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sleazydoesit 06-02-2011 10:35 AM

Is it necessary to have multiple hosting accounts for SEO?
 
If I have 20 different websites linking to one site, do I need to have them spread out over several different hosting accounts for SEO reasons? How many is enough?

Thanks!! Advice is always appreciated.

Emil 06-02-2011 10:51 AM

No, but I always put them on their own IP if I'm going to interlink everything.

d-null 06-02-2011 10:52 AM

it might not be a matter of "need" so much as for what is optimal

optimal would be to have many completely unrelated and spread out sites linking to you

there is a lot of work involved in doing it right if you think you will be able to fool google though, proxies, clean browsers, etc etc etc :2 cents:

Barefootsies 06-02-2011 10:55 AM

Nope. However, make sure you set up all your shit correctly.

1. Different Name Servers
2. Different C-Block IP's
3. A-B-C Linking Strategies
4. Different Registrars
5. Do Not Use Same Analytics Account (yes, people have done this)

Good luck fine sire.

d-null 06-02-2011 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 18189276)
Nope. However, make sure you set up all your shit correctly.

1. Different Name Servers
2. Different C-Block IP's
3. A-B-C Linking Strategies
4. Different Registrars
5. Do Not Use Same Analytics Account (yes, people have done this)

Good luck fine sire.

agree with all this, but taking step 5 further, you don't want to use google toolbar either, or chrome for that matter when working on your sites, and of course adsense is impossible too (if mainstream)

sleazydoesit 06-02-2011 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 18189276)
Nope. However, make sure you set up all your shit correctly.

1. Different Name Servers
2. Different C-Block IP's
3. A-B-C Linking Strategies
4. Different Registrars
5. Do Not Use Same Analytics Account (yes, people have done this)

Good luck fine sire.

I guess it's time to learn what the hell a C-block IP is!

Thanks to all for the input. More opinions are welcome :thumbsup

Relentless 06-02-2011 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 18189276)
Nope. However, make sure you set up all your shit correctly.
1. Different Name Servers
2. Different C-Block IP's
3. A-B-C Linking Strategies
4. Different Registrars
5. Do Not Use Same Analytics Account (yes, people have done this)
Good luck fine sire.

And be sure to get domain privacy (yes, people mess that up as well) :2 cents:

Relentless 06-02-2011 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleazydoesit (Post 18189288)
I guess it's time to learn what the hell a C-block IP is!
Thanks to all for the input. More opinions are welcome :thumbsup

Contact Gerard at Webair. He can assist you I am sure. :2 cents:

CyberHustler 06-02-2011 11:05 AM

Weed has been known to help ease the "edge" from severe cases of SeoParanoia :2 cents:

d-null 06-02-2011 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 18189293)
And be sure to get domain privacy (yes, people mess that up as well) :2 cents:

but then if all your backlinks come from the same exact domain privacy, that won't look natural to google either, I often wonder if the only smart way to do it is to take the chance of using completely different completely fake whois on each and every domain, and also make sure your domain registration dates are not all the same

it is not an easy task at all to pull off well enough to pass manual review scrutiny if your network ever gets enough traffic to attract attention

sleazydoesit 06-02-2011 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 18189293)
And be sure to get domain privacy (yes, people mess that up as well) :2 cents:

I already use Webair! But I don't know that guy...

Why is domain privacy important? Does google compare whois records too?? Geeezzzz

d-null 06-02-2011 11:08 AM

and it is easy to attract attention, just get high rank for any half decent traffic keywords and there will be many webmasters picking apart your site and links, and reporting you if they want your serp position themselves

Agent 488 06-02-2011 11:09 AM

why bother. just build out links to sites other than your own and forget about it.

CurrentlySober 06-02-2011 11:09 AM

Yes, absolutely an absolute necessity in an absolute way. Absolutely!

sleazydoesit 06-02-2011 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 18189314)
why bother. just build out links to sites other than your own and forget about it.

Easier said than done... it's like that old problem, "it takes money to make money". I don't have money (traffic), so who's gonna want to trade links with me? Gotta start somewhere. :(

I'd be willing to pay for hardlinks (that's what they're called right?) but I need to get pricing info.

JamesGw 06-02-2011 11:12 AM

The c-block is the third number in your IP. Google will presumably devalue links from the same c-block IP.

As for the analytics / adwords / adsense thing: I'm not entirely sure if your links will be devalued because of that. I've never been able to find reliable documentation on the topic. I guess you might as well to be safe.

d-null 06-02-2011 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleazydoesit (Post 18189320)
Easier said than done... it's like that old problem, "it takes money to make money". I don't have money (traffic), so who's gonna want to trade links with me? Gotta start somewhere. :(

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go to linkspun, you will find people willing to trade links with you

sleazydoesit 06-02-2011 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-null (Post 18189328)
go to linkspun, you will find people willing to trade links with you

Linkspun works for you? I've heard of it, will give it a try.

sleazydoesit 06-02-2011 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesGw (Post 18189321)
The c-block is the third number in your IP. Google will presumably devalue links from the same c-block IP.

Thanks James! I'll get on it.

baddog 06-02-2011 11:35 AM

You do not "need" different hosting accounts, but spreading your domains around on various IPs with different C's definitely helps if you are interlinking.

GotWebHost.com can provide dedicated IPs on different C's with a different nameserver for each IP, or you can use private nameservers.

Agent 488 06-02-2011 11:35 AM

yes just build a bunch of sites and do link trades at linkspun. since you are new to this don't bother with any of this seo hosting shit yet.

CyberHustler 06-02-2011 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleazydoesit (Post 18189221)
If I have 20 different websites linking to one site, do I need to have them spread out over several different hosting accounts for SEO reasons? How many is enough?

Thanks!! Advice is always appreciated.

In my opinion based on my own trials and errors... No, you do not have to. From my experience, google cares more about the originality and quality of the content on each page and couldn't give one less a fuck if you're linking to yourself.

Frasier 06-02-2011 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dedi (Post 18189413)
In my opinion based on my own trials and errors... No, you do not have to. From my experience, google cares more about the originality and quality of the content on each page and couldn't give one less a fuck if you're linking to yourself.

there is some truth in there

there is also some truth on needing to hide what you do from google.

Contradictory iddn't it?

I'll tell you the 2 best reasons to spread out your sites across multiple c classes.

reason 1: linktrading on linkspun. Many people will not trade with you OR trade as MUCH with you if all your sites are on the same ip. If I were starting over, I'd put one site per niche per ip. Example, a stockings site, a big tit site, a gay site, a bbw site, a bdsm site etc etc all on one ip - rinse repeat. There are multiple benefits to doing that

reason 2: future paid links sales when you have many many sites.

that is all

sleazydoesit 06-02-2011 11:51 AM

You guys are awesome! I can't believe I used to sit around for days waiting for some wisdom from Ynot. The people there know their shit, but there just aren't enough of them.


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