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CyberHustler 06-26-2011 06:14 AM

Are you religious?
 
If so, why and what religion? What brought you into it?

If not, why not?

I grew up catholic, turned agnostic at about 16 years old and stayed that way. It just seemed easier to not care.

candyflip 06-26-2011 06:22 AM

Pretty much the same story here. I might have rebelled a bit sooner, like around 12, as I was forced to go to Catholic school.

martinsc 06-26-2011 06:25 AM

no. I find it hard to believe in any kind of god....

CaptainHowdy 06-26-2011 06:29 AM

I haven't seen (or read) anyone on GFY that doesn't have a religious attitude ...

V_RocKs 06-26-2011 06:54 AM

I am morally compassed.

Redrob 06-26-2011 07:19 AM

Joseph Campbell made the following observation:

He asked do you know what a metaphor is?

Ex 1: John fights like a bear. (No, it is a simile)

Ex 2: John is a bear. (Yes, it is a metaphor)


He then observed that God is a metaphor for the great unknown mysteries of life: our purpose, our afterlife, our beginning, etc., and the metaphor predates modern science.

He then realized that there were basically two types of people:

Type 1: Those who accept the metaphor as fact, ie. "absolute truth". They are the religious believers.

and,

Type 2: Those who accept the metaphor as a metaphor. They are the agnostics who believe that any ultimate reality is unknown and probably unknowable.

If you are a Type 1, no scientific facts will ever change your mind as your beliefs are not founded in reality; but, belief in the reality of a metaphor.

At least I get to enjoy my Sundays off from work.:2 cents:

Babaganoosh 06-26-2011 07:28 AM

I don't believe in God because there is no evidence in any kind of supreme being. Show me proof and I will change my opinions. Any organization which worships a supreme being without having a shred of evidence supporting the existence of said being is completely crazy.

The concept of "faith" that all churches promote tells you that it's a valuable trait to keep your head in the sand and always believe despite overwhelming evidence that the bible is complete trash. To me, that's disgusting.

barcodes 06-26-2011 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 18240890)
I don't believe in God because there is no evidence in any kind of supreme being. Show me proof and I will change my opinions. Any organization which worships a supreme being without having a shred of evidence supporting the existence of said being is completely crazy.

The concept of "faith" that all churches promote tells you that it's a valuable trait to keep your head in the sand and always believe despite overwhelming evidence that the bible is complete trash. To me, that's disgusting.


Grapesoda 06-26-2011 07:33 AM

faith: whether you think you can, or think you can't, you're probably right.

Chosen 06-26-2011 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 18240890)
I don't believe in God because there is no evidence in any kind of supreme being. Show me proof and I will change my opinions. Any organization which worships a supreme being without having a shred of evidence supporting the existence of said being is completely crazy.

The concept of "faith" that all churches promote tells you that it's a valuable trait to keep your head in the sand and always believe despite overwhelming evidence that the bible is complete trash. To me, that's disgusting.

Being religious and believe in God is not the same thing :pimp

The Demon 06-26-2011 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 18240890)
I don't believe in God because there is no evidence in any kind of supreme being. Show me proof and I will change my opinions. Any organization which worships a supreme being without having a shred of evidence supporting the existence of said being is completely crazy.

If there was solid evidence of a supreme being, then it wouldn't be called "Religion". The concept of religion is mostly faith based so your post doesn't make any sense.

Quote:

The concept of "faith" that all churches promote tells you that it's a valuable trait to keep your head in the sand and always believe despite overwhelming evidence that the bible is complete trash. To me, that's disgusting.
Faith has been around before churches rofl. Also, is that any more disgusting than humans trying to rationalize every retarded decision by calling it "relative"? Not sure how you can argue that faith is disgusting but leave that one open rofl. Also, LOL@overwhelming evidence that the bible is absolute trash. I'm not sure you understand what constitutes as "evidence". I advice you to think next time rather than letting your retarded prejudices get in the way.:thumbsup

Quote:

Being religious and believe in God is not the same thing
It could be. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

SallyRand 06-26-2011 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Dedi (Post 18240784)
If so, why and what religion? What brought you into it?

If not, why not?

I grew up catholic, turned agnostic at about 16 years old and stayed that way. It just seemed easier to not care.

