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drmadcat 08-12-2011 09:30 PM

Rioters evicted from homes
 
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1...ted-from-homes

British Prime Minister David Cameron backed a call Friday to withdraw welfare benefits from rioters, as a London council became the first to begin evicting a tenant whose son faced unrest charges.

Cameron said that people who "loot and pillage their own community" should no longer be allowed to live in social housing, reflecting the tough line he has taken over four nights of violence in London, Manchester and Birmingham.

"Obviously, that will mean they've got to be housed somewhere else -- they'll have to find housing in the private sector -- and that will be tougher for them, but they should have thought of that before they started burgling," he said.

As he spoke, Wandsworth Council in south London announced that it had served one of its housing tenants with an eviction notice, after the tenant's son was charged in court over disturbances in nearby Clapham Junction on Monday night.

The council was responding to a wave of public anger at the riots, which has seen more than 160,000 people sign an online petition calling for anyone convicted of criminal acts in the unrest to have their financial benefits taken away.

"If you live in a council house, you're getting a house at a discount from what other people have to pay and with that should come some responsibility," Cameron told BBC television.

"For too long we've taken a too-soft attitude towards people that loot and pillage their own community. If you do that you should lose your right to the sort of housing that you've had at subsidised rates."

Wandsworth council, which is controlled by councillors from Cameron's Conservative party, said the eviction notice had been served against one of its tenants, and a judge would now be asked to approve the request.

In a statement, it said the tenant had breached their tenancy agreement, which applies to everyone living in the household and prohibits them from a range of criminal and anti-social activities.

"There is no room on our estates for people who commit violent crimes, who show no consideration for their neighbours or harass, threaten, intimidate or cause disturbance to others," said council leader Ravi Govindia.

Lawmakers are set to debate in September whether people convicted over the riots should lose their welfare payments, under a new system in which online petitions attracting more than 100,000 signatures are automatically reviewed by a parliamentary committee.

The petition on the rioters reads: "No taxpayer should have to contribute to those who have destroyed property, stolen from their community and shown a disregard for the country that provides for them."

Spunky 08-12-2011 09:31 PM

Send the lot to Alaska or the South pole to live off the land

Agent 488 08-12-2011 09:37 PM

kick the kid who stole a cell phone out of his house. give the banker who fucked up the economy a few billion. sounds fair.

pornmasta 08-12-2011 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drmadcat (Post 18351969)
British Prime Minister David Cameron backed a call Friday to withdraw welfare benefits from rioters, as a London council became the first to begin evicting a tenant whose son faced unrest charges.

VERY bad idea
They are still poor and they need to live.
They won't suicide

pornmasta 08-12-2011 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drmadcat (Post 18351969)
who "loot and pillage their own community"


Rochard 08-12-2011 09:48 PM

So they aren't evicting people out of their homes. They are making it so that criminals are unable to receive welfare benefits.

L-Pink 08-12-2011 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18351993)
So they aren't evicting people out of their homes. They are making it so that criminals are unable to receive welfare benefits.

Yes, a much better explanation.

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NaughtyRob 08-12-2011 10:17 PM

Good, they deserve it.

pornmasta 08-12-2011 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaughtyRob (Post 18352052)
Good, they deserve it.

Yes, but they will also deserve their next penalties

marty 08-13-2011 12:57 AM

Behave like a dog, live like a dog... outside in the rain

BradBangs 08-13-2011 01:20 AM

Wish more countries would do that

Overload 08-13-2011 01:46 AM

hmm, i guess its the seed for just more anger ... now they will not only be poor but homeless ...

err, looting ... its the top 1% in every country that loots the most :(

Captain Kawaii 08-13-2011 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 18352069)
Yes, but they will also deserve their next penalties

Execute them now, save the penalty phase...Queen needs new panties.

xholly 08-13-2011 02:30 AM

it will lead to more unrest.

seeandsee 08-13-2011 02:58 AM

people controls starting, be fine or you are dead

Barry-xlovecam 08-13-2011 03:03 AM

British Prime Minister David Cameron forgot public floggings, stocks and that fine tradition of Her Majesty's Royal Navy history -- keelhauling ...

