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Caligari 07-05-2011 09:17 AM

Manwin Demands ICM Prevent .XXX Exploitation
 
from xbiz news-
"Manwin, one of the largest players in the online adult arena, has demanded that ICM Registry block attempts to register any of its 57 domain names or similar misleading names in the .XXX sponsored top-level domain."
http://www.xbiz.com/news/135927

Future's so bright I gotta wear shades;)

spazlabz 07-05-2011 09:21 AM

I just read that article, looks like an interesting development, I wonder how it will play out

alias 07-05-2011 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 18261519)
from xbiz news-
"Manwin, one of the largest players in the online adult arena, has demanded that ICM Registry block attempts to register any of its 57 domain names or similar misleading names in the .XXX sponsored top-level domain."
http://www.xbiz.com/news/135927

Future's so bright I gotta wear shades;)

Saw that.
http://alientrollscience.com/intredasting.jpg

Caligari 07-05-2011 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spazlabz (Post 18261529)
I just read that article, looks like an interesting development, I wonder how it will play out

Whatever one thinks of Manwin they definitely have the $$ to really fuck with .XXX which is good.
Kind of like Jason Vs. Freddy;)

MaDalton 07-05-2011 09:32 AM

c'mon... 57 domains and let's say 4 variations each - that makes about 300 domains in total - it's only $90,000 to block them forever. Manwin can't afford that? :winkwink:

JamesGw 07-05-2011 09:47 AM

Shit's about to get real.

BareBacked 07-05-2011 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 18261519)
from xbiz news-
"Manwin, one of the largest players in the online adult arena, has demanded that ICM Registry block attempts to register any of its 57 domain names or similar misleading names in the .XXX sponsored top-level domain."
http://www.xbiz.com/news/135927

Future's so bright I gotta wear shades;)

Nice move from manwin.. :thumbsup

GetSCORECash 07-05-2011 09:49 AM

Wow, now we have to root for Manwin.

BareBacked 07-05-2011 09:49 AM

does this mean my pre registration of tube8.xxx did not get approved?






Joking people ;)

Caligari 07-05-2011 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GetSCORECash (Post 18261599)
Wow, now we have to root for Manwin.

as i said its kind of like rooting for Jason Or Freddy :1orglaugh

NewNick 07-05-2011 09:55 AM

“The misuse of our intellectual property will not be tolerated,”

Priceless.....



This one is even better :


Manwin said that it believes "that the onus is on ICM to honor and protect the rights of the adult content industry"


I bet you will all sleep easy now you have Manwin protecting your rights and intellectual property from those might find a loop hole to exploit !!!

Shey 07-05-2011 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 18261605)
as i said its kind of like rooting for Jason Or Freddy :1orglaugh

How about:

http://www.ourspacer.com/images/grap...t-got-real.jpg

DWB 07-05-2011 10:01 AM

I can only assume that they have inflated the prices for Manwin .XXX domains as they are doing to many other popular .com sites. "Extortion" is the word that comes to mind.

Allison 07-05-2011 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 18261619)

I bet you will all sleep easy now you have Manwin protecting your rights and intellectual property from those might find a loop hole to exploit !!!

Just wanted to bring that one statement to light on a more serious note.

Any decision to expect or wait for another company or individual to protect them or fight for them on any matter is a bad decision. If people feel strongly about something than come up with a way to stand behind that no matter what your situation is. Be creative, be smart.

So regarding .XXX, that's what Manwin did, but what will you do?

Caligari 07-05-2011 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allison (Post 18261649)
Just wanted to bring that one statement to light on a more serious note.

Any decision to expect or wait for another company or individual to protect them or fight for them on any matter is a bad decision. If people feel strongly about something than come up with a way to stand behind that no matter what your situation is. Be creative, be smart.

So regarding .XXX, that's what Manwin did, but what will you do?

eh, take the easy way out and settle;)

Rochard 07-05-2011 10:12 AM

This is the best part:

Quote:

Manwin alternatively asked ICM to register each of its 57 domain names as .XXX domains without any registration, processing or administrative fee or charge.
Manwin is stepping up and saying "We aren't paying this. It's extortion. Nice.

Kenny B! 07-05-2011 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allison (Post 18261649)
Just wanted to bring that one statement to light on a more serious note.

Any decision to expect or wait for another company or individual to protect them or fight for them on any matter is a bad decision. If people feel strongly about something than come up with a way to stand behind that no matter what your situation is. Be creative, be smart.

So regarding .XXX, that's what Manwin did, but what will you do?

It always helps when a larger company with the backing and legal council sets a course of action.

