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TubeKing 06-05-2011 06:53 AM

lolololol Paul M you're such a fucking idiot
 
https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18190763&postcount=366


Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18190763)
Will email you the details, it was from one of the sites Shap bought that had our a license for our content that he re-licensed. Now I'm assuming Manwin has bought the site and with it using the content, so it needs a new license.

Think of licenses like traffic. If you buy the site you get the traffic and need to pay for it.

I'm sure as someone who wants to clean up Manwin's act, you'll be only too happy to make sure everything is right. :thumbsup



this gem needed it owns thread.

like some huge company cares about your shitty content you probably shot 11 years ago ROFL.

fris 06-05-2011 06:59 AM

he has always been anal about his content agreements, like if you bought a site from someone he would always try and milk the new owner cause he "didnt buy" from him, they needed a special agreement to take over the content.

Barefootsies 06-05-2011 07:03 AM

His license is no different than the majority of others I have seen in this industry.

Paul just makes a bigger stink about it.
:2 cents:

Internet User 06-05-2011 07:03 AM

the site would do better if P.M. content was removed from it entirely.

CurrentlySober 06-05-2011 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris (Post 18195484)
he has always been anal about his content agreements, like if you bought a site from someone he would always try and milk the new owner cause he "didnt buy" from him, they needed a special agreement to take over the content.

I remember one of the first times I came across PM on GFY...

Some guy had legitimately licsened some content for a certain site, but had 'lost' the URL. So, as the original one was no longer in his control, and now pointed to a parked page, he regged another similar one, and put his site back up.

Next thing you had PM all over the thread, saying he had to re-purchase the content again. The guy explained that he no longer owned the original URL, and that the original URL no longer displayed any of the content, and he just wanted to get back online with his new URL and get back to business...

Seemed fair to me - Content was only still be used once, on one site, by the same guy who had liscenced it... But Paul wouldn't let it go, and harassed the shit out of him with legal threats.

I made a mental note that if I ever purchased content, I would never go to PM...

fris 06-05-2011 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 18195493)
I remember one of the first times I came across PM on GFY...

Some guy had legitimately licsened some content for a certain site, but had 'lost' the URL. So, as the original one was no longer in his control, and now pointed to a parked page, he regged another similar one, and put his site back up.

Next thing you had PM all over the thread, saying he had to re-purchase the content again. The guy explained that he no longer owned the original URL, and that the original URL no longer displayed any of the content, and he just wanted to get back online with his new URL and get back to business...

Seemed fair to me - Content was only still be used once, on one site, by the same guy who had liscenced it... But Paul wouldn't let it go, and harassed the shit out of him with legal threats.

I made a mental note that if I ever purchased content, I would never go to PM...

plus his content is more stale than 3 month old milk

TubeKing 06-05-2011 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 18195493)
I remember one of the first times I came across PM on GFY...

Some guy had legitimately licsened some content for a certain site, but had 'lost' the URL. So, as the original one was no longer in his control, and now pointed to a parked page, he regged another similar one, and put his site back up.

Next thing you had PM all over the thread, saying he had to re-purchase the content again. The guy explained that he no longer owned the original URL, and that the original URL no longer displayed any of the content, and he just wanted to get back online with his new URL and get back to business...

Seemed fair to me - Content was only still be used once, on one site, by the same guy who had liscenced it... But Paul wouldn't let it go, and harassed the shit out of him with legal threats.

I made a mental note that if I ever purchased content, I would never go to PM...

He's old as fuck and probably has little to no new income coming in since his content is shitty so he needs every cent he can get his wrinkly hands on :1orglaugh

L-Pink 06-05-2011 07:14 AM

If Paul's license agreement is to restricting customers should look elsewhere for content. If it does however restrict usage to the original licensee then he has a right to enforce that restriction. Pretty cut and dry issue.

TubeKing 06-05-2011 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18195505)
If Paul's license agreement is to restricting customers should look elsewhere for content. If it does however restrict usage to the original licensee then he has a right to enforce that restriction. Pretty cut and dry issue.

This thread isn't about his dated content or license, it's more about the fact he thought it so important to bring up in Shap's sale thread :1orglaugh

L-Pink 06-05-2011 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TubeKing (Post 18195508)
This thread isn't about his dated content or license, it's more about the fact he thought it so important to bring up in Shap's sale thread :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh My bad, If this is a lack of class thread then count me in. That was pretty cheesy of him.