That will teach 'em ...

Coup 08-13-2011 03:14 AM

smash the system

FeelMyTube 08-13-2011 03:20 AM

Soundsgreat to me :thumbsup

crockett 08-13-2011 03:28 AM

Sounds like a good idea to me. Wish they would do this in the US. I have no issues at all about social programs for people that need it.

I'd much rather my taxes go to help others than into some CEO's back pocket, but I don't like that people with criminal convictions or more so re-pete offenders can get govt hand outs with no risk of losing it.

Geometrist 08-13-2011 12:15 PM

Rioters Riot , Homes are Homes

stinkyfingers 08-13-2011 12:20 PM

that should fix everything then ...

The Duck 08-13-2011 12:42 PM

Whoa, that move is going to make the shit hit the fan even more. It's like pouring gasoline on a fire.

candyflip 08-13-2011 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18351993)
...unable to receive welfare benefits.

Which in this case, was their parent's state subsidized housing.

margarita 08-13-2011 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Overload (Post 18352164)
hmm, i guess its the seed for just more anger ... now they will not only be poor but homeless ...

err, looting ... its the top 1% in every country that loots the most :(

If you are not dying of hunger it doesn't matter how poor are you. You don't have to be criminal, it's only your choice. You will find criminal multimillionaires and honest homeless guys. There's no need to advocate assholes.

thickcash_amo 08-13-2011 01:29 PM

Good for England....if only america would grow some balls like that

sperbonzo 08-13-2011 01:41 PM

Perhaps Britain can take a vote. Anyone that wants the rioters to keep on getting taxpayer paid housing can have them live in their homes... That way they can make sure that the rioters are taken care of nicely. Anyone?

redwhiteandblue 08-13-2011 02:22 PM

This is nothing new. If you live in a council property you have a tenancy agreement with the council. If you break the terms of the tenancy (for example by becoming engaged in criminal activity) you can be evicted, that has always been the case.

Socks 08-13-2011 02:38 PM

And so it begins.

If only people were smart enough to riot against something important, y'know.. something with... a cause!

DamianJ 08-13-2011 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18351993)
So they aren't evicting people out of their homes. They are making it so that criminals are unable to receive welfare benefits.

http://www.wandsworth.gov.uk/site/sc...p?newsID=10626

helterskelter808 08-13-2011 04:12 PM

Pointless dickwaving by Camoron.

I'm fairly sure it's impossible not to get welfare in the UK. Even if you don't qualify for a specific benefit you are entitled to what is called Income Support if you have no money coming in and no savings. Quite right too. I don't see how throwing families into the streets - in what is the 5th richest country in the world - achieves anything.

And while I'm sure it makes reactionary nutjobs feel warm inside to hear about 'rioters' being evicted, the slightly less bad ass small print is they will simply have to be rehoused elsewhere. So they become someone else's problem, perhaps in an otherwise nice area, and will attract all their old criminal friends over.

In fact it's long been the fully retarded policy in the UK of dealing with troublemaking scum to remove them from their slums and plant them into otherwise nice areas.

Perhaps the theory/delusion is that the pleasant environment will rub off on them and make them decent, functioning members of society. Of course it doesn't take Nostra-fucking-damus to predict what really happens, but if it doesn't affect politicians' lives, they don't give a fuck.

Internet Guy 08-13-2011 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 18351978)
kick the kid who stole a cell phone out of his house. give the banker who fucked up the economy a few billion. sounds fair.

quoted for the hilariously fucked up truth.

shimmy2 08-13-2011 06:17 PM

export them to canada

georgeyw 08-13-2011 06:53 PM

So the parents lose their housing because of their kid?