Homegrown did it with Acacia and it paid off for those who sat back and waited. This isn't the same situation at all as HG was fighting not only for itself but the industry as a whole.

For those without the resources of Manwin watching the outcome of their actions can help others down the road.

BFT3K 07-05-2011 10:25 AM

More like Douche vs Turd Sandwich...

http://mispeled.net/wp-content/uploa...uche-turd2.jpg

JFK 07-05-2011 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesGw (Post 18261593)
Shit's about to get real.

Interesting development :2 cents:

Wizzo 07-05-2011 11:00 AM

Should be interesting to see how this plays out... :pimp

RycEric 07-05-2011 11:09 AM

changing my sig...

?The misuse of our intellectual property will not be tolerated,? Thylmann said."

Tasty1 07-05-2011 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wizzo (Post 18261809)
Should be interesting to see how this plays out... :pimp

Maybe icmregistry paying Manwin to develop .xxx domains?
Icmregistry is looking for people that want to develop .xxx

u-Bob 07-05-2011 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 18261563)
c'mon... 57 domains and let's say 4 variations each - that makes about 300 domains in total - it's only $90,000 to block them forever. Manwin can't afford that? :winkwink:

The ICM registry itself announced a process by which trademark owners can prevent their trademarks from being registered as .xxx domains.

The ICM registry thereby acknowledged that trademark infringement is a possibility or even a threat.

The fact that the ICM Registry charges $200 or $300 (per domain) to prevent these violations from taking place could be used against them.

u-Bob 07-05-2011 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1 (Post 18261962)
Maybe icmregistry paying Manwin to develop .xxx domains?
Icmregistry is looking for people that want to develop .xxx

I don't think Manwin will spend their time building a .xxx brand that they'll have no control over and that'll forever be at the mercy of the ICM Registry.

Roald 07-05-2011 12:22 PM

So how do we get in on this? Or does this only work for the big dogs?

u-Bob 07-05-2011 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 18262065)
So how do we get in on this? Or does this only work for the big dogs?

Write the ICM a strongly worded letter telling them what your trademarks are and what you will do to them if they try to profit from violating your trademarks by selling yourtrademarks.xxx.

u-Bob 07-05-2011 12:29 PM

oh, and then you put out a press release telling the world that you did...

ShellyCrash 07-05-2011 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18261672)
This is the best part:

Quote:

Manwin alternatively asked ICM to register each of its 57 domain names as .XXX domains without any registration, processing or administrative fee or charge.
Manwin is stepping up and saying "We aren't paying this. It's extortion. Nice.


This part is key. They aren't straight up locking horns with the concept of the .xxx extension, they aren't going to bat against the possible harm the .xxx extension may have to the industry, they just don't want to pay the fees.

If ICM gives them the .xxx domains they want free of charge it's peaches and cream.

TheLegacy 07-05-2011 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shey (Post 18261620)

Ok that was funny :1orglaugh:thumbsup:1orglaugh

Tasty1 07-05-2011 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 18262065)
So how do we get in on this? Or does this only work for the big dogs?

Probabely icmregistry makes a deal with Manwin and there will be no statement made.
Than they can get the money form 1001 smaller webmasters.

Maybe unite and let everyone who wants to join pay 15 euro per domain?

Roald 07-05-2011 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 18262085)
Write the ICM a strongly worded letter telling them what your trademarks are and what you will do to them if they try to profit from violating your trademarks by selling yourtrademarks.xxx.

Well yeah but as you understand the bigger the dog the scarier the letter...

camsvipdotcom 07-05-2011 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1 (Post 18262219)

Maybe unite and let everyone who wants to join pay 15 euro per domain?

...and donate it to Manwin? :upsidedow

u-Bob 07-05-2011 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1 (Post 18262219)
Probabely icmregistry makes a deal with Manwin and there will be no statement made.
Than they can get the money form 1001 smaller webmasters.

Maybe unite and let everyone who wants to join pay 15 euro per domain?

the whole point is that you don't pay them any money at all.

Just let your lawyer send them a letter stating that the ICM will be violating your trademarks if they allow anyone to register yourtrademark.xxx. And then release a press release. That's basically what Manwin is doing.

Rochard 07-05-2011 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allison (Post 18261649)
Just wanted to bring that one statement to light on a more serious note.

Any decision to expect or wait for another company or individual to protect them or fight for them on any matter is a bad decision. If people feel strongly about something than come up with a way to stand behind that no matter what your situation is. Be creative, be smart.

So regarding .XXX, that's what Manwin did, but what will you do?

The problem is most companies cannot afford $90k to protect their domain names, no less take on ICM in court.

