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BFT3K 08-29-2011 11:02 AM

Weird Question...
 
Couldn't car manufacturers build in electrical outlets within their designs, which could run off of the engine?

At that point most people would have an emergency back-up generator in case of disasters, no?

Too easy?

baddog 08-29-2011 11:05 AM

How long do you think your car battery could power your home?

BFT3K 08-29-2011 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 18387406)
How long do you think your car battery could power your home?

I'm talking about your car doubling as a back-up generator, not battery power.

ottopottomouse 08-29-2011 11:11 AM

Too much risk of an idiot running their car parked in a garage attached to the house.

JamesGw 08-29-2011 11:17 AM

I think most cars use DC current. Some have AC outlets, but if you put too much draw on them then they'll blow the fuse. I'm not sure why this is the case.

Lace 08-29-2011 11:17 AM

Could always use a power inverter but they won't power much besides a laptop or small tv.

BFT3K 08-29-2011 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 18387423)
Too much risk of an idiot running their car parked in a garage attached to the house.

How is that different than ANY current gas powered generator?

JamesGw 08-29-2011 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lace (Post 18387443)
Could always use a power inverter but they won't power much besides a laptop or small tv.

Barely a laptop. We've blown so many fuses trying to charge laptops in our cars.

baddog 08-29-2011 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 18387449)
How is that different than ANY current gas powered generator?

200+ horsepower and 4 wheels?

stever 08-29-2011 11:32 AM

everyone could already be driving electric cars

the problem is the oil companies are GOD

they control everything and they wont allow that

leg4 08-29-2011 11:33 AM

It would be super easy to do... Some Toyota's do this.

BFT3K 08-29-2011 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stever (Post 18387470)
everyone could already be driving electric cars

the problem is the oil companies are GOD

they control everything and they wont allow that

This isn't even about electric cars. Gas powered back-up generators are what people use in emergencies. Why can't your current, gas powered, vehicle, double as an emergency back-up generator?

I'm sure this add-on feature would be desirable, and profitable to the manufacturers.

Who wouldn't want this feature on their car?

baddog 08-29-2011 11:38 AM

I wonder how many families would dies as a result of exhaust fumes in their homes.

BFT3K 08-29-2011 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leg4 (Post 18387472)
It would be super easy to do... Some Toyota's do this.

I would imagine it IS easy! Seems like a total no-brainer to me.

I would imagine Honda doing this soon too, as they make generators AND cars.

It's like chocolate and peanut butter!

BFT3K 08-29-2011 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 18387482)
I wonder how many families would dies as a result of exhaust fumes in their homes.

What the fuck does that mean?!

PEOPLE USE GAS POWERED GENERATORS NOW!

Hellllooooooo....

CurrentlySober 08-29-2011 11:40 AM

i cant afford a car... :(

StinkyPink 08-29-2011 11:59 AM

Ok, first... people with generators should run them outdoors or at the very least in a shed or garage not attached to the house and ventilated.

Secondly, and this is a tough one that nobody touched on in this thread, which surprises me but don't...

CARS RUN ON LARGE ENGINES!
Imagine the cost of fuel idling your car for 12 hours to power a 400w AC inverter that MIGHT keep your fridge running.

GENERATORS RUN ON SMALL ENGINES!
5-10HP!!! And they are capable of operating 800-1500w AC That can run your fridge a lamp a tv a computer a skillet....

BFT3K 08-29-2011 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StinkyPink (Post 18387536)
Ok, first... people with generators should run them outdoors or at the very least in a shed or garage not attached to the house and ventilated.

Secondly, and this is a tough one that nobody touched on in this thread, which surprises me but don't...

CARS RUN ON LARGE ENGINES!
Imagine the cost of fuel idling your car for 12 hours to power a 400w AC inverter that MIGHT keep your fridge running.

GENERATORS RUN ON SMALL ENGINES!
5-10HP!!! And they are capable of operating 800-1500w AC That can run your fridge a lamp a tv a computer a skillet....

