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signupdamnit 08-28-2011 06:08 PM

Why do 80% of my $100+ affiliate sales to F.F.N. get refunded within three days?
 
I've been noticing that most of my sales of $100 - $200 with FFN get refunded within 2 - 4 days after being made. Is there something magical about that 2-4 day window which I am not aware of? What's going on with that.

lagcam 08-28-2011 09:06 PM

Shouldn't the question be "Why am I still sending traffic to a site that "refunds" 80% of my $100 to $200 sign ups?"

porno jew 08-28-2011 09:19 PM

much of the affiliate biz is a fraud, my friend.

signupdamnit 08-28-2011 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lagcam (Post 18386310)
Shouldn't the question be "Why am I still sending traffic to a site that "refunds" 80% of my $100 to $200 sign ups?"

I know the $99.95 sales I send to ccbill affiliate programs rarely if ever charge back or are refunded. But I'll wait to see if someone has another logical explanation for this one. I would understand it more if they were refunded a month or a few weeks out but almost every single one which gets refunded always seems to have this occur a couple days after the initial join. It's amazing the timing unless there is some special reason for it.

Chosen 08-29-2011 12:36 AM

I'm not surprised...

leg4 08-29-2011 12:42 AM

much of the affiliate biz is a fraud, my friend.

V_RocKs 08-29-2011 03:23 AM

Send your sales to someone that doesn't have to do the bidding of their shareholders... If tomorrow Nasty Dollars went public I would send all of their traffic to the dark side (Manwin) because the only thing worse than greedy fucks is greedy fucking shareholders.

HOT/ICE 08-29-2011 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 18386129)
I've been noticing that most of my sales of $100 - $200 with FFN get refunded within 2 - 4 days after being made. Is there something magical about that 2-4 day window which I am not aware of? What's going on with that.

Whats your gpid I can take a look at your transactions to see if there is a pattern or solution, it could be a matter of the payments failing or partial credits ...


Jarrett Lollis
Affiliate Marketing Manager
FriendFinder Networks
Email: [email protected]
PH#: (408) 745-5478
ICQ - 632856608
Yahoo ? thebaysbest2006
AIM - thebaysbest2011

Vendot 08-29-2011 11:36 AM

August has been an unusually dismal sales month at FFN.... anyone else?

CamJack 08-29-2011 12:08 PM

Our $99 1 year memberships rarely get credited or charge backed.

IllTestYourGirls 08-29-2011 04:36 PM

Wow, strange to see this thread because this just happened to me as well.

What I noticed was this.

Original charge to surfer: 143.82
Amount credited back to surfer: 116.83

Leaves me with $0/pps ?

Any explanations?

HOT/ICE 08-29-2011 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 18388114)
Wow, strange to see this thread because this just happened to me as well.

What I noticed was this.

Original charge to surfer: 143.82
Amount credited back to surfer: 116.83

Leaves me with $0/pps ?

Any explanations?


Which leaves $26.99 (membership price) I suspect the member got a partial credit for ordering a year but only wanted a month...I'm under the impression this was the culprit in (signups) case also. What we could do is possibly retroactively credit you for the orders if applicable!!! If you guys want to truly get to the bottom of this my contact info will be here all day maybe even part of tomorrow, feel free to ask and i will look them up order by order if i have to just to prove there is no safer or sane place to send traffic period!!!


Jarrett Lollis
Affiliate Marketing Manager
FriendFinder Networks
Email: [email protected]
PH#: (408) 745-5478
ICQ - 632856608
Yahoo ? thebaysbest2006
AIM - thebaysbest2011

IllTestYourGirls 08-29-2011 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HOT/ICE (Post 18388134)
Which leaves $26.99 (membership price) I suspect the member got a partial credit for ordering a year but only wanted a month...I'm under the impression this was the culprit in (signups) case also. What we could do is possibly retroactively credit you for the orders if applicable!!! If you guys want to truly get to the bottom of this my contact info will be here all day maybe even part of tomorrow, feel free to ask and i will look them up order by order if i have to just to prove there is no safer or sane place to send traffic period!!!


Jarrett Lollis
Affiliate Marketing Manager
FriendFinder Networks
Email: [email protected]
PH#: (408) 745-5478
ICQ - 632856608
Yahoo ? thebaysbest2006
AIM - thebaysbest2011

Ill contact you tomorrow. But wouldn't it be best to have charge back to the affiliate? Most PPS already figure in the charge backs when they create a price point. Or why program it so that if there is a partial charge back it does not charge back the affiliate? Seems like a pretty easy fix to me. :2 cents:


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