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Petra 08-05-2011 02:44 AM

Email Marketing/Newsletter Solutions
 
Our member mailing list has grown huge and it's starting to give us trouble with getting mail to Yahoo and some of the other free mail services.

It's painfully clear I can't use any of the mail solution companies since it's adult, so I'm now looking at email marketing software to help clean up the mailing list by getting bounced mails off of there and I'd love something with statistical tools.

My question to those of you who use external software to control your mailing lists and get your newsletters out is, which one do you like best and why?

Thanks!

CurrentlySober 08-05-2011 02:46 AM

sorry i cant help, but I just like poo...

A LOT...

Markul 08-05-2011 03:39 AM

My company has built a custom solution, by using the following and a bunch of custom coding ofc.

Ubuntu v. 10.04.2LTS
PostFix v.2.7.0
Apache v.2.2.14
BeansTalk v.1.4.6
PHP 5.3.2
MySQL v. 5.1.41
ProFTPg v.1.3.2C1
msmtp
cbpolicyd
Roadsend PHP 2.9
Perl CPAN Modul: Net::Server
Perl CPAN Modul: Net::CIDR
Perl CPAN Modul: Config::IniFiles
Perl CPAN Modul: Cache::FastMmap

It can scale to an infinite amount of servers (in theory lol). If you are enrolled in the MS JMRP program it will auto-remove people that flags the mails as spam. It will auto remove hardbounces pr. the parameter you set. It creates gold lists based on parameters set (for instance, all people that's clicked/opened a mail within the last 90 days).

And a lot more.

The interface is not awesome, not at all, stats are XML based so you can build whatever you want on it. But you can do split testing, send from multiple domains to multiple lists and other standard features.

But feel free to hit me up on ICQ if you want to talk more.

buildingfutures 08-05-2011 03:58 AM

We use Interspire Email Marketer and it's awesome.

Has all the statistics you need, bounce details, let's you integrate polls and stuff too, A/B testing, etc. etc. etc.

Dappz 08-05-2011 04:01 AM

this threads make me more interested with the topic :)

CurrentlySober 08-05-2011 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dappz (Post 18333069)
this threads make me more interested with the topic :)

the topic of poo?

Roald 08-05-2011 04:18 AM

Can someone flush that turd CS already, damn...

Barefootsies 08-05-2011 04:29 AM

Here ya go.

Deliverability Agent.

Keep in mind if you are mailing adult material the Michigan and Utah laws on it.

Child Protection Email Address Registries and Laws

Good luck champ.

wehateporn 08-05-2011 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 18333092)
Can someone flush that turd CS already, damn...

I'll spray the thread down with this to sort him out for a bit


u-Bob 08-05-2011 04:48 AM

ynot mail......?

FUCK J0EL 08-05-2011 06:30 AM

DUH...tell your bald friend Roald to hit me up.

We have the perfect solution for you guys.

CurrentlySober 08-05-2011 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 18333092)
Can someone flush that turd CS already, damn...

That Turd CS that is helping a buisness thread stay on page one, istead of falling into the obscurity of page 2???

Woot Woot!

I'm first in line to ban people who HELP like that !! :mad::mad::mad:

wehateporn 08-05-2011 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 18333273)
That Turd CS that is helping a buisness thread stay on page one, istead of falling into the obscurity of page 2???

Woot Woot!

I'm first in line to ban people who HELP like that !! :mad::mad::mad:

Some people would pay you for that, especially in the Buy and Sell forum

Roald 08-05-2011 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 18333273)
That Turd CS that is helping a buisness thread stay on page one, istead of falling into the obscurity of page 2???

Woot Woot!

I'm first in line to ban people who HELP like that !! :mad::mad::mad:

yeah right, check the posting times lol

Add a rule to your bot to reply to threads on page 2 only.
{if GFY page = 2 than bump thread with worthless reply}

Thanks :thumbsup

CurrentlySober 08-05-2011 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 18333281)
yeah right, check the posting times lol

Add a rule to your bot to reply to threads on page 2 only.
{if GFY page = 2 then bump thread with worthless reply}

Thanks :thumbsup

Roald - Straight up...

NO BOT

Honestly.... :thumbsup

CurrentlySober 08-05-2011 06:42 AM

Anyway.. When I hit 10,000 (and get turned BROWN) I will lay off my posting for a while...

Its not FAR away... So sorry, but bear with me...

All posts done by hand - By me - No bots...

