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Choker 08-11-2011 03:10 PM

AR-15 Owners. Now I understand.
 
I used to look down on AR-15's, thinking the guys who bought them were pussies who couldn't handle a real gun. Hell my kids outgrew 22's when they were 12. LOL. Nothing like the bang and stopping power of a 7.62 coming out the barrel of a quality made Russian AK. Tough and heavy, like a gun is supposed to be.

But then I bought a few AR15's last weekend at a gunshow. Holy fucking shit what a incredible weapon. Light as a feather, no recoil, and who cares if the rounds have half the power of a AK, hell you can carry 3 times as much ammo with you, and fire much more accurately than with a AK. AR-15 should be called Lego-15. I love the way everything is snap together on these guns. Change a barrel in 30 seconds? Wow. Convert it from a pistol to a rifle in 60 seconds. Fucking awesome. No wonder so many guys love these guns.

AaronM 08-11-2011 03:13 PM

I've been building them for years. LOVE them.

Rochard 08-11-2011 03:21 PM

About time you figured it out.

Goldmaniacs 08-11-2011 03:26 PM

try not cleaning it thoroughly for a little while and see what happens

proton 08-11-2011 03:34 PM

thinking about getting one

AaronM 08-11-2011 03:34 PM

Building 5 new ones right now.

AR-15 in 6.8 (not pictured)
3 AR-15's in 5.56 (two lower receivers in front of the white box and 3rd in the box) Barrels on order from Lilja & Hart
1 AR-10 in .308 (On top of the box) Barrel on order from Lilja

http://www.ampcontent.com/photos/ARLowers.jpg

AaronM 08-11-2011 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 18348456)
...But then I bought a few AR15's last weekend at a gunshow.


Mind if I ask what you bought?

Vendzilla 08-11-2011 03:58 PM

I love mine, where ever the first bullet goes, the next 15 will follow

Choker 08-11-2011 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 18348544)
Mind if I ask what you bought?

SW Sport and a clone of same and a clone of same with I think 6 inch barrel. Picked up two Mossberg 500s, a Saigi 12 guage and a AK also. The 6 inch barrel one I fucking love. It's light enough to shoot one handed as a pistol. It actually looks like 4 inches I'm not sure where you would start measuring it. Quite a bit of gas in your face from it but I got used to it. It freaked me out at first.

Dead 08-11-2011 05:36 PM

The AR is a wonderful gun to shoot, full auto and cheap! I like to stretch the range a bit with my old Enfield. 400 yards is still a challenge, my eyes just aren't what they used to be ;)

AaronM 08-11-2011 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 18348738)
SW Sport and a clone of same and a clone of same with I think 6 inch barrel. Picked up two Mossberg 500s, a Saigi 12 guage and a AK also. The 6 inch barrel one I fucking love. It's light enough to shoot one handed as a pistol. It actually looks like 4 inches I'm not sure where you would start measuring it. Quite a bit of gas in your face from it but I got used to it. It freaked me out at first.


Got a pic of the 6" AR? I'm guessing no stock, just a buffer tube?

FYI...and no offense meant....

An AR-15 with a 6" barrel is pretty useless if it's chambered in 5.56. With that short of a barrel, you lose a ton of velocity. You may want to consider changing it over to a 9mm. :2 cents:

http://ampcontent.com/videos/9mm16wmv.wmv

AaronM 08-11-2011 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dead (Post 18348753)
The AR is a wonderful gun to shoot, full auto and cheap! I like to stretch the range a bit with my old Enfield. 400 yards is still a challenge, my eyes just aren't what they used to be ;)


Um...AR-15's are not full auto.

dyna mo 08-11-2011 05:45 PM

choker, you get to walk out your backdoor and unload those eh?


nice purchase.

Pipecrew 08-11-2011 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 18348769)
Um...AR-15's are not full auto.

Law enforcement has em. And people with special permits don't they?

Choker 08-11-2011 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 18348764)
Got a pic of the 6" AR? I'm guessing no stock, just a buffer tube?

FYI...and no offense meant....

An AR-15 with a 6" barrel is pretty useless if it's chambered in 5.56. With that short of a barrel, you lose a ton of velocity. You may want to consider changing it over to a 9mm. :2 cents:

http://ampcontent.com/videos/9mm16wmv.wmv

They are all .223 yeah. I'm sure it do lose a lot of velocity. But it's small size and 45 round clip makes it the perfect home defense gun. And yeah no stock just a padded buffer tube.

