Important .XXX News / YNOT SUMMIT San Francisco
 

SAN FRANCISCO (June 17, 2011) ? Despite the upheaval of the past few years, major changes in the adult entertainment industry don?t occur all that often. The most recent truly seismic shift was the emergence of the World Wide Web as a dominant distribution channel. As the adult industry continues to mature along with the internet, new opportunities arise to challenge even the most stalwart porn purveyors. The newest provokes both curses and praise among the faithful: Dot-xxx. It?s real. It?s unavoidable. It?ll be a game-changer.

Don?t settle for misinformation, half-truths and suspicion. Be informed.

No matter where you fall on the vast spectrum of opinions about ICANN?s latest Top Level Domain, you owe it to yourself and your business to get the facts. Should you buy a dot-xxx domain? What could happen to your brand if you don?t? Are there as-yet-unrevealed benefits to dot-xxx ownership? Liabilities? How much will the darn things cost, anyway? And what?s all this hullaballoo about ?responsible business practices??

On Saturday, June 25, from 1 p.m. until no questions remain, YNOT Summit will present a very special up-close-and-personal look at dot-xxx. Far from the run-of-the-mill panel discussion trade show attendees have endured ad nauseum since 2005, ?Pros and Cons of Dot-xxx? will blend rational discussion with audience participation, allowing attendees to pose their most pressing questions directly to some of the new domain space?s most ardent champions ? and some of its biggest skeptics. Moderator M.Christian will preside over a balanced consideration of both sides, including some surprising revelations. Scheduled participants include YNOT Group LLC President Connor Young, veteran industry journalist and AVN Senior Editor Tom Hymes, attorney Eric M. Bernstein and ICM Registry Sales Director Vaughn Liley. Audience participation is strongly encouraged.

?A lot of people are trying to decide what dot-xxx means for their business,? Young said. ?This presentation will give everyone the details they need to make an informed decision, whichever way they decide to go. The expert panel is diverse, and we?ve all agreed to limit the amount of bloodletting on the stage to a minimum.?

Added Liley, ?With the launch of the registry less than 80 days away, I look forward to informing community members of the benefits of dot-xxx names and how and when to apply for them.?

Launched in 1997 as Cybernet Expo, YNOT Summit is the longest-running adult industry gathering designed to address the specific needs of online adult entertainment professionals. Set to take place June 23-25 at the Golden Gateway Hotel in San Francisco, the 15th annual event includes education, networking, technology demonstrations, hands-on workshops and parties in a casual, high-energy atmosphere. More information is available at http://www.ynotsummit.com, a downloadable show guide is available here: http://www.ynotsummit.com/ynotsummit-2011-guide.pdf, and the online registration interface is here: http://www.ynotsummit.com/registration.htm

YNOT Summit sponsors include EPG Bill, HotMovies.com, MojoHost, Streamate, FTVCash, CherryPimps, DatingGold, Pink Visual, PornConversions, Asian Diva Girls, Kink.com, Red Light Center, JuicyAds, NETbilling, Stockroom.com, 2000Charge and Eric M. Bernstein & Associates LLC.

For information about sponsorship and exhibiting opportunities, email [email protected] or contact ICQ 92418228.

See you there:thumbsup

This sounds like something ESPECIALLY worth attending (and, keep in mind the great history and reputation YNOT has for meaningful shows that provide top-notch seminars, and business-related opportunity to network!!!

This announcement may have trouble competing with "what do you think of my new model" threads on a weekend, so I'll bump it...

Sounds like a good discussion, I'll try to make it.

It's funny that I keep hearing from the pro xxx people about the pros, yet have yet to hear any. I've read the press, one that's catering to the public, the public that have no idea whats going on. If pressed by industry people, I wonder if they can actually come up with any benefits other that their bank account.

From the ICM Registry
Lets see, is it "WE" or just the ICM registry?
Didn't the Nazis do the same thing? Categorizing business and treating them differently from other business is illegal, unless you like being treated differently
There are already filters in place, most business's have filters in place and are available to consumers. Google has a safe search feature and if thats important, they can build a new browser that doesn't accept porn sites.
Nice, more regulations, we always love those. And this professional run outfit, how much is this going to cost the community, a lot of programs have gone in the toilet and they now want to charge us more to run a business. Guess the little guy will just have to deal with selling google ad space now?