Honest... :thumbsup

Petra 08-05-2011 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buildingfutures (Post 18333068)
We use Interspire Email Marketer and it's awesome.

Has all the statistics you need, bounce details, let's you integrate polls and stuff too, A/B testing, etc. etc. etc.

I've come across this one already and it's high on my list.

What do you like best about it? What's the feature that sold you guys on this particular program?

Quote:

Originally Posted by J0EL (Post 18333262)
DUH...tell your bald friend Roald to hit me up.

We have the perfect solution for you guys.

As I said in the OP, I'm now just looking at software to manage things myself. I think it'll just be easier in the long run. But thanks!

DoubleD 08-05-2011 07:10 AM

Hey Petra, yea there are 3rd party ESPs out there that will do the sending...to be honest everyone of the big ones have adult clients...they generally keep it hush hush a bit, but it happens and often enough...but they'll be interested in volumes, how old the list is in general, etc, etc

This is a topic I know a heck of a lot about...a growing list can sometimes be a double-edged sword depending on how you handle list hygiene - yahoo in particular can be dufficult, many large mainstream senders have the same issues with yahoo. Consider the idea of "engagement" - many of the big, free ISPs have moved to looking at this, how engaged are the receivers on your list in general - ie old, inactive emails, how engaged are they for your particular sending - open rates are often used here as click thru rates can be misleading when looking at sending reputation.

If you have the ability to remove folks that just never open or click your messages do it, or in the last email above the fold place a warning saying "hey you're about to miss out on all these awesome offers, click here or this will be the last you get, yadda, yadda, yadda - a re-engagement campaign.

Its actually good to run this way, do re-enagement campaigns on a regular bases (not too frequent)...old emails, even addys older than a year have the potential to become spam trap addys...

DoubleD 08-05-2011 07:18 AM

guess my big point was - dont just look at complaints a lower engagement, even if the addys are not complaining will get you bulked at yahoo, but I did see a mention of bounces..very important in determining if you should re-try, how long you should wait to re-try addy, etc

because of engagement...getting people to open that first email from you become even more critical...it can effect how other deployments to that addy are received - bulk vs. inbox - make sure that first verification mailer is compelling, especially subject line

whew, k im done...folks can hit me up offlist if they want to talk

Jman 08-05-2011 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoubleD (Post 18333342)
Hey Petra, yea there are 3rd party ESPs out there that will do the sending...to be honest everyone of the big ones have adult clients...they generally keep it hush hush a bit, but it happens and often enough...but they'll be interested in volumes, how old the list is in general, etc, etc

This is a topic I know a heck of a lot about...a growing list can sometimes be a double-edged sword depending on how you handle list hygiene - yahoo in particular can be dufficult, many large mainstream senders have the same issues with yahoo. Consider the idea of "engagement" - many of the big, free ISPs have moved to looking at this, how engaged are the receivers on your list in general - ie old, inactive emails, how engaged are they for your particular sending - open rates are often used here as click thru rates can be misleading when looking at sending reputation.

If you have the ability to remove folks that just never open or click your messages do it, or in the last email above the fold place a warning saying "hey you're about to miss out on all these awesome offers, click here or this will be the last you get, yadda, yadda, yadda - a re-engagement campaign.

Its actually good to run this way, do re-enagement campaigns on a regular bases (not too frequent)...old emails, even addys older than a year have the potential to become spam trap addys...

Well said.. :thumbsup

Kenny B! 08-05-2011 07:27 AM

I was going to say speak to Stinger or Joel but I see Joel was already here, so here's a bump for ya that has nothing to do with poo

LAJ 08-05-2011 09:08 AM

Hi Petra... our program http://www.ynotmail.com should have exactly what you need. I'll be in touch with you shortly...

LAJ 08-05-2011 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 18333133)
ynot mail......?

Thanks for the plug!

It's the obvious choice here...

CurrentlySober 08-05-2011 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18333278)
Some people would pay you for that, especially in the Buy and Sell forum

Absolutely! :thumbsup

However, if I were to do that, I'd lose my own 'Personal Moral High-ground'...

See, I am who I am, and I do what I do... Cause I am ME... NOT CAUSE I'm paid to do so...

Likewise, I use my own photo as my avatar, and have given plenty of true details of who I am, where I live, and what I do... (When Asked)

I will happily approach anyone, in person, at a show, face to face, and introduce myself. They can choose to punch me, or to shake my hand, but that is THERE Choice...

