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Herd 08-03-2011 04:17 PM

Morality in Media Calls for Federal Investigation of ICM Registry and All Involved in XXX Domain
 
WASHINGTON, Aug. 3, 2011 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- News that the first hard-core porn company is now in business on the XXX domain caused Morality in Media today to call for an investigation of ICM Registry, the company behind the XXX domain, for possible violations of federal laws prohibiting distribution of hard-core obscene Internet pornography.

"Further, Title 18 U. S. C. Section 2 prohibits aiding and abetting a federal crime and Title 18 U. S.C. 371 prohibits a conspiracy to commit a federal crime. The U.S. Attorney General, Eric Holder, should review the activities of ICM Registry in relation to these federal criminal laws immediately," said Trueman.

If Attorney General Holder won't investigate ICM Registry now, we will press the next attorney general to do so," said Trueman. "This issue will never go away for ICM Registry or for Internet pornographers who attempt to hide their criminal activities behind the .xxx domain."

Finally, a public organization coming out against ICM. Probably more will follow as we near .XXX launch date and afterwards. Hopefully much noise will be made on how the pornagraphic company ICM is trying to get trade mark holders into paying protection money, that have nothing to do with porn (their ridiculous greed will be our advantage). Also cant see most conservative senators in favor of mandate, to legitimize all pornography on the internet.

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...126711708.html

XPays 08-03-2011 04:33 PM

this press release is talking about harm caused by porn and is not something to hang your hat on if you are against .xxx and think this press release you posted is good for anybody

baddog 08-03-2011 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by XPays (Post 18329929)
this press release is talking about harm caused by porn and is not something to hang your hat on if you are against .xxx and think this press release you posted is good for anybody

No kidding. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Socks 08-03-2011 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 18329955)
No kidding. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Talk about not wearing a helmet to spite your face. :winkwink:

Caligari 08-03-2011 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Socks (Post 18329959)
Talk about not wearing a helmet to spite your face. :winkwink:

Talk about spitting in the wind which would come back on your face;)

Herd 08-03-2011 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays (Post 18329929)
this press release is talking about harm caused by porn and is not something to hang your hat on if you are against .xxx and think this press release you posted is good for anybody

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 18329955)
No kidding. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.

And the pro .XXX lobby comes out of the cracks like the cockaroaches they are. Didnt see that coming. :thumbsup

Barry-xlovecam 08-03-2011 05:29 PM

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"Title 18 United States Code Sections 1462 and 1465 prohibit distribution of hard-core, obscene Internet pornography. Yet, isn't that the purpose of the XXX domain?" asked Patrick A. Trueman, President of Morality in Media and former chief of the U.S. Department of Justice Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section, Criminal Division in Washington, D.C.

"Further, Title 18 U. S. C. Section 2 prohibits aiding and abetting a federal crime and Title 18 U. S.C. 371 prohibits a conspiracy to commit a federal crime. The U.S. Attorney General, Eric Holder, should review the activities of ICM Registry in relation to these federal criminal laws immediately," said Trueman.
Bullshit ...

§ 1462. Importation or transportation of obscene matters
Miller v. California, 413 U.S. 15 (1973)
Stanley v. Georgia, 394 U.S. 557 (1969)
Butler v. Michigan, 352 U. S. 380 (1957)
Total red herring.

baddog 08-03-2011 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Herd (Post 18330027)
And the pro .XXX lobby comes out of the cracks like the cockaroaches they are. Didnt see that coming. :thumbsup

Oh, you think they are only concentrating their efforts on .XXX domains? Seriously?

Herd 08-03-2011 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 18330046)
Oh, you think they are only concentrating their efforts on .XXX domains? Seriously?

That is their biggest threat and u know it. If .XXX is mandated it would be the first time pornography is legitimized in the United States. Which will be bad for them and bad for us. Why? Because a mandate will kick 80% of us (probably more) out of the business. .XXX is about a corporate take over of adult.