ArsewithClass 06-05-2011 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by TubeKing (Post 18195473)
https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18190763&postcount=366

this gem needed it owns thread.

like some huge company cares about your shitty content you probably shot 11 years ago ROFL.

TubeKing, a little harsh I think :(

Any company, big or small, should care about licensed content :2 cents:

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18195505)
If Paul's license agreement is to restricting customers should look elsewhere for content. If it does however restrict usage to the original licensee then he has a right to enforce that restriction. Pretty cut and dry issue.

Thats what I thought... :2 cents:

2intense 06-05-2011 09:38 AM

:Oh crap:Oh crap

Agent 488 06-05-2011 09:40 AM

congrats shap on the retirement.

CurrentlySober 06-05-2011 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 18195702)
congrats shap on the retirement.

Contrats 2intense on the bot...

Rochard 06-05-2011 10:19 AM

Paul is a fucking idiot. Shap didn't own the license, his company did. Shap sold the company. Thus, everything that the company owned - the sites, the domains, any content licenses - passed on to a new owner. The owner changed, nothing else. And license or agreement or contract Shap signed passes on to the new owner.

Internet User 06-05-2011 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18195757)
Paul is a fucking idiot. Shap didn't own the license, his company did. Shap sold the company. Thus, everything that the company owned - the sites, the domains, any content licenses - passed on to a new owner. The owner changed, nothing else. And license or agreement or contract Shap signed passes on to the new owner.

http://www.dangerousminds.net/images...419_thumb.jpeg

k0nr4d 06-05-2011 11:14 AM

I think this more depends on if manwin bought twisties the corporation or twisties the sites. If they bought the company itself then the corp twisties that bought the licenses is still the one running and owning it.

iSpyCams 06-05-2011 11:35 AM

Yea I am pretty sure there would be a lot less acquisitions going on if the acquirer had to buy all the damn licenses again.

GatorB 06-05-2011 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18195505)
If Paul's license agreement is to restricting customers should look elsewhere for content. If it does however restrict usage to the original licensee then he has a right to enforce that restriction. Pretty cut and dry issue.

Just because one has the right to be a douche doesn't me on SHOULD be a douche. I'm just saying.

19teenporn 06-05-2011 12:36 PM

What an asshole

ArsewithClass 06-05-2011 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18195757)
Paul is a fucking idiot. Shap didn't own the license, his company did. Shap sold the company. Thus, everything that the company owned - the sites, the domains, any content licenses - passed on to a new owner. The owner changed, nothing else. And license or agreement or contract Shap signed passes on to the new owner.

It depends on the small print, but more than likely, a license can be sold on along with the sites. :2 cents:

No need to call Paul an idiot :( sometimes assuming can make only the one assuming act like an idiot :2 cents:

Jakez 06-05-2011 01:32 PM

lol I bought some content from him a while ago but never used it. I would post it here for free if I could find it.

DWB 06-05-2011 02:16 PM

I'd be interested in knowing which of you who are busting his balls for licensing actually own any content yourselves. If you did, or did so in a professional manner and made a living at it, you probably wouldn't be saying anything.

There is a license for a reason and it has to be followed to the terms stated on it.

DWB 06-05-2011 02:27 PM

And... none of us have seen the license or the exact deal between Manwin and Twistys. If Paul claims it needs to be updated, I can only assume he would know and Manwin will deal with it accordingly.

ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-05-2011 02:29 PM

His content, his license, his agreement that the buyer agreed to when licensing.
If there is a non transfer clause...

Pay the man.

Agent 488 06-05-2011 02:30 PM

people are busting paul's balls because he is as tactless, tone-deaf and self-centered as usual, trying to haggle a deal in a farewell and thank you thread.

no one gives a fuck about the minutiae of a licensing deal.

lagcam 06-05-2011 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18196129)
And... none of us have seen the license or the exact deal between Manwin and Twistys. If Paul claims it needs to be updated, I can only assume he would know and Manwin will deal with it accordingly.

I think the point here is the time and place and manner that the subject was brought up, not that the license is unfair in any way.