I am a GFY rarity ! I am here cause I WANT TO BE HERE, and I have been here, nearly EVERY DAY since 2002...

I have NO SIG... I sell nothing - I promote nothing - But those who know me... And, as I say, I DO attend shows, and I am happy to introduce myself...

Those people understand me, and my 'strange posting style'...

Anyhoo, thats all... Roll on XBIZ EU! WOOT WOOT!

CurrentlySober 08-05-2011 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18333278)
Some people would pay you for that, especially in the Buy and Sell forum

Your a UK guy, yeah?

Are YOU coming to the London show?

Not being funny - Just asking ?

Peace 08-05-2011 09:47 AM

did you try www.awebber.com

wehateporn 08-05-2011 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 18333672)
Your a UK guy, yeah?

Are YOU coming to the London show?

Not being funny - Just asking ?

You're part of the furniture around here CS :thumbsup

I would love to go, though I'm a family guy, very difficult to justify going. When I'm not working online (or posting here) I'm with them

Peace 08-05-2011 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 18333289)
Anyway.. When I hit 10,000 (and get turned BROWN) I will lay off my posting for a while...

Its not FAR away... So sorry, but bear with me...

All posts done by hand - By me - No bots...

Honest... :thumbsup

it is beautiful to have so much time...

CurrentlySober 08-05-2011 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peace (Post 18333707)
it is beautiful to have so much time...

It is... Its the joy of having set up stuff back in 1997... The money still turns up, even these days!

Petra 08-05-2011 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoubleD (Post 18333342)
Hey Petra, yea there are 3rd party ESPs out there that will do the sending...to be honest everyone of the big ones have adult clients...they generally keep it hush hush a bit, but it happens and often enough...but they'll be interested in volumes, how old the list is in general, etc, etc

This is a topic I know a heck of a lot about...a growing list can sometimes be a double-edged sword depending on how you handle list hygiene - yahoo in particular can be dufficult, many large mainstream senders have the same issues with yahoo. Consider the idea of "engagement" - many of the big, free ISPs have moved to looking at this, how engaged are the receivers on your list in general - ie old, inactive emails, how engaged are they for your particular sending - open rates are often used here as click thru rates can be misleading when looking at sending reputation.

If you have the ability to remove folks that just never open or click your messages do it, or in the last email above the fold place a warning saying "hey you're about to miss out on all these awesome offers, click here or this will be the last you get, yadda, yadda, yadda - a re-engagement campaign.

Its actually good to run this way, do re-enagement campaigns on a regular bases (not too frequent)...old emails, even addys older than a year have the potential to become spam trap addys...

This is great info and I may hit you up down the road to squeeze you for more tips. :thumbsup

CurrentlySober 08-05-2011 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18333706)
You're part of the furniture around here CS :thumbsup

I would love to go, though I'm a family guy, very difficult to justify going. When I'm not working online (or posting here) I'm with them

Believe it or not, I am a 'Family Guy' too... (But I have lost weight, dont wear green trousers, and am not called 'Peter'...)

However, in all seriousness, if you DO wanna attend the XBIZ show in london, hit me up!

I will happlily share (AND PAY) for a hotel room...

I cant however, unfortunately, promise...

That I wont SHIT THE BED !!! :helpme

ilikepoo AT ilikepoo dot COM

:thumbsup

wehateporn 08-05-2011 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 18333740)
Believe it or not, I am a 'Family Guy' too... (But I have lost weight, dont wear green trousers, and am not called 'Peter'...)

However, in all seriousness, if you DO wanna attend the XBIZ show in london, hit me up!

I will happlily share (AND PAY) for a hotel room...

I cant however, unfortunately, promise...

That I wont SHIT THE BED !!! :helpme

ilikepoo AT ilikepoo dot COM

:thumbsup

Your kind offer is appreciated CS :thumbsup

Rochard 08-05-2011 10:19 AM

YNOT is your mailing solution. We have reputation shield protection, greylist and blacklist resolution, blacklist resolution, dedicated server for your account, replacement IPs when needed, everything. We'll watch your emails go out, deal with problems and spam complaints, and help to make changes to make your mailings more effective.

I'll hit you up on ICQ.

In the mean time, check out YNOT Mail at http://www.ynotmail.com/

adultzone 08-05-2011 10:43 AM

SendBlaster 2 + VPS accounts = good to go!!


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