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brassmonkey 08-02-2011 07:09 AM

United States Gov.
 
one day this shit will end :disgust people will become tired.


Eleven-year-old aspiring veterinarian, Skylar Capo, sprang into action the second she learned that a baby woodpecker in her Dad's backyard was about to be eaten by the family cat.


"I've just always loved animals," said Skylar Capo. "I couldn't stand to watch it be eaten."


Skylar couldn't find the woodpecker's mother, so she brought it to her own mother, Alison Capo, who agreed to take it home.


"She was just going to take care of it for a day or two, make sure it was safe and uninjured, and then she was going to let it go," said Capo.


But on the drive home, the Capo family stopped at this Lowes and they brought the bird inside because of the heat. That's when they were confronted by a woman from the Department of Fish and Wildlife.


"She was really nervous. She was shaking. Then she pulled out a badge," said Capo.


The problem was that the woodpecker is a protected species under the Federal Migratory Bird Act. Therefore, it's illegal to take or transport a baby woodpecker. The Capo's say they had no idea.


"I was a little bit upset because I didn't want my mom to get in trouble," said Skylar.


So as soon as the Capo's got home, they opened the cage, the bird flew away, and they reported it to the Department of Fish and Wildlife.


"They said that's great, that's exactly what we want to see," said Capo. "We thought that we had done everything that we could possibly do."


But two weeks later, that same woman from the Department of Fish and Wildlife showed up at the Capo's front door. This time, Capo says she was accompanied by a state trooper. Alison Capo was cited for unlawfully taking a migratory bird and now she's been slapped with a $535 fine.


"I feel harassed and I feel angry," said Capo.


"Kids should be able to save a baby bird and not end up going home crying because their mom has to pay $535. I just think that's crazy," said Skylar.


9NEWS NOW has tried repeatedly to contact the Department of Fish and Wildlife. So far, they have not returned any of our calls. If convicted, Capo could face up to a year behind bars.

sperbonzo 08-02-2011 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 18326063)
one day this shit will end :disgust people will become tired.


Eleven-year-old aspiring veterinarian, Skylar Capo, sprang into action the second she learned that a baby woodpecker in her Dad's backyard was about to be eaten by the family cat.


"I've just always loved animals," said Skylar Capo. "I couldn't stand to watch it be eaten."


Skylar couldn't find the woodpecker's mother, so she brought it to her own mother, Alison Capo, who agreed to take it home.


"She was just going to take care of it for a day or two, make sure it was safe and uninjured, and then she was going to let it go," said Capo.


But on the drive home, the Capo family stopped at this Lowes and they brought the bird inside because of the heat. That's when they were confronted by a woman from the Department of Fish and Wildlife.


"She was really nervous. She was shaking. Then she pulled out a badge," said Capo.


The problem was that the woodpecker is a protected species under the Federal Migratory Bird Act. Therefore, it's illegal to take or transport a baby woodpecker. The Capo's say they had no idea.


"I was a little bit upset because I didn't want my mom to get in trouble," said Skylar.


So as soon as the Capo's got home, they opened the cage, the bird flew away, and they reported it to the Department of Fish and Wildlife.


"They said that's great, that's exactly what we want to see," said Capo. "We thought that we had done everything that we could possibly do."


But two weeks later, that same woman from the Department of Fish and Wildlife showed up at the Capo's front door. This time, Capo says she was accompanied by a state trooper. Alison Capo was cited for unlawfully taking a migratory bird and now she's been slapped with a $535 fine.


"I feel harassed and I feel angry," said Capo.


"Kids should be able to save a baby bird and not end up going home crying because their mom has to pay $535. I just think that's crazy," said Skylar.


9NEWS NOW has tried repeatedly to contact the Department of Fish and Wildlife. So far, they have not returned any of our calls. If convicted, Capo could face up to a year behind bars.

...And people all want to belittle the Tea Party types for trying to make the Federal Government less powerful.....