Coup 08-13-2011 07:02 PM

a chav nicked me celly, mate

adultchatpay 08-13-2011 08:45 PM

That's good!!!

brassmonkey 08-13-2011 10:54 PM

crime is going to go up. they'll figure it out my dad told me "If your not working your stealing"

DaddyHalbucks 08-13-2011 11:29 PM

It's hard to imagine the welfare state with such random instances of accountability.

GatorB 08-13-2011 11:44 PM

Well when peole are rioting against the government because it's acting too much like Big Brother naturally the way you quell that is to kick people out of their homes like Big Brother. You know it's like the parents that teach thier kids violence is not the answer by beating the shit of the them.

brassmonkey 08-14-2011 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 18353751)
the parents that teach thier kids violence is not the answer by beating the shit of the them.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Deputy Chief Command 08-14-2011 01:34 AM

right now it is just crazy , this one mother who is a charity worker is facing eviction .. together with her 8 year old daughter

her son is the one who is under arrest but not convicted ..! how can they threaten the innocent parents of a not yet convicted person like this ?

Black All Through 08-14-2011 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 18353525)
So the parents lose their housing because of their kid?

Thats right, when the 16 year old was out on the streets looting at 3am in the morning....
...good, throw them on the streets!!!

Jel 08-14-2011 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 18351978)
kick the kid who stole a cell phone out of his house. give the banker who fucked up the economy a few billion. sounds fair.

Such a shit argument, regardless of the comparison used. B has nothing to do with A.

Deputy Chief Command 08-14-2011 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black All Through (Post 18353813)
Thats right, when the 16 year old was out on the streets looting at 3am in the morning....
...good, throw them on the streets!!!

the kid was actually 18 and it was daytime when he got "caught"

DamianJ 08-14-2011 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel (Post 18353815)
Such a shit argument, regardless of the comparison used. B has nothing to do with A.

Apart from the fact that the both are encouraged to happen by the some society, obviously.

You're amusing.

Jel 08-14-2011 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18353843)
Apart from the fact that the both are encouraged to happen by the some society, obviously.

You're amusing.

Don't condescend me, cunt. Argue & debate all day long, but don't be such a condescending twat, it really does make people think less of you.

Back to this alleged 'encouragement' of both, even *if* that were the case, what do bankers ruining the economy have to do with the decision to evict families of looters? That's the same logic as the other idiots who whined about some bird (Ecclestone's daughter?) buying an $85m house while there is poverty in the world. B has fuck all to do with A; A should be looked at on it's own merits.

And in case you're wondering, no, I don't think the families of looters should be evicted.

DamianJ 08-14-2011 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel (Post 18353857)
Don't condescend me, cunt.

I think you mean: "don't *be condescending*". One cannot 'condescend' someone.

And really, calling me a cunt adds such immense weight to your argument and makes you sound really intelligent and clever.

Bless you for trying though, it's sweet how you try to keep up in the face of such adversity.

Jel 08-14-2011 03:27 AM

It was actually meant to say "don't condescend to me", but good work on calling me up on a grammatical error I made - that point has blown mine right out of the water, so congrads on that.

ps I didn't call you a cunt to make myself appear intelligent, nor clever. I called you a cunt, because that's exactly what you came across as.

HTH.

Jel 08-14-2011 03:29 AM

I almost forgot - what do bankers ruining the economy have to do with the decision to evict families of looters?

GregE 08-14-2011 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 18351978)
kick the kid who stole a cell phone out of his house. give the banker who fucked up the economy a few billion. sounds fair.

How about this?

We throw the bankers (and on this side of the pond, the Wall Street gang) who ruined the economy into jail.

and then...

Deny looters, muggers and arsonists any and all public assistance.

It's not like the two ideas are mutually exclusive or anything.

Think outside of those designated preselected boxes the politicians give you everybody.

pornmasta 08-14-2011 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 18352166)
Execute them now, save the penalty phase...Queen needs new panties.

Do you want a civil war ?


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