No.

Religion is a mental illness.

GAMEFINEST 06-26-2011 07:40 AM

Not really im atheist

The Demon 06-26-2011 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SallyRand (Post 18240906)
No.

Religion is a mental illness.

So is the rationalization of relativism. Here, it's simple to end this discussion instead of watching everyone here rationalize to feel better about themselves.

Religious people that try to prove to the nonreligious that God exists, are morons.

Secularists and atheists that try to prove God doesn't exist, are morons.

Problem solved.:1orglaugh

Fabien 06-26-2011 07:42 AM

Well if you believe, you then have to believe in Santa Clause, the tooth fairy etc... Without saying a fucking word !

Each religion is 100% sure they are THE ONE with the right stuff.

So pathetic.

The Demon 06-26-2011 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fabien (Post 18240913)
Well if you believe, you then have to believe in Santa Clause, the tooth fairy etc... Without saying a fucking word !

Each religion is 100% sure they are THE ONE with the right stuff.

So pathetic.

Not really sure why if you subscribe to the belief of a supreme being, you have to believe in Santa Clause, which has actually been proven to be a story, by the creators. What's more pathetic is the rationalization about each religion, while also validating your life with relativism. Looking for a logical argument:)

Grapesoda 06-26-2011 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 18240905)
The concept of religion

the concept of religion is to define 'G_D' by a set of rules and regulations so as to control the populace by their sexual drives. $.02

Grapesoda 06-26-2011 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fabien (Post 18240913)
Well if you believe, you then have to believe in Santa Clause, the tooth fairy etc... Without saying a fucking word !

Each religion is 100% sure they are THE ONE with the right stuff.

So pathetic.

:( do I have to give the presents back then?

The Demon 06-26-2011 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 18240925)
the concept of religion is to define 'G_D' by a set of rules and regulations so as to control the populace by their sexual drives. $.02

The concept of relativism is to claim there is no right and wrong, everything is relative, and therefore do whatever your heart desires under that banner. One of these definitions is true, one of them doesn't actually exist but serves as a valid rationalization against religion.

Grapesoda 06-26-2011 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 18240929)
The concept of relativism is to claim there is no right and wrong, everything is relative, and therefore do whatever your heart desires under that banner. One of these definitions is true, one of them doesn't actually exist but serves as a valid rationalization against religion.

Aleister Crowley: do what thou whilst is the whole of the law

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SallyRand 06-26-2011 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 18240925)
the concept of religion is to define 'G_D' by a set of rules and regulations so as to control the populace by their sexual drives. $.02

"G_D"?

Now there is some primitive Bronze Age bullshit.

Fabien 06-26-2011 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 18240918)
Not really sure why if you subscribe to the belief of a supreme being, you have to believe in Santa Clause, which has actually been proven to be a story, by the creators. What's more pathetic is the rationalization about each religion, while also validating your life with relativism. Looking for a logical argument:)


The point is, why should we believe in (let's say) the Christian version of the thingo while deny the Santa Clause one ? Who can confirm what's right or not ?
No one, so every theory is right then.

pornmasta 06-26-2011 08:21 AM

I can't afford to be religious.
Time to work...

Fabien 06-26-2011 08:21 AM

Also, God/religion is men worst enemy. Don't take my word for it, just check out the stats ! It's the number one killer of all time. PERIOD

Grapesoda 06-26-2011 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SallyRand (Post 18240954)
"G_D"?

Now there is some primitive Bronze Age bullshit.

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MediumPimpin 06-26-2011 08:27 AM

Fuck The Pope!

Babaganoosh 06-26-2011 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 18240905)
If there was solid evidence of a supreme being, then it wouldn't be called "Religion". The concept of religion is mostly faith based so your post doesn't make any sense.



Faith has been around before churches rofl. Also, is that any more disgusting than humans trying to rationalize every retarded decision by calling it "relative"? Not sure how you can argue that faith is disgusting but leave that one open rofl. Also, LOL@overwhelming evidence that the bible is absolute trash. I'm not sure you understand what constitutes as "evidence". I advice you to think next time rather than letting your retarded prejudices get in the way.:thumbsup


It could be. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

You almost always argue semantics. That's a sure sign of someone who is talking out of his ass. Now hush, son. The grown ups are trying to talk.

