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d-null 05-31-2011 05:01 PM

signing a contract and then emailing the scan as an attachment
 
does this make it legal?

how about if you never even print out the contract, just put it in Photoshop and sign your signature using a mouse and then email the pdf?

or does a signature have to be using a real pen and ink on real paper to be valid?

CYF 05-31-2011 05:02 PM

lots of places are accepting electronic signatures as legally binding.

d-null 05-31-2011 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CYF (Post 18181553)
lots of places are accepting electronic signatures as legally binding.

so it is cool to just take a contract someone emailed to you to sign, stick it in photoshop, scribble my signature with the mouse, and email it back? rather than go through the hassle of printing it out, signing it with a pen, heading down to the local fedex store and paying a dollar to fax the hardcopy to them.... seems like it makes just as much sense just to do the whole thing digitally, even though my mouse written signature looks pretty rough compared to a pen

Agent 488 05-31-2011 05:12 PM

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TidalWave 05-31-2011 05:14 PM

They might not accept it.
If they want to be able to do digital signatures, they would be using www.docusign.com or www.echosign.com

d-null 05-31-2011 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 18181572)

:1orglaugh Putin doesn't have any authoritah here

d-null 05-31-2011 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TidalWave (Post 18181580)
They might not accept it.
If they want to be able to do digital signatures, they would be using www.docusign.com or www.echosign.com

ok, but realistically there isn't logically a lot of difference between faxing and emailing an attachment, in both cases it is digitized information being transmitted

would a company state that they want a fax but not an email just because it looks more legit?

kristin 05-31-2011 05:55 PM

It's a signed, legit contract if sent via email. The Photoshop part, no clue.

I just print out the last page, sign, scan and email.

Barry-xlovecam 05-31-2011 06:54 PM

Most jurisdictions allow electronic signature now and this would include facsimile transmission. An emailed image has standing as a facsimile transmission.

http://constructionlawnews.com/contract-terms

http://www.wolframlawfirm.com/LawDog...s-applies.aspx

Reciprocity in promissory estoppel;

If you agree to a contract, work is commenced and payment made promissory estoppel is created and future actions are usually governed by the contract's terms if not in conflict with the UCC "Statute of Frauds" (US Law).

*not to be construed as legal advice

pamon 05-31-2011 06:57 PM

programs like pdfpenpro on the mac allow you to sign them electronically.

DamianJ 06-01-2011 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-null (Post 18181550)
does this make it legal?

how about if you never even print out the contract, just put it in Photoshop and sign your signature using a mouse and then email the pdf?

or does a signature have to be using a real pen and ink on real paper to be valid?

http://www.smilesoftware.com/PDFpen/ is your friend

ilnjscb 06-01-2011 01:05 AM

I've had electronic contracts enforced by the courts in the US, especially if there is evidence that the document was regarded as "in force".

Emil 06-01-2011 01:51 AM

If Obama use a autopen to sign the Patriot act extension.....

DWB 06-01-2011 02:56 AM

Use a pen tablet, sign it digitally, send it.

grumpy 06-01-2011 05:36 AM

confirmation by email is already legally binding

Supz 06-01-2011 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by grumpy (Post 18182446)
confirmation by email is already legally binding

This is true.

So yea. All of the above. I take signed contracts like this every day.

seeandsee 06-01-2011 06:05 AM

it's country to country proabbly

Spudstr 06-01-2011 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CYF (Post 18181553)
lots of places are accepting electronic signatures as legally binding.

Its now law that e-signatures are just as binding as a normal signature.

See "Electronic Signatures in global and national commerce act aka ESIGN Act

punker barbie 06-01-2011 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kristin (Post 18181653)
It's a signed, legit contract if sent via email. I just print out the last page, sign, scan and email.

exactly & you can buy a printer with a scanner for less than $100 bucks.


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