.:upsidedow

L-Pink 08-02-2011 07:20 AM

That's why I keep it to myself when I have barbecued bald eagle. Tastes like chicken by the way ......

brassmonkey 08-02-2011 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18326083)
That's why I keep it to myself when I have barbecued bald eagle. Tastes like chicken by the way ......

i went fishing i thought i was going to have to kill one. he was getting pretty close maybe he was hungry. their pretty big so i get my mossberg ready. :helpme

wehateporn 08-02-2011 07:41 AM

The US Gov don't care about the bird, they just want the $535

dyna mo 08-02-2011 07:48 AM

fuck woodpeckers.

we don't need no fucking woodpeckers.

protected species under the Federal Migratory Bird Act? fuck that.



and furthermore, ignorance of the law should be a valid defense.

i didn't know that, your honor.

oh, no worries then, carry on. and fuck woodpeckers.

potter 08-02-2011 07:51 AM

I love people that use edge scenarios like this to try and prove a point.

The .gov did nothing wrong in this case. Yes, it sucks for the family - but that's life. Ignorance is NOT an excuse for breaking the law. The government cannot simply start ignoring laws because the criminals didn't know about the law, and tried to make things right. Because then the whole system is fucked and there isn't any point to it all. Think of someone stealing something, they get caught, so the criminal says "oops, I didn't know" and returns the item. So now that's an excuse? Now that makes it ok? No, it doesn't. The law NEEDS to be black and white. You break it, you pay the price. You start creating a grey area for people like the above, and all that does is open up a grey area for serious criminals. Which is not acceptable.

potter 08-02-2011 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18326124)
fuck woodpeckers.

we don't need no fucking woodpeckers.

protected species under the Federal Migratory Bird Act? fuck that.



and furthermore, ignorance of the law should be a valid defense.

i didn't know that, your honor.

oh, no worries then, carry on. and fuck woodpeckers.

:1orglaugh:thumbsup

brassmonkey 08-02-2011 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by potter (Post 18326129)
I love people that use edge scenarios like this to try and prove a point.

The .gov did nothing wrong in this case. Yes, it sucks for the family - but that's life. Ignorance is NOT an excuse for breaking the law. The government cannot simply start ignoring laws because the criminals didn't know about the law, and tried to make things right. Because then the whole system is fucked and there isn't any point to it all. Think of someone stealing something, they get caught, so the criminal says "oops, I didn't know" and returns the item. So now that's an excuse? Now that makes it ok? No, it doesn't. The law NEEDS to be black and white. You break it, you pay the price. You start creating a grey area for people like the above, and all that does is open up a grey area for serious criminals. Which is not acceptable.

well funny how the goverment is blocking sb1070 knowing that there is a big problem :2 cents: grey area my ass.

Sly 08-02-2011 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by potter (Post 18326129)
I love people that use edge scenarios like this to try and prove a point.

The .gov did nothing wrong in this case. Yes, it sucks for the family - but that's life. Ignorance is NOT an excuse for breaking the law. The government cannot simply start ignoring laws because the criminals didn't know about the law, and tried to make things right. Because then the whole system is fucked and there isn't any point to it all. Think of someone stealing something, they get caught, so the criminal says "oops, I didn't know" and returns the item. So now that's an excuse? Now that makes it ok? No, it doesn't. The law NEEDS to be black and white. You break it, you pay the price. You start creating a grey area for people like the above, and all that does is open up a grey area for serious criminals. Which is not acceptable.

The law is not black and white. People like to claim that it is, but it's not.

You know something, you get off. The prosecutor has another agenda, you get off. You know the right person, you get off.

Going after someone that legitimately tried to do something good "in the name of the law" is an abuse of power and goes against any shred of common sense. There was no malice. No ill intent. And the "guilty party" resolved the situation when informed of the law. No harm was done.

dyna mo 08-02-2011 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18326142)
The law is not black and white. People like to claim that it is, but it's not.

You know something, you get off. The prosecutor has another agenda, you get off. You know the right person, you get off.