Fabien 06-26-2011 08:35 AM

You know what's funny about the pop, 2 minutes before he got elected, no one knew shit about him ! They couldn't say his name nor recognize him in the street ! The second after, everybody's in trance, going nuts when seeing him hahahahahaha. Like if the jackass, (sorry the chosen one), have a cell phone/red phone with god now hahahahahaha
He is now in control of the hotline. NEAT !

grumpy 06-26-2011 08:41 AM

in 2011, dont think so

wig 06-26-2011 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 18240929)
The concept of relativism is to claim there is no right and wrong, everything is relative, and therefore do whatever your heart desires under that banner. One of these definitions is true, one of them doesn't actually exist but serves as a valid rationalization against religion.

Relativism, relativism, relativism... no matter how many times you say it you're still left with your sacred text in which your God permits slavery, the stoning of adulterers and homosexuals, and plenty of other moral atrocities.

Luckily, even most religious people have moved on from this stupidity.

There's not a single person here who could not improve upon your religions 10 commandments. :2 cents:

Of course, there are other arguments depending how one defines god. And there is plenty of evidence to illustrate that the Biblical writers engaged in blatant fabrications.

I think some courses on Hebrew/Biblical history and moral philosophy would do you some good.


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Grapesoda 06-26-2011 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wig (Post 18241023)
Relativism, relativism, relativism... no matter how many times you say it you're still left with your sacred text in which your God permits slavery, the stoning of adulterers and homosexuals, and plenty of other moral atrocities.

Luckily, even most religious people have moved on from this stupidity.

There's not a single person here who could not improve upon your religions 10 commandments. :2 cents:

Of course, there are other arguments depending how one defines god. And there is plenty of evidence to illustrate that the Biblical writers engaged in blatant fabrications.

I think some courses on Hebrew/Biblical history and moral philosophy would do you some good.


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hummm.... seven commandment's...10 for Jews and just 7 for gentiles

AtlantisCash 06-26-2011 09:15 AM

i m a deist, believing GOD, but not to an organized religion.

i razed as a muslim and i was one until almost 1 and half year ago (i m not sure what was the exact time).

when i read the Koran in the languages that i understand English/Turkish, i realized that it was nothing, but just a book that's written/made up by Mohammed himself.

he might be a schizophrenic man or a pragmatist who could make the sheeps follow behind him.

i don't know what was the reality, but there is something i know that we had enough with this all religions, races and what ever you name it :2 cents:

B.Barnato 06-26-2011 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 18240890)
I don't believe in God because there is no evidence in any kind of supreme being. Show me proof and I will change my opinions. Any organization which worships a supreme being without having a shred of evidence supporting the existence of said being is completely crazy.


The Bible is full of proof of God. Not only does it tell us about how we came to exist but also what God expects from us and what he has envisaged for us.

How can you need any more proof than God's word itself?

CyberHustler 06-26-2011 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B.Barnato (Post 18241080)
The Bible is full of proof of God. Not only does it tell us about how we came to exist but also what God expects from us and what he has envisaged for us.

How can you need any more proof than God's word itself?

http://i51.tinypic.com/ej5v1c.jpg

AtlantisCash 06-26-2011 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B.Barnato (Post 18241080)
The Bible is full of proof of God. Not only does it tell us about how we came to exist but also what God expects from us and what he has envisaged for us.

How can you need any more proof than God's word itself?




Hopefully this was a joke.

Let's say i m a pastafarian, i even made a book and i claim it's the GOD's (flying spagetti monster's) word, how do i know flying spagetti monsters exist? because the book filled with his words.

How's that?

Did i prove you Spagetti that monster exists? :2 cents:

Nicky 06-26-2011 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B.Barnato (Post 18241080)
The Bible is full of proof of God. Not only does it tell us about how we came to exist but also what God expects from us and what he has envisaged for us.

How can you need any more proof than God's word itself?

:1orglaugh

u-Bob 06-26-2011 09:58 AM

Do I believe in God, a god, gods,.. ? No, I don't.