Oh yeah I picked up one of those cheap 9mm carbines also. Very fun to shoot.

proton 08-11-2011 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pipecrew (Post 18348791)
Law enforcement has em. And people with special permits don't they?

The ArmaLite AR-15 is a selective fire assault rifle which was adopted by United States armed forces as the M16 rifle. Due to financial problems, ArmaLite sold the AR-15/M16 design to Colt.

The Colt AR-15 is the semi-automatic version of the M16 rifle, which was introduced by Colt for civilian sales in 1963.[8] The name "AR-15" is a Colt registered trademark, which refers only to the semi-automatic rifle.

The AR-15 is a lightweight, 5.56 mm, air-cooled, gas-operated, magazine-fed semi-automatic rifle, with a rotating bolt, actuated by direct impingement gas operation. It is manufactured with the extensive use of aluminum alloys and synthetic materials.

Choker 08-11-2011 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 18348764)
Got a pic of the 6" AR? I'm guessing no stock, just a buffer tube?

FYI...and no offense meant....

An AR-15 with a 6" barrel is pretty useless if it's chambered in 5.56. With that short of a barrel, you lose a ton of velocity. You may want to consider changing it over to a 9mm. :2 cents:

http://ampcontent.com/videos/9mm16wmv.wmv

Ill take pics some time this weekend. I did not know they made a 9mm conversion, I might look into that as these .223 rounds are not cheap. Question is do the conversion clips hold 30 rounds or more? I noticed the 22 conversion clips only held 10 rounds.

AaronM 08-11-2011 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pipecrew (Post 18348791)
Law enforcement has em. And people with special permits don't they?


No. They have M-16's or AR-15's that have been converted into an M-16. Like the one in the video I posted above.

AaronM 08-11-2011 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 18348807)
Ill take pics some time this weekend. I did not know they made a 9mm conversion, I might look into that as these .223 rounds are not cheap. Question is do the conversion clips hold 30 rounds or more? I noticed the 22 conversion clips only held 10 rounds.


There are a couple different options for that. The most popular option converts it to use Uzi mags.

V_RocKs 08-11-2011 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goldmaniacs (Post 18348496)
try not cleaning it thoroughly for a little while and see what happens

Standard issue for most America and European guns...

Dead 08-11-2011 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 18348769)
Um...AR-15's are not full auto.

My bad

AaronM 08-11-2011 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dead (Post 18348864)
My bad


I'm not sure what to say. It's almost as if you still think you're right.

Dead 08-11-2011 07:01 PM

To make this fair, I have never built one, was only told by the maker the gun I was shooting and thoroughly enjoyed it! I've handled guns with hell fire on them but the one I shot was definitely full auto.

Dead 08-11-2011 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 18348874)
I'm not sure what to say. It's almost as if you still think you're right.

Hey man, Im not pissin on ya, just posting what I fired and enjoyed! But you seem well versed in your skill! Fun none the less!!!!

AaronM 08-11-2011 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dead (Post 18348880)
To make this fair, I have never built one, was only told by the maker the gun I was shooting and thoroughly enjoyed it! I've handled guns with hell fire on them but the one I shot was definitely full auto.


And as the video title states, it's a "conversion" and not a standard AR-15. Physically speaking, any AR-15 can be converted into an M-16 and the lower receiver will still say AR-15, EA-15, T15, etc...

AaronM 08-11-2011 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dead (Post 18348883)
Hey man, Im not pissin on ya, just posting what I fired and enjoyed! But you seem well versed in your skill! Fun none the less!!!!


I understand what you are saying and to be perfectly honest, it's all semantics.

escorpio 08-11-2011 07:13 PM

What would Jesus shoot?

Dead 08-11-2011 07:18 PM

Jebus H Christ, Man I love to pull triggers.....Can we agree that an AR can be Full auto if the the one that makes it so ....makes it so! Fuck,I just wanted to post that I liked the AR MOD I shot, I didn't get all authentic and shit., should have gone to wiki and checked my fun

AaronM 08-11-2011 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by escorpio (Post 18348892)
What would Jesus shoot?


Other Mexicans.