AnimeFevers 06-05-2011 05:39 PM

Damn we got some harsh bastards on GFY :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

merina0803 06-05-2011 06:03 PM

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Mike Honcho 06-05-2011 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Internet User (Post 18195776)

legit lol

DWB 06-06-2011 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lagcam (Post 18196337)
I think the point here is the time and place and manner that the subject was brought up, not that the license is unfair in any way.

Can't argue that.

DamianJ 06-06-2011 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 18195493)
I made a mental note that if I ever purchased content, I would never go to PM...

I'd never buy anything from someone who admits, and I quote "my content isn't good enough anymore".

DamianJ 06-06-2011 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass (Post 18195516)
TubeKing, a little harsh I think :(

Any company, big or small, should care about licensed content :2 cents:



Thats what I thought... :2 cents:

I fucking just *love* how you are acting as Paul's little fanclub during his Hiding Period.

Very funny.

It's like a retarded spastic kitten who shits himself following around someone looking for love.

prezzz 06-06-2011 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 18195826)
I think this more depends on if manwin bought twisties the corporation or twisties the sites. If they bought the company itself then the corp twisties that bought the licenses is still the one running and owning it.

My thoughts exactly. As long as the actual licensee doesn't change, the license should be left intact. Otherwise, whenever a corporation would be the licensee, would the license go invalid whenever its shareholders change?

ottopottomouse 06-06-2011 04:12 AM

Must be a difficult jigsaw this week for him to stay away.

ArsewithClass 06-06-2011 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 18196962)
Must be a difficult jigsaw this week for him to stay away.

Maybe he just has more dignity that some of the morons here... ( thats not @ you otto )

I cant be bothered to answer some posts directed towards me. Its tit for tat, bullshit lies, just going on & on, its boring & tedious :2 cents:

Ive just had a huge delivery of timber & building products, got it all in the shop, so now got more on my mind, like construction, than bickering over whether I had a mullet or not :1orglaugh I never have btw :helpme

DamianJ 06-06-2011 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ArsewithClass (Post 18196972)
Maybe he just has more dignity

I think you're confusing 'dignity' with 'cowardice'. Easy mistake to make, seeing as you left school aged 12 to clean chim chimineys.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass (Post 18196972)
I cant be bothered to answer some posts directed towards me.

Or, you know I just make you look even more like an idiot the more you carry on?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass (Post 18196972)
Its tit for tat, bullshit lies, just going on & on, its boring & tedious :2 cents:

Stop lying then. Easy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass (Post 18196972)
Ive just had a huge delivery of timber & building products, got it all in the shop, so now got more on my mind, like construction,

Yeah. You are an AWESOME business man. Lie about the council letting you set up a cam studio, then buy some timber, build it yourself, at a cost of 20k (lol) before you even HAVE A FUCKING CLUE about a) what a cam studio does b) how to sell cam girls c) where to get traffic for cams d) which software you need.

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Originally Posted by ArsewithClass (Post 18196972)
than bickering over whether I had a mullet or not :1orglaugh I never have btw :helpme

More lies. There are PICTURES of you with a fucking mullet. As I've said before, if you're going to lie, and it seems you can't help it, at least make it a believable lie.


https://img.skitch.com/20110606-1cjm...a2tbk3r128.jpg


LOLLINGTON LOL. Lying pikey.

ottopottomouse 06-06-2011 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass (Post 18196972)
Ive just had a huge delivery of timber & building products, got it all in the shop, so now got more on my mind, like construction, than bickering over whether I had a mullet or not :1orglaugh I never have btw :helpme

Been pissing with rain here for the last 24 hours, not really building weather compared to last weeks sunshine.

DamianJ 06-06-2011 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 18196987)
Been pissing with rain here for the last 24 hours, not really building weather compared to last weeks sunshine.

I've seen the blueprint for his studio.

Rain isn't a prob when the council approve a tarp like this!

http://i948.photobucket.com/albums/a...2/5cc20ac1.jpg

ArsewithClass 06-06-2011 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 18196987)
Been pissing with rain here for the last 24 hours, not really building weather compared to last weeks sunshine.

The suns due back out this week :thumbsup

To be honest, with all this going on, I havent had much time for the sun this year :(


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