There's that word again "regulators"! Greater retention? Wait, do you think that the ICM registry knows more about retention that the business knows? Seriously?
Google safe search is free, warning pages do the same thing. Anyone that lets their kids on the net should be responsible about it, making the Internet baby safe is a joke!
All controlled by the ICM registry of course for a fee?

This is an out and out lie, I saw the latest poll on XBiz and it didn't say the industry wanted anything to do with this.


These are just my opinions, please tell me if I'm wrong. I wonder about the guys with hundreds of thousands spent on back linking, domains, SEO and advertising that the people of ICM registry want to bury.

And if there are true benefits of the XXX for our business, then why have they not told us? They hired one guy that started a thread on Xbiz and couldn't give any.

So I'll be there, I will speak up

There's no benefits to joining .XXX. Whats the point to paying more fee's, more rules, and probably having to split profits with them down the road, while your stuck doing all the work.

The old school and big companies that signed up with .XXX support it because it will get rid of the rest of us. They hate that anyone can compete with them on a level playing field. .XXX will remedy all that.

But YNOT summit says "from 1 p.m. until no questions remain regarding .XXX". Hopefully some good information can be revealed. Like whats IFFOR doing in DC if this is a voluntary system?
Whats the rules gonna be regarding content production? Will we really have to use your credit processor when our current one charges less than double? Will big tube players be allowed to set up shop on this new extension?

Hopefully many questions will be asked and we wont get water downed double talk answers.
Wondering if there will be more people from ICM other than Sales Director Vaughn Liley. Cause thats kinda that whole point, asking ICM directly about their future rules.

Any chance the seminar will be recorded and available at YNOT for those who couldn't attend?

Well said Brett...

what Vendzilla said, and heh just think about it very carefully.

I decided that this show is too important too miss... so I am flying up.

I will be available for meetings regarding trafficshop, the event I will be announcing tomorrow, and another big surprise which will be announced tomorrow.

3.0 baby!

Wow words of wisdom from JHC... who would have known.

I personally will not speak about ICM, .XXX or anything to do with it except in private 1 on 1 conversations with a few people that can be trusted.

I look forward to this event. Connor and Jay should be comended for their determination and longevity.

YNOT was my 1st show.

wow

Hey LAJ!

Ynot rules.

Yup... Baddog, and possibly ADG will both be filming it.

Sweeeeet, LAJ!

Bump for YNOT jay and connor!

To me that argument has been around since day one of the internet. It used to be a whole lot worse. For a while you almost couldn't search for anything without some kind of porn showing up because people would keyword stuff their pages with all kinds of crazy stuff.

Thinking that Joe the average guy is going to be searching for something in Google, accidentally come across a porn pic and start a campaign to get all porn moved to .xxx to me is just fear mongering. They have made laws already that state if you are knowingly misleading people to porn with the name of your site/domain you could go down for it. It isn't your fault if Google fucks up and puts a pic of interracial anal in their image search for something not-related to that.

To me this is the perfect moment for this industry to do what it always complains about. Everyone says we need to band together and form a lobby and stand as one etc, but it never happens. Here we have the perfect chance. If nobody buys a .xxx domain it will either just go away, or ICM will put them all up live with holding pages, but since nobody is actively promoting them there will be no traffic and they will be of no value. Right now we could all just turn our backs on it and show that the industry really doesn't support it and we won't use it. The odds of a law actually being passed and surviving any challenges that forced us to use it are so slim they aren't worth worrying about and if it were to happen, .xxx will still be there then to buy.

But, of course, we won't do that. This industry is always in a race to the bottom so somebody at that conference will say something about .xxx being an insurance policy then there will be some news about someone using one or selling one for a big profit and before you know it everyone will be buying them. That is what this industry does. We have never seen a cliff that we couldn't wait to jump off of.

Sorry for the rant :)

Looking forward to seeing all of you on Saturday!!

Or... the responsible parent would have his safe search on so he/she doesn't accidentally expose his child to such things.

That's what it's there for. :2 cents:

Y'know I suggested to stu and greg to use a different tag line ... instead of "Lets Be Adult About IT!" I prefer.....

"We're Here, we're queer, GET USED TO IT!!"

I think it works better, thought?????

These guys are not "bad" guys, they are just really fucking smart entrepenuer that worked real fucking hard for 10 years to get an idea passed. amazingly iut passed and will be implemented in 80 days...