AaronM 08-11-2011 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dead (Post 18348894)
Jebus H Christ, Man I love to pull triggers.....Can we agree that an AR can be Full auto if the the one that makes it so ....makes it so! Fuck,I just wanted to post that I liked the AR MOD I shot, I didn't get all authentic and shit., should have gone to wiki and checked my fun


Of course we can agree on that. As long as we agree that the conversion means it's no longer an AR-15. :winkwink:

Hey, even I get it wrong sometimes.

http://ampcontent.com/videos/BushmasterConversion.wmv

L-Pink 08-11-2011 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 18348896)
Other Mexicans.

That was so bad and I laughed anyway.


.

Pipecrew 08-11-2011 07:40 PM

Is that your basement? If so, bad ass setup. Would love to do something like that

Dead 08-11-2011 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 18348899)
Of course we can agree on that. As long as we agree that the conversion means it's no longer an AR-15. :winkwink:

Hey, even I get it wrong sometimes.

http://ampcontent.com/videos/BushmasterConversion.wmv

Agreed. But damn why does it have to be so specific...I like to blow shit up, dont care if it is an AR or a RPG I refuse to read the manual and will never check an ID:winkwink:
Nice work with the 9mod! what do you call that thing? AR...9...15.....:)

wdsguy 08-11-2011 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 18348511)
Building 5 new ones right now.

AR-15 in 6.8 (not pictured)
3 AR-15's in 5.56 (two lower receivers in front of the white box and 3rd in the box) Barrels on order from Lilja & Hart
1 AR-10 in .308 (On top of the box) Barrel on order from Lilja

http://www.ampcontent.com/photos/ARLowers.jpg

Have you worked with Spikes Tactical lowers?

grumpy 08-12-2011 05:00 AM

you dont need a gun unless you hunt.

cykoe6 08-12-2011 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grumpy (Post 18349384)
you dont need a gun unless you hunt.


Tell that to the shop owners in London.

xNetworx 08-12-2011 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grumpy (Post 18349384)
you dont need a gun unless you hunt.

I see your from Holland.

See some of us don't live in windmill filled candylands where almost everybody rides bicycles and is jolly.

We live in places where lots of scumbags have guns and will use one to kill.

Come visit the south side of Chicago sometime. Its just like Amsterdam, I swear.

ATF 08-12-2011 08:03 AM

Little off the ar-15 topic but i thought id throw this in there for the gun lovers.

my kel-tec sub 2000 40cal with glock grip and a"baby glock" 27 40cal handgun with a few 30 round magz..plus a glock made survival knife

all 30 rnd magz and all factory glock magz fit both guns ..both guns fit in the camelback backpack along with all the magz ,the glock knife and a shit load of ammo..home + SHTF defense at its finest :)

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5768/keltec.jpg


Sub 2000 Folded :

http://www.novaarmament.com/assets/i..._6407hires.jpg

opusx312 08-12-2011 08:31 AM

If you like ARs go look at spikestactical.com. I am having an 556 and 6.8 built from them very soon. I already have an AK built from them. They don't make them anymore and now they go for about $3k.

AaronM 08-12-2011 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdsguy (Post 18349090)
Have you worked with Spikes Tactical lowers?


Nope. Should I?

AaronM 08-12-2011 08:53 AM

For those who are interested...

Glock has recently built a 100 yard range at their facility in GA. Considering that Glock only makes handguns, it kinda makes you wonder why they need a 100 yard range.

Rumor has it that they are about to enter the AR-15 market.

PornoMonster 08-12-2011 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 18348807)
Ill take pics some time this weekend. I did not know they made a 9mm conversion, I might look into that as these .223 rounds are not cheap. Question is do the conversion clips hold 30 rounds or more? I noticed the 22 conversion clips only held 10 rounds.

American Eagle .223 ammo - at our lowest price ever!
http://www.cabelas.com/browse.cmd?ca...b= browse.cmd

Vendzilla 08-12-2011 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grumpy (Post 18349384)
you dont need a gun unless you hunt.

I hunt anyone that trys to break in my house

SallyRand 08-12-2011 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 18348456)
I used to look down on AR-15's, thinking the guys who bought them were pussies who couldn't handle a real gun. Hell my kids outgrew 22's when they were 12. LOL. Nothing like the bang and stopping power of a 7.62 coming out the barrel of a quality made Russian AK. Tough and heavy, like a gun is supposed to be.

