ants climb up on the highway by mistake can get squished.

My point is, they are a steamroller driving full speed on a super highway and you are a piss ant. And collectively, we are an army of piss ants standing in the face of this steamroller up on a super highway.

And I know what you're thinking. You're thinking that while a piss ant may not know about the super highway, he may know about the steamroller. Right? I thought the same thing and boy was I wrong. Because what Chow and I found out was... they own the super highway AND a fleet of steamrollers. So not only do we not even know that the super highway is there, but on it is not just one steamroller, but an army of steamrollers. And you know what they are doing? They are running over piss ants who are busy looking for some sugar or a rotten apple to eat.

Nathan can confirm my story is true.

FREE CHOW! :2 cents:

Gimmick infrindgement...

FREE CHOW ! ! !

No Way, there is some asian dude named Chow in jail right now? Really? I'm usually gullible, but this seems extreme.
If it is true, do you feel bad for Chow? Like partly responsible? It's like living with the guilt of a drunk driving accident where you hit someone with your car and they became paralyzed. Ok not really, but damn son, 7 years????

Gimmick infringement on 12clicks.

SON, FREE CHOW ! ! !

start a tube and when u get popular , sell it to them , its the one way .

or keep changing hosts......

Free chow!

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I just spit my coffee on my screen. That is way too funny!!



I know this isn't popular, but you are better off politely and respectfully engaging Nathan/Manwin and see what you can do business wise "today" to further your business or stay in business. Yelling, screaming and complaining about who did what when, wont help you out "today."


Manwin is here and are not going anywhere. All bullshit aside I know that there are a lot of site owners working with Manwin and are using the tube traffic to get sales. Its turing into an affiliate/sponsor relationship that seems to be working.


Not ass kissing, just stating a fact that is relevant "today". So you can make nice with the 800 pound gorilla or get eaten by it. The choice is yours.:2 cents:

And don't you think this thread id enough proof to put you in the slammer?

whaccha serving , it's lunch time ?