So if a bunch of religious weirdos want to stop the common .XXX cancer, then good! Who gives a shit what their reasons are.

marketsmart 08-03-2011 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 18329980)
Talk about spitting in the wind which would come back on your face;)

talk about pissing in a fan and trying to sell me on the fact that is is raining while trying to sell me a .xxx domain for a pissing site.... :thumbsup






.

baddog 08-03-2011 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Herd (Post 18330098)
That is their biggest threat and u know it.

What is whose biggest threat?

Herd 08-03-2011 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 18330117)
What is whose biggest threat?

Those ICM .XXX friends of yours. :winkwink:

baddog 08-03-2011 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Herd (Post 18330123)
Those ICM .XXX friends of yours. :winkwink:

Nice job in proving you are an idiot. Well done. Now, how about answering the question. What is ICM's biggest threat? Morality in Media?

Herd 08-03-2011 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 18330162)
Nice job in proving you are an idiot. Well done. Now, how about answering the question. What is ICM's biggest threat? Morality in Media?

Nice job trying to deflect, punk. Youve been sucking ICM's dick since u got back from the YNOT summit. Are u ever going to reveal your affilation with the .XXX camp already? Maybe after launch date? When is the launch date? They keep pushin it back.

baddog 08-03-2011 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Herd (Post 18330204)
Nice job trying to deflect, punk. Youve been sucking ICM's dick since u got back from the YNOT summit. Are u ever going to reveal your affilation with the .XXX camp already? Maybe after launch date? When is the launch date? They keep pushin it back.

You are proving your idiocy by leaps and bounds. :2 cents:

Herd 08-03-2011 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 18330218)
You are proving your idiocy by leaps and bounds. :2 cents:

Still wont answer, huh Baddog? Well when your ready to come out of the "ICM closet" u let us know. Till then just go back to doin what u do best with your .XXX masters. Go on now. :love2suck

baddog 08-03-2011 08:12 PM

Got to love n00bs that think they know shit.

JFK 08-03-2011 08:16 PM

who's pissing in the fan now ?:helpme

Brad Mitchell 08-03-2011 08:33 PM

Herd

As far as I know, I don't think I know you. Your comments in this thread are so absurd that I would be shocked to read anything stupider the whole rest of the month on GFY. Ok, maybe not too shocked. My 2 cents is this, 1st that afaik neither of the above mentioned people were ever by any stretch of the definition "behind" .XXX nor are they currently supportive or doing anything other than maybe accepting the current reality or things they can't effect change on. Next, the mere suggestion that this group who would like each and every one of us to be in prison because they contend we are currently breaking the law and engaging in criminal enterprise, racketeering and other unspeakable bad things is okay to get behind just because that also don't like .XXX.. come on, seriously? Ends doesn't justify the means if such success on their part were to invalidate our legitimate co-existence.

Brad

baddog 08-03-2011 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell (Post 18330296)
Herd

As far as I know, I don't think I know you. Your comments in this thread are so absurd that I would be shocked to read anything stupider the whole rest of the month on GFY. Ok, maybe not too shocked. My 2 cents is this, 1st that afaik neither of the above mentioned people were ever by any stretch of the definition "behind" .XXX nor are they currently supportive or doing anything other than maybe accepting the current reality or things they can't effect change on. Next, the mere suggestion that this group who would like each and every one of us to be in prison because they contend we are currently breaking the law and engaging in criminal enterprise, racketeering and other unspeakable bad things is okay to get behind just because that also don't like .XXX.. come on, seriously? Ends doesn't justify the means if such success on their part were to invalidate our legitimate co-existence.

Brad

I don't think he gets it. Probably just a surfer or a banned troll under a new name.

Herd 08-04-2011 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell (Post 18330296)
Herd

As far as I know, I don't think I know you. Your comments in this thread are so absurd that I would be shocked to read anything stupider the whole rest of the month on GFY. Ok, maybe not too shocked. My 2 cents is this, 1st that afaik neither of the above mentioned people were ever by any stretch of the definition "behind" .XXX nor are they currently supportive or doing anything other than maybe accepting the current reality or things they can't effect change on. Next, the mere suggestion that this group who would like each and every one of us to be in prison because they contend we are currently breaking the law and engaging in criminal enterprise, racketeering and other unspeakable bad things is okay to get behind just because that also don't like .XXX.. come on, seriously? Ends doesn't justify the means if such success on their part were to invalidate our legitimate co-existence.