Going after someone that legitimately tried to do something good "in the name of the law" is an abuse of power and goes against any shred of common sense. There was no malice. No ill intent. And the "guilty party" resolved the situation when informed of the law. No harm was done.

that's not up to the bureaucrat issuing the citation. just like speeding. you get a citation, you are more than free to defend yourself in a court of law and a jury of your peers can decide.

that's the system as i understand it.

sperbonzo 08-02-2011 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18326155)
that's not up to the bureaucrat issuing the citation. just like speeding. you get a citation, you are more than free to defend yourself in a court of law and a jury of your peers can decide.

that's the system as i understand it.

The Prosecuters office has discretion as to what it pushes forward with and what it does not. Notice how the Federal Agents are refusing to enforce immigration laws?



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potter 08-02-2011 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 18326141)
well funny how the goverment is blocking sb1070 knowing that there is a big problem :2 cents: grey area my ass.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

96ukssob 08-02-2011 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18326083)
That's why I keep it to myself when I have barbecued bald eagle. Tastes like chicken by the way ......

Ben Franklin wanted the national bird to be the turkey :2 cents:

Phoenix 08-02-2011 08:09 AM

you know who is at fault here?

the fishing and game warden...she was not able to use any sort of reasonable (judgement/judgment) ? spelling....anyway, she handled the situation poorly i think. She should have recognized what was going on, and then tried to educate the little girl. She could have even commended her for trying to help the animal, i think its a girls guide badge for christs sake..lol

The law is there to defend the woodpeckers, not to empower some moron who was shaking mad at a rona store.

brassmonkey 08-02-2011 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 18326160)
The Prosecuters office has discretion as to what it pushes forward with and what it does not. Notice how the Federal Agents are refusing to enforce immigration laws?



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that's just the surface the judge also stated that the known illegals can still work.

brassmonkey 08-02-2011 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bossku69 (Post 18326168)
Ben Franklin wanted the national bird to be the turkey :2 cents:

wasn't he making a sandwich around that time?

dyna mo 08-02-2011 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 18326160)
The Prosecuters office has discretion as to what it pushes forward with and what it does not. Notice how the Federal Agents are refusing to enforce immigration laws?



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unemployment in mexico is ~4.5%, i'd be looking for mexico to be building a wall soon.

:upsidedow

sperbonzo 08-02-2011 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18326185)
unemployment in mexico is ~4.5%, i'd be looking for mexico to be building a wall soon.

:upsidedow

The Mexican Government is already very strict in it's laws and treatment of illegals in their country.




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Sly 08-02-2011 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18326155)
that's not up to the bureaucrat issuing the citation. just like speeding. you get a citation, you are more than free to defend yourself in a court of law and a jury of your peers can decide.

that's the system as i understand it.

Wow, did you really use speeding as your example? People get off for speeding and a wide range of infractions nonstop. Let's start a poll asking the women of GFY how often they've gotten out of speeding tickets or other traffic violations.

Citations, tickets, fines, violations... they don't go by the book. Maybe they should in order to be "fair." But pretending that they do is laughable. They are all based on the discretion of the issuer.

Rochard 08-02-2011 08:33 AM

So what the fuck is the problem here?

The people of the United States passed a law. Someone somewhere thought it was a good idea to have the woodpecker be a protected species. (When was the last time you saw a fucking woodpecker? Exactly) She violated the law by taking a protected species, putting it into a cage, and transporting it. She claims that she was "trying to save it" by removing it and protecting it from the cat, but that's irrelevant. She obviously cannot prove the cat was going to attack the woodpecker, and it sounds like a very fucking convenient excuse for breaking the law.

She broke a stupid fucking law and gets a stupid fucking fine, end of story.

dyna mo 08-02-2011 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18326193)
Wow, did you really use speeding as your example? People get off for speeding and a wide range of infractions nonstop. Let's start a poll asking the women of GFY how often they've gotten out of speeding tickets or other traffic violations.

Citations, tickets, fines, violations... they don't go by the book. Maybe they should in order to be "fair." But pretending that they do is laughable. They are all based on the discretion of the issuer.

thanks for proving my point. i never said anything about "going by the book".

what i did say is the system is set-up for a defendant to be tried in court. not at the point of the citation being issued. if the bureaucrat let's you go with a warning or decides to not issue a citation is not a violation of the system.

you can start any poll you wish.