Roald 07-05-2011 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 18262244)
the whole point is that you don't pay them any money at all.

Just let your lawyer send them a letter stating that the ICM will be violating your trademarks if they allow anyone to register yourtrademark.xxx. And then release a press release. That's basically what Manwin is doing.

well yeah and I doubt the outcome will come out in a PR lol

u-Bob 07-05-2011 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 18262276)
well yeah and I doubt the outcome will come out in a PR lol

It's still a good way to make the ICM's life miserable :)

Tasty1 07-05-2011 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camsvipdotcom (Post 18262232)
...and donate it to Manwin? :upsidedow

Forgot to say, collect 15 euro per domain and hire a lawyer.

Barry-xlovecam 07-05-2011 02:52 PM

Nice demand but the course of legal action if the demand is not met?

Nasty 07-05-2011 03:01 PM

I could see how they would be against exploitation :helpme

baddog 07-05-2011 03:07 PM

Quote:

Manwin alternatively asked ICM to register each of its 57 domain names as .XXX domains without any registration, processing or administrative fee or charge.
I would not hold my breath. I could see ICM giving them the domains to give the impression of acceptance, but this will probably change things.

GetSCORECash 07-05-2011 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 18262397)
I would not hold my breath. I could see ICM giving them the domains to give the impression of acceptance, but this will probably change things.

So your thought is that this will be like Hustler and Acacia. ICM gives Manwin the domains for free and we all fall in line and pay up and accept .XXX

baddog 07-05-2011 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GetSCORECash (Post 18262407)
So your thought is that this will be like Hustler and Acacia. ICM gives Manwin the domains for free and we all fall in line and pay up and accept .XXX

Sorry, I do not recall what happened between Acacia and Hustler so I can not make that comparison. I do think it is entirely within the realm of possibility that ICM will give away some .XXX domains for development to give the impression of acceptance. I do not see them giving away domains that will never be developed.

I wouldn't.

SZNY 07-05-2011 04:03 PM

I'm not really convinced about .xxx and the benefits it could bring to us.

Personally I think it can bring more harm then benefits because this way its easier to filter and block .xxx traffic.

I'm wondering which companies currently support ICM and how ICM is funded.

It's crazy if you have around 100+ domains and later you have to register for each of them .xxx ones.

Quentin 07-05-2011 04:07 PM

You know how when matter and anti-matter collide, it (theoretically, anyway) causes a reaction that destroys an equal measure of matter and anti-matter?

Do you think the same thing would happen if someone registered AcaciaTechnologies.xxx?

I dunno... just putting it out there. ;-)

Domain Diva 07-05-2011 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 18262428)
Sorry, I do not recall what happened between Acacia and Hustler so I can not make that comparison. I do think it is entirely within the realm of possibility that ICM will give away some .XXX domains for development to give the impression of acceptance. I do not see them giving away domains that will never be developed.

I wouldn't.

I think the same.....ICM in time will give away a limited number of domains to the likes of Manwin ( it cant sell them anyway due to trademark issues) then Manwin and others stick big popular website properties on..this leaves the onlooker thinking Manwin and others support and accept .XXX

Nathan 07-05-2011 04:50 PM

We are not asking for the domains for free. This is in the letter in case they for some reason can not block it, we want them to block them by registering them. We wil not use the domains. They are a useless hassle.

baddog 07-05-2011 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 18262610)
We are not asking for the domains for free. This is in the letter in case they for some reason can not block it, we want them to block them by registering them. We wil not use the domains. They are a useless hassle.


<devil's advocate>

Quote:

Manwin alternatively asked ICM to register each of its 57 domain names as .XXX domains without any registration, processing or administrative fee or charge.
You are not asking for free domains, just free registration? Would that not set a dangerous precedent for them? If they do it for Manwin, wouldn't they have to do it for everyone? What are the odds of that happening?
</devil's advocate>

Caligari 07-05-2011 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 18262610)
They are a useless hassle.

I agree that .XXX domains are a useless hassle, simply blocking them and letting them rot would be the way to go.

Nathan 07-05-2011 05:18 PM

Baddog, the point is making sure nobody can misuse my trademarks.. If that causes an issue for icm, what the fuck do I care? Did they ask me before inventing .xxx?

Brujah 07-05-2011 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 18262665)
Baddog, the point is making sure nobody can misuse my trademarks.. If that causes an issue for icm, what the fuck do I care? Did they ask me before inventing .xxx?

All new TLDs go through these same issues during their sunrise periods. You apply for the names you're interested in to protect your marks, just like anyone else.


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