Brad

The bullshit your spewing always has a nice tinge of class, Brad. Kinda like a polished turd. So no ones SHOCKED when u defend .XXX because U DO support it. You've openly admitted u will be hosting .XXX domains. So go sling your shit propaganda down the road, sir. U make me sick. :throwup

baddog 08-04-2011 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Herd (Post 18332010)
The bullshit your spewing always has a nice tinge of class, Brad. Kinda like a polished turd. So no ones SHOCKED when u defend .XXX because U DO support it. You've openly admitted u will be hosting .XXX domains. So go sling your shit propaganda down the road, sir. U make me sick. :throwup

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 18330304)
I don't think he gets it. Probably just a surfer or a banned troll under a new name.

Like I said.

Brad Mitchell 08-04-2011 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herd (Post 18332010)
The bullshit your spewing always has a nice tinge of class, Brad. Kinda like a polished turd. So no ones SHOCKED when u defend .XXX because U DO support it. You've openly admitted u will be hosting .XXX domains. So go sling your shit propaganda down the road, sir. U make me sick. :throwup

You are uninformed. Be accurate and watch your words.

Brad

MrCain 08-04-2011 03:54 PM

Baddog, why do you let those allegations fester when you can end them the easy way? You have already demonstrated against the .xxx domain. And you have already posted that you are against the .xxx domain and that you do not work for ICM registry. Simply repeating those statements you have already made would no doubt be a more effective way to end those allegations than what you are doing right now. Not everyone has read every post you have ever made on GFY so you cannot expect them to know your every opinion. One post, repeating what you have already said, would have done more good than accusing people of being n00bs.

Agent 488 08-04-2011 04:04 PM

pretty sad if that is your friend in that battle.

don't worry though, you have the "volunteer" and "disinterested commentator" holding up the fort.

Agent 488 08-04-2011 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell (Post 18332136)
You are uninformed. Be accurate and watch your words.

Brad

implying litigation all the time when someone doesn't agree with you doesn't create trust. :2 cents:

Agent 488 08-04-2011 04:10 PM

good to see the icm defender "volunteers" back though.

Freaky_Akula 08-04-2011 04:17 PM

Fuck dot xxx!

Brad Mitchell 08-04-2011 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 18332301)
implying litigation all the time when someone doesn't agree with you doesn't create trust. :2 cents:

There are so many hours in the day, what parting comment would be any more appropriate. He's already materially inaccurate stating that MojoHost does now or ever has supported .XXX. As an ISP we naturally route to all TLD's, no different than XO Communications, Level3 and every other network in the world.

The colorful commentary that he thinks I'm a "polished turd", that I should sling my "shit propaganda down the road" and that I make him "sick" is disappointing but ultimately doesn't matter. Everyone can decide such things for themselves.

Beyond that, I run a real business and am always effortful in publishing information when I see someone without all the facts or apparently a misunderstanding of them.

"Keyboard warriors" are a funny breed. I'd be just as happy to receive his call at the office or see him at a conference so that we could discuss the subject at hand with real conversation. Same goes for all of you - I'm happy to get anyone's call here.

Brad

Herd 08-04-2011 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrCain (Post 18332254)
Baddog, why do you let those allegations fester when you can end them the easy way? You have already demonstrated against the .xxx domain. And you have already posted that you are against the .xxx domain and that you do not work for ICM registry. Simply repeating those statements you have already made would no doubt be a more effective way to end those allegations than what you are doing right now. Not everyone has read every post you have ever made on GFY so you cannot expect them to know your every opinion. One post, repeating what you have already said, would have done more good than accusing people of being n00bs.