But then I bought a few AR15's last weekend at a gunshow. Holy fucking shit what a incredible weapon. Light as a feather, no recoil, and who cares if the rounds have half the power of a AK, hell you can carry 3 times as much ammo with you, and fire much more accurately than with a AK. AR-15 should be called Lego-15. I love the way everything is snap together on these guns. Change a barrel in 30 seconds? Wow. Convert it from a pistol to a rifle in 60 seconds. Fucking awesome. No wonder so many guys love these guns.

Hey, Choker, I don't want to see you get into trouble, so you need to very carefully review The National Firarms Act:

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/nfa/

It is this way; if you build a rifle from an unspecified AR-15 receiver it IS a rifle and will ALWAYS be a rifle under ATF rules. If you put a top on the receiver with a barrel length of LESS than 16" you have constructed a "Short Barrelled Rifle" and comitted at least THREE felony violations under the act; namely:

(1) Construction without an approved Form One. (You ain't done this:

http://www.titleii.com/pdf/NewF1.pdf ).

(2) Possession of an Unregistered Firearm under The Act; namley. a Short Barrelled Rifle.

(3) Construction of a Fiream under The ACT without payment of the "Making Tax" of $200.00.

Each of these violations are what we call "Five And Tens"; five years and $10,000.00 EACH.

If you build an AR-15 PISTOL from an unspecefied receiver, it is a PISTOL forever and you cannot install a shoulder stock; See: "Short Barrelled Rifle".

It's like this, you can put a long top on a pistol but you cannot put a short top on a non-NFA rifle.

You cannot put a shoulder stock on a pistol.

Be very, very careful about the interernals that you use, as a double-hooked M-16 hammer used by mistake causes the rifle or pistol to be classified as an unregistered machine gun, even though the hammer alone will not cause the rifle or pistol to fire in any kind of full-auto mode.

You cannot put a vertical foregrip on a pistil; See: "Any Other Weapon" under the NFA.

Check out this guide to construction of AR-15 type rifles, it is accurate:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-15#L...ts_of_an_AR-15

And here:

http://www.ar15.com/content/legal/AR15-M16Parts/

No Federal registratioin is required for contruction of Non-NFA rifles and pistols but state or local laws may.

Best wishes for safe and LEGAL construction and shooting!

AaronM 08-12-2011 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SallyRand (Post 18349980)
Hey, Choker, I don't want to see you get into trouble, so you need to very carefully review The National Firarms Act:


Why would he need to review any of that?

He bought AR's that were already built and he has said nothing about modifying them in any way that would be an NFA issue. He's already stated that the 6" AR has no stock and is just a buffer tube so that classifies it as a pistol.

Nothing you posted is wrong but none of it concerns Choker either.

escorpio 08-12-2011 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 18348896)
Other Mexicans.

Jesus was a Jew, silly!

escorpio 08-12-2011 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grumpy (Post 18349384)
you dont need a gun unless you hunt.

What if some motherfucker at the club be lookin' at you all hard and shit?

SallyRand 08-12-2011 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 18350353)
Why would he need to review any of that?

He bought AR's that were already built and he has said nothing about modifying them in any way that would be an NFA issue. He's already stated that the 6" AR has no stock and is just a buffer tube so that classifies it as a pistol.

Nothing you posted is wrong but none of it concerns Choker either.

Choker wrote in the OP:

"Wow. Convert it from a pistol to a rifle in 60 seconds. Fucking awesome. No wonder so many guys love these guns."

Here:

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1033804

Post 1.

Make one tiny mistake and you are FUCKED!

You are a stupid motherfucker and a hater.

Choker even posted a pic of RECEIVERS, which he intended to COMPLETE as firearms!

You are a stupid dickwad!

It is very, very easy to make an unintended mistake with AR-15 type rifles or pistols; the kind of mistake that can land you in fucking PRISON, even if you did not intend to make the mistake, so I thought I'd try to help out Choker in this regard.

Of course I have no REAL knowledge of this sort of thing after having been a TITLE TWO MANUFACTURER FOR SOMETHING LIKE TWENTY FUCKING YEARS!

You can SUCK MY BALLS!

bushwacker 08-12-2011 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StripperCash (Post 18349636)
I see your from Holland.

See some of us don't live in windmill filled candylands where almost everybody rides bicycles and is jolly.

We live in places where lots of scumbags have guns and will use one to kill.

Come visit the south side of Chicago sometime. Its just like Amsterdam, I swear.


Well said. :thumbsup

drmadcat 08-12-2011 09:36 PM

its too hard to get a gun in perth


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