Vendzilla 08-02-2011 08:43 AM

LMAO, Ignorance of the law is not an excuse, Fuck You

California had 725 new laws on the books for 2011

Virginia had 900

Do you know all these laws?

Shit, they pass so many laws in hopes of no one noticing I think

JamesGw 08-02-2011 08:44 AM

That game warden was on a power trip.

sperbonzo 08-02-2011 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 18326295)
LMAO, Ignorance of the law is not an excuse, Fuck You

California had 725 new laws on the books for 2011

Virginia had 900

Do you know all these laws?

Shit, they pass so many laws in hopes of no one noticing I think

+1


.:Oh crap

Sly 08-02-2011 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18326291)
thanks for proving my point. i never said anything about "going by the book".

what i did say is the system is set-up for a defendant to be tried in court. not at the point of the citation being issued. if the bureaucrat let's you go with a warning or decides to not issue a citation is not a violation of the system.

you can start any poll you wish.

So your point was that inconsistent law enforcement is okay so long that the accused can stand in front of a judge?

jollyperv 08-02-2011 08:55 AM

http://www.assjunky.com/ScreamCT.jpg

dyna mo 08-02-2011 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18326315)
So your point was that inconsistent law enforcement is okay so long that the accused can stand in front of a judge?

inconsistent law enforcement? i never said that. law enforcement consists of human beings. it's nonsense to hold them to a higher standard simply because they have a badge.

fact is, your comment is exactly how the system works. lindsay lohen gets a deal, i don't. i understand that and live my life accordingly.

brassmonkey 08-02-2011 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jollyperv (Post 18326339)

that was funny when he thought he killed it. :1orglaugh

astronaut x 08-02-2011 10:18 AM

Lets say your average american is person who works at wal mart, which is probably true by the way.

They cant even get a union in wal mart.

I dont think wal mart even has predator drones.


an uprising....LOL!!!

marketsmart 08-02-2011 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 18326295)
LMAO, Ignorance of the law is not an excuse, Fuck You

California had 725 new laws on the books for 2011

Virginia had 900

Do you know all these laws?

Shit, they pass so many laws in hopes of no one noticing I think

you're lazy... :2 cents:

as a good american, i make sure i learn every new law passed in every state...

i thought you were a good american too?

i guess not...

how do you feel about woman being allowed for sub duty?






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marketsmart 08-02-2011 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18326185)
unemployment in mexico is ~4.5%, i'd be looking for mexico to be building a wall soon.

:upsidedow

where did you get that figure?

please dont tell me you went to tiajuana last weekend and came to your figure based on all the kids selling gum or playing guitar for tips?




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dyna mo 08-02-2011 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 18326559)
where did you get that figure?

please dont tell me you went to tiajuana last weekend and came to your figure based on all the kids selling gum or playing guitar for tips?




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plenty of kids sellign chicklets so i know there is work there.

actually, the whole post was a knock-off of a leno joke from last nite, the set-up, everything.

:upsidedow

brassmonkey 08-02-2011 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18326185)
unemployment in mexico is ~4.5%, i'd be looking for mexico to be building a wall soon.

:upsidedow

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh $2/ hr jobs working in a factory making products for americans

dyna mo 08-02-2011 10:38 AM

i lolled.

TheSquealer 08-02-2011 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 18326579)
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh $2/ hr jobs working in a factory making products for americans

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh a country full of inept and corrupt fucks who can't make their own country function properly since its creation.

IllTestYourGirls 08-02-2011 11:42 AM

Get informed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jury_nullification

brassmonkey 08-02-2011 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 18326746)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh a country full of inept and corrupt fucks who can't make their own country function properly since its creation.

you could barely make gas and lunch money :helpme and with 15 kids omg

brassmonkey 08-02-2011 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 18326752)

http://www.pages.drexel.edu/~atb28/w...s/image003.jpg

IllTestYourGirls 08-02-2011 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 18326776)
picture

When a jury thinks the law is being wrongly applied or that the law itself is unjust they can still find the defendant not guilty.

kane 08-02-2011 12:05 PM

I think this is less a case of the government being overreaching and more a case of one person being an asshole.


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