I dont need to go to the seminar to tell you that eventually everyone will join the .XXX club one way or another..... its inevitible. I have been saying this all along, but NOBODY listens to me..... anyway see you in SF bitches (i like bitches).

So true...

Hey, I'm not seeing a couple of you on the registration list... better get on it!

Some drug dealer flushed his drugs down the toilet, this prevented the Police from busting him for the drugs, so to make things simpler for the police, the supreme court threw out the 4th amendment.
http://blogs.forbes.com/rickungar/20...thout-warrant/

Protecting the eyes of children that have shit for brains parents that can't teach their own kids how to surf safely, I taught my kid, is just an excuse to push all porn in a nice little box, so they only have to flip one switch to turn it off.

Yes they'll always be followers that are gullible in life. So best thing for indecisive people is to first let the idiots waste their money on .XXX domains. After a good amount of time, you'l be hearing that companies are not making that big money the reps promised. Let the fools be the guinea pigs first. And dont go by one or two bias success stories, go by the majorities progress.

If one wants .XXX insurance policy then just get a trademark. The price is almost equivalent to a .XXX domain so its a win win in the long run.

FUCK . xXX

To me the minute you allow yourself to be censored - and in my eyes switching to using .xxx is just that - you then open yourself up for further regulation.

As it sits now the Supreme Court has ruled that existing filtering software is adequate to provide protection from adult sites for those who want it. That is why the COPA law forcing age verification failed. So if a law were passed that wanted to force us to use .xxx it would have to make a pretty compelling argument that somehow .xxx is providing a service that this filtering software can't/doesn't. However, if we willing switch to .xxx then those same lawmakers could make the argument to the court that we as an industry agree that there needs to be regulation and it could make it easier to force us to use .xxx.

As soon as that ball starts rolling it would be easier for them to attach a clause to the law that said all cable companies must block .xxx at the ISP level by default and if any customer wants access to those sites they can simply contact the ISP and opt-in. They know that many people will be too embarrassed to do so and we could see our traffic go way down.

Of course all of this would only effect US bound sites so it could put US based webmasters out of business while those in other countries continued on with business as usual on .coms.

All of what I am saying here is mere speculation, but to me the minute you offer up some of your freedom to be taken away, those who would love to take more will jump at the chance and they will see your offer as an indication that you agree with them and are willing to go along. If it is a 10 step process to force us to use .xxx, block us at the ISP level and make customers opt-in, each of those 10 steps will be a hard fought battle. There is not reason to give them a few of them free by volunteering to use .xxx.

Great post! :thumbsup:thumbsup

I wish I was going to be there to see it. Be sure to record and stream it please.

+1 dan is a rockstar / only xxxjay can out rockstar this guy....

Got it covered.

Please explain how a new mandatory TLD is going to prevent little Bobby from seeing inter-racial anal sex in an image search.

You are a fucking moron, just shut the fuck up and let the non-cokeheads talk, ok?

:2 cents::2 cents:

Sure, anything could happen. To me if they passed some kind of local "ban" on any porn that is not on a .xxx that would be a free speech issue. since porn is protected free speech likely the national law would overrule the local law. More likely they would start going heavily after porn as obscenity on a local level, but those can be very expensive trials for a community to win and I think most communities, conservative or not, would not be happy to see their local reps spending all their tax dollars trying to jail porn site owners instead of doing things that actually help their community.

But as you said, anything could happen and if someone with deep pockets wanted to take this route they surly could. It would be a long term investment with no real guarantee of paying off in the end, but it could work.

I personally don't own any .coms that are so big and fantastic that I would really worry about buying the .xxx version. If the day came several years down the road that .xxx became mandatory I would go buy those domains I could and just redirect my sites

To me all of the "this could" or "this might" is nothing more more than propaganda that is born to help encourage people buy what they are selling. It is like selling fallout bunkers to people. They talk people into spending thousands of dollars for a shelter just in case the shit hits the fan. Never mind that you might not be able to make it to the shelter in time for it to be of use or that you may only have a enough food to last a few weeks or months and will likely die anyway, buying it makes them feel better about the "what if."

LAJ, cancel the .XXX discussion.

It's irrelevant after today when anything can now be a TLD
.porn , .sex , .LAJ .lol :1orglaugh

They fucked up spending all that time and money on .XXX Let it die.