Because the man IS A FUCKING TROLL. For the past months, anytime a thread is started thats not pro .XXX he's at the head of the class to debunk any nay sayers. He's been trollin full time on this site defending .XXX at all costs. Why would someone do that if they are not in cahoots with them?? The answer is obvious.

Herd 08-04-2011 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell (Post 18332136)
You are uninformed. Be accurate and watch your words.

Brad



Quote:
Originally Posted by shade001
Let's cut to the chase. Will Mojohost host .xxx domains?

I'd like to have that on record.

Not singling you out, I'd like to see many adult related businesses address whether they will reject any .xxx related business or not.


Brad 05-07-2011, 08:16 PM "I'm never anything but honest. I found out a week ago that a few .XXX domains already resolve to my IP space from a different, unrelated but observant client. I'm not happy that the TLD exists due to what we can imagine to be various far-reaching implications. With that said, as a host and ISP I have a legal set of obligations and fiduciary responsibility to our customers. If I deviate from those, we can neither protect ourselves or our customers from various different liabilities. We don't get paid by the domain, we refer out as a white label at cost plus less than $1 for other TLD registrations for client convenience. Hosting is not like being a biller, pay site, free site, advertising agency, etc. We have to play by a finite set of rules just like Comcast, Level3, Akamai, etc. Exercising personal judgement about something of this nature which does not knowingly involve violation of copyright, trademark, obscenity or unsolicited e-mail would expose us to specific liability so far reaching that we would have an inability to also protect every other customer on an array of issues unrelated and outside of .XXX.

Before the pundits of GFY decide to misread my post and falsely determine that my answer is either related to a financial motivation or something else libelous.. I encourage them to become familiar with the DMCA. Also, to look and see what their own host public statement is.. or all the other companies who actually have a choice.

One more thought for tonight before I put a movie on with Melissa. If you were either one of a 9 year customer or a new customer of my company with anywhere the range of 1 to 1000 .COMs (etc) and YOU decided to buy a .XXX domain to protect a trademark or brand. Or, maybe you buy some key word phrase for a new idea that isn't well represented in any other TLD.. Would it not be a total inconvenience to have to find hosting elsewhere - just one more damn expense versus free? If you put yourself in those shoes or if you are one of those old-timers that I host, you can see that you will continue to be in good hands".

Your words Brad. Right up your ass! :thumbsup

baddog 08-04-2011 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herd (Post 18332364)
Because the man IS A FUCKING TROLL. For the past months, anytime a thread is started thats not pro .XXX he's at the head of the class to debunk any nay sayers. He's been trollin full time on this site defending .XXX at all costs. Why would someone do that if they are not in cahoots with them?? The answer is obvious.

When have I defended .XXX?

baddog 08-04-2011 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrCain (Post 18332254)
Baddog, why do you let those allegations fester when you can end them the easy way? You have already demonstrated against the .xxx domain. And you have already posted that you are against the .xxx domain and that you do not work for ICM registry. Simply repeating those statements you have already made would no doubt be a more effective way to end those allegations than what you are doing right now. Not everyone has read every post you have ever made on GFY so you cannot expect them to know your every opinion. One post, repeating what you have already said, would have done more good than accusing people of being n00bs.

He never asked, he made a proclamation. He is just trolling. There is not one intelligent person on this forum that thinks I am pro .XXX

will76 08-04-2011 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herd (Post 18329902)
WASHINGTON, Aug. 3, 2011 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- News that the first hard-core porn company is now in business on the XXX domain caused Morality in Media today to call for an investigation of ICM Registry, the company behind the XXX domain, for possible violations of federal laws prohibiting distribution of hard-core obscene Internet pornography.

"Further, Title 18 U. S. C. Section 2 prohibits aiding and abetting a federal crime and Title 18 U. S.C. 371 prohibits a conspiracy to commit a federal crime. The U.S. Attorney General, Eric Holder, should review the activities of ICM Registry in relation to these federal criminal laws immediately," said Trueman.