Using a lot of gas is a downside I suppose, but otherwise I still don't see the problem.

You wind up with a more powerful generator... so what?

You can power more of your blacked out home with a bigger generator.

And why jump to the conclusion that the car has to be running INSIDE the house anyway? How about out in the yard, or in the driveway, or wherever? How about a few fucking extension cords?

Diomed 08-29-2011 12:06 PM

Strange you should mention that..

When Katrina hit.. I had a power converter in my Mercedes for my amps.. When everyone's cellphones died.. I had a eureka moment.. and bam.. fully charged cells. It was a life saver indeed.

Grapesoda 08-29-2011 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 18387397)
Couldn't car manufacturers build in electrical outlets within their designs, which could run off of the engine?

At that point most people would have an emergency back-up generator in case of disasters, no?

Too easy?

np, get an inverter... run stuff all the time like that..

ottopottomouse 08-29-2011 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 18387449)
How is that different than ANY current gas powered generator?

A car left running outside will be driven away by the first person who walks past attracted by the fact that the house is the only one for miles around with every light on. Then the car insurance company will laugh at you down the phone. So to stop it being nicked people will run it inside with the garage door shut.

L-Pink 08-29-2011 02:25 PM

Unless it's winter or you have a diesel I think heat will be a problem.

mountainmiester 08-29-2011 02:32 PM

I was once told by an electrical engineer that a car could be charged with a 2 HP motor meaning that you could run for hours on a couple gallons of gas if you had a small gas generator charging the battery cells while you drove or when you parked.

Not sure what else calculated into this however, this was from a NASA engineer at Ames which most of what he said was way over my head.

brandonstills 08-29-2011 04:06 PM

Probably not enough demand for them. But you can get attachments that you hook up to your cigarette lighter and/or battery and have AC power.

MaDalton 08-29-2011 04:12 PM

with some (more luxury) cars you can order 110/220V power outlets, but since it's coming from 12V it doesn't work for much more than charging cellphones or laptops. you can't keep your fridge running like that... ;)

ArsewithClass 08-29-2011 04:12 PM

Most cars, especially US motors are big 5ltr... Id rather buy a back up generator than work out costs of running my car just to run my laptop personally :(

raymor 08-29-2011 08:52 PM

I've run our office from my car when I used to live in a small town whew the power often went out during storms. A car burns roughly one gallon every three or four hours. Two gallons to get a day's work done isn't bad. If you wanted to go big with it, a high output alternator can put out 300 amps. A standard alternator will have no problem with a laptop and a few other things. Even a refrigerator isn't out of the question.

It has occurred to me that our office uses APC UPS systems, which run on 12V lead acid batteries. The car's system is designed to charge a 12V lead acid battery, so it's a perfect fit. Just run a wire from the car battery or "lighter" jack to the UPS battery. While you're at it, you could run another wire to the UPS from a solar panel.

The big UPS is the key. It'll run off wall power of course, or run things from it's internal battery, or convert other power sources like a car or solar.

Joshua G 08-29-2011 09:09 PM

Replies in this thread nailed it. People will run their cars in their garages & kill themselves. Plus using a car engine to do something a 10HP engine can do is grossly wasteful. The tree huggers would go apeshit.

marlboroack 08-29-2011 09:16 PM

Trust me, if i knew cars. I would have done this already. Then again if i knew batterys, i would build a battery that doesn't die. I think there is much more behind them both than you and i think or it would have happened already. :)

theking 08-29-2011 09:26 PM

A Toyota Tacoma comes with a 115V/400-watt deck-mounted power outlet.

DBS.US 08-29-2011 09:33 PM

Just install a simple 12 volt/120 volt power inverter some new cars have them and most RVs have them.
With one in a car you need to keep the motor running if your using it for something powerful like a power drill. My RV has one 5000 watt inverter running off four deep cell batteries so I can run it all night. I charge them with solar panels on the roof during the day.
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