Do I deny the existence of 'a supreme being'? No, I don't. Right now I have no reason to assume such a thing exists. However this does not mean I deny it (can) exists.
I have not yet seen any evidence or proof (be it empirical or axiomatic-deductive) or even any indication to assume such a thing, that religious people call God, exists.
I also have not yet looked for any evidence or proof of the existence of such a being.
And I have no inclination to look for any evidence or proof of the existence of such a being.
I simply don't care.

Am I anti-religion? No, I am not. Anything that may inspire people to do good, help others, lead a 'virtues' life,... has value imo.
However, I am aware of the fact that organized religion can and in the past has been abused by people with bad intentions. But this does not make me anti-religion. The fact that religious movements or organizations can be abused is not something that results from religion itself but from human individuals who decide to ignore their personal responsibilities and decide to follow a leader (any leader) or organization without respecting other people's fundamental (property) rights.

wig 06-26-2011 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B.Barnato (Post 18241080)
The Bible is full of proof of God. Not only does it tell us about how we came to exist but also what God expects from us and what he has envisaged for us.

How can you need any more proof than God's word itself?



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CurrentlySober 06-26-2011 10:03 AM

I like to think of myself as spiritual. But NOT religious...

adultforum 06-26-2011 10:21 AM

Im religious. I believe in God and in My Guardian Angel, the one who brings me lot of sales on cam sites :)

CurrentlySober 06-26-2011 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 18241123)
I like to think of myself as spiritual. But NOT religious...

Sorry, I didn't explain myself. By Spiritual, I really mean 'Full of Spirits' - Usually Vodka - Sometimes Gin.

Hope thats clearer

u-Bob 06-26-2011 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 18241159)
By Spiritual, I really mean 'Full of Spirits'

as opposed to "Full of shit"? :)

CurrentlySober 06-26-2011 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 18241164)
as opposed to "Full of shit"? :)

i like being full of shit...

moeloubani 06-26-2011 10:38 AM

I am a devout Jew like sperbonzo

nikki99 06-26-2011 10:43 AM

yes I was for many years since my childhood till I was Robbed this year in my condo, that was an act of God?

martinsc 06-26-2011 10:44 AM

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/me...Dinossaurs.jpg

B.Barnato 06-26-2011 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AtlantisCash (Post 18241104)
Hopefully this was a joke.

Let's say i m a pastafarian, i even made a book and i claim it's the GOD's (flying spagetti monster's) word, how do i know flying spagetti monsters exist? because the book filled with his words.

How's that?

Did i prove you Spagetti that monster exists? :2 cents:


Not sure why it is supposed to be a joke.

There is so much proof that the Bible is God's word it is mind blowing.

All the prophecies that came true, all the knowledge that was passed on and came to be true even in our lifetime.

How can such a book of wisdom survive such a long period of time and be passed along to us without God's protection?

If anyone bases their outlook on God upon scientific reasoning they are simpletons.

Science, like any other industry must show results to gain funding, be it in the private or public sector. Once a layer of science is accepted as fact it is easy to base future claims on this layer without questioning the truth.

lol we don't even know if there is or if there is no global warming, how does anyone want to tell me we came from mud with any amount of certainty...

pornmasta 06-26-2011 11:02 AM

Ok god exists:
Which one ?

LongBucksVip 06-26-2011 11:37 AM

I am atheist :)
But if I were religious, I'd choose buddhism :)))

CurrentlySober 06-26-2011 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redrob (Post 18240874)
Joseph Campbell made the following observation:

He asked do you know what a metaphor is?

Ex 1: John fights like a bear. (No, it is a simile)

Ex 2: John is a bear. (Yes, it is a metaphor)


He then observed that God is a metaphor for the great unknown mysteries of life: our purpose, our afterlife, our beginning, etc., and the metaphor predates modern science.

He then realized that there were basically two types of people:

Type 1: Those who accept the metaphor as fact, ie. "absolute truth". They are the religious believers.

and,

Type 2: Those who accept the metaphor as a metaphor. They are the agnostics who believe that any ultimate reality is unknown and probably unknowable.

If you are a Type 1, no scientific facts will ever change your mind as your beliefs are not founded in reality; but, belief in the reality of a metaphor.

At least I get to enjoy my Sundays off from work.:2 cents:

QFT: Brilliant post...


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