If Attorney General Holder won't investigate ICM Registry now, we will press the next attorney general to do so," said Trueman. "This issue will never go away for ICM Registry or for Internet pornographers who attempt to hide their criminal activities behind the .xxx domain."

Finally, a public organization coming out against ICM. Probably more will follow as we near .XXX launch date and afterwards. Hopefully much noise will be made on how the pornagraphic company ICM is trying to get trade mark holders into paying protection money, that have nothing to do with porn (their ridiculous greed will be our advantage). Also cant see most conservative senators in favor of mandate, to legitimize all pornography on the internet.

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...126711708.html

The religious nuts let me down. I had more *faith* in them that they would have organized and fought against .XXX BEFORE it was approved. They are way late to the game now.

Never heard a more out of touch with reality press release in my life.

BlackCrayon 08-05-2011 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrCain (Post 18332254)
Baddog, why do you let those allegations fester when you can end them the easy way? You have already demonstrated against the .xxx domain. And you have already posted that you are against the .xxx domain and that you do not work for ICM registry. Simply repeating those statements you have already made would no doubt be a more effective way to end those allegations than what you are doing right now. Not everyone has read every post you have ever made on GFY so you cannot expect them to know your every opinion. One post, repeating what you have already said, would have done more good than accusing people of being n00bs.

i like baddog but i fear joan may have been spending time convincing him of what a good idea .xxx now is.

DWB 08-05-2011 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell (Post 18332360)
Same goes for all of you - I'm happy to get anyone's call here.

Brad

Sweet! I'm gonna call you in a few... treat me like a cheap whore and tell me all the filthy things you will make me do. Just like you did last time.

spazlabz 08-05-2011 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 18332746)
The religious nuts let me down. I had more *faith* in them that they would have organized and fought against .XXX BEFORE it was approved. They are way late to the game now.

Never heard a more out of touch with reality press release in my life.

yeah they grumbled about it but did not do anything and was not horribly pro-active about it prior to it's approval.

I think the thing that a lot of people are missing is that I can call for a congressional investigation into .XXX if I wanted to. The only difference is if I 'demanded' it there would be no press coverage. This action means nothing, will accomplish nothing and only serves to line the pockets of Morality In Media's pockets with more donations :2 cents:

Paul Markham 08-05-2011 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herd (Post 18330098)
That is their biggest threat and u know it. If .XXX is mandated it would be the first time pornography is legitimized in the United States. Which will be bad for them and bad for us. Why? Because a mandate will kick 80% of us (probably more) out of the business. .XXX is about a corporate take over of adult.

Do you want it to stay a Ma & Pa business?

Your post makes little sense.

There are laws in the US that protect freedom of speech and everytime they tried to legislate porn they ran slap bang into these laws.

Stephen 08-05-2011 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 18332746)
The religious nuts let me down. I had more *faith* in them that they would have organized and fought against .XXX BEFORE it was approved. They are way late to the game now.

You do realize that MIM is single-handedly responsible for the bulk of anti-XXX comments sent to ICANN during the public comment period. They are far better organized than the adult biz and fought against .XXX much harder than did this "industry."

They have been in the game all along and are the biggest threat to domestic adult today :2 cents:

baddog 08-05-2011 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 18333118)
i like baddog but i fear joan may have been spending time convincing him of what a good idea .xxx now is.

Not once has she tried to convince me of that. She knows my stance and would not even bother.

Barry-xlovecam 08-05-2011 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 18333482)
You do realize that MIM is single-handedly responsible for the bulk of anti-XXX comments sent to ICANN during the public comment period. They are far better organized than the adult biz and fought against .XXX much harder than did this "industry."

They have been in the game all along and are the biggest threat to domestic adult today :2 cents:

You are missing the big picture.
We were speaking of their assertion of the legality of porn.
You are "preaching to the choir" on this.
We all know their tactics ...

If you had said "they are the biggest threat to the constitutional rights of porn publication" I would have agreed ...

But their legal position is that of morons ? proving out what they are ...

CyberHustler 12-12-2011 08:52 PM

I gotta